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Again. Anger is just part of who I am and what makes me. You don't know me in person.

I am most defiantly not the person to piss off. I'm a Big lovable softy until you piss me off, then I'll destroy you in every way I can. Granted, i have a Long fuse and a Big Bomb.
*wonders if Rook can understand the other implications behind what he said*

Umm, right, the topic. And no offense, Rookhearst, just ignore me and my perverted mind.

Anger...I don't know. Anger to me seems to be a sidestep of hatred sometimes, and we all know it's easier to hate than to forgive. But then again...aghh.
Saltski Circe
*wonders if Rook can understand the other implications behind what he said*

Umm, right, the topic. And no offense, Rookhearst, just ignore me and my perverted mind.


imagine my face in a quizzical expression, then busting up in laughter once I got that...

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Anger...I don't know. Anger to me seems to be a sidestep of hatred sometimes, and we all know it's easier to hate than to forgive. But then again...aghh.


*Is such a geek, and is resisting urge to post sith code*
Rookherst[KOS]
Saltski Circe
*wonders if Rook can understand the other implications behind what he said*

Umm, right, the topic. And no offense, Rookhearst, just ignore me and my perverted mind.


imagine my face in a quizzical expression, then busting up in laughter once I got that...

lol!
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Anger...I don't know. Anger to me seems to be a sidestep of hatred sometimes, and we all know it's easier to hate than to forgive. But then again...aghh.


*Is such a geek, and is resisting urge to post sith code*

Don't resist that urge! I haven't heard it in a long while!

(Besides that, I can't really respond to your other post Rook. Like, all of the preachiness left. I was on a roll, but then my brain just fizzled.)
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Elf Lord Cheiwn Wrote:
No, you are not going to hell. Assuming Christianity to be valid, hell is not a valid concept, the word itself having been borrowed (read:stolen) from Hel, the Norse goddess of the underworld and not, as is popularly claimed, so much as appearing in the Hebrew and Greek text of the bible. The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary.

What usually translates as hell is Sheol, the Judaic grave or netherworld intermediary; Gehenna, named after a trash heap outside Jerusalem, Hades, a direct bite from Greek mythology; and Tartarus, another direct bite from Greek mythology, but taken to mean the abode of certain non-human creatures.

Sheol is relatively nondescript, Gehenna is specifically mentioned as a destination for trash (and some snakes, according to Yeshua ben Yosef), Hades is effectively undefined, though since the New Testament was written in Greek, it was likely used as a blanket reference to the afterlife or underworld. Note that Hades is the only destination for the dead in Greek mythology, and encompasses paradise and eternal torment. Tartarus, located below Hades, is home to the mythological creatures which have special punishment, such as Sisyphus, who, according to legend, is and will be rolling a big rock around for all eternity.

In short, every popular English biblical translation is a mistranslation. The worst that may reasonably be expected within the Christian system is a trip to Sheol, which everyone visits. The lake of fire, which spells death for those cast into it, may be a quick demise for false prophets as well, but it is meant for serious non-human offenders, such as angels, and is a fiery means to non-existence: that is, true death.

Moreover, it is my sincere doubt that Hel would care to manufacture a fiery torment if – expecting eternal flames – one did somehow manage to wind up in Helheim, the Norse abode of oath-breakers, people who died in their beds, and people who met their demise in ridiculous fashion. Too bad it’s eternal, however, and escape is not an option.

i love the fact that you said we borrowed the concept of hell from the norse
mythology when christianity had the concept of hell before the norse culture was even around

edit: hi rookherst
Rookherst[KOS]
imagine my face in a quizzical expression, then busting up in laughter once I got that...


What's sad is that I thought of more than one risque interpretation of that....

Rookherst[KOS]
*Is such a geek, and is resisting urge to post sith code*


Use your anger, your hatred!!! It is what shall make you powerful!!! *shot*

Um, topic: Yay gay rights.
My Interpretation of the Code is quite lengthy....if you are sure...
I'll edit it in this post.
Saltski Circe
Rookherst[KOS]
imagine my face in a quizzical expression, then busting up in laughter once I got that...


What's sad is that I thought of more than one risque interpretation of that....

Lmao!!!
Now you made me think of something more risque than what I thought originally!

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Rookherst[KOS]
*Is such a geek, and is resisting urge to post sith code*


Use your anger, your hatred!!! It is what shall make you powerful!!! *shot*

Muahahahahaha! twisted
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Um, topic: Yay gay rights.

Yay!
Homosexuality isn't condemned within Christendom! w00t!
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Elf Lord Cheiwn Wrote:
No, you are not going to hell. Assuming Christianity to be valid, hell is not a valid concept, the word itself having been borrowed (read:stolen) from Hel, the Norse goddess of the underworld and not, as is popularly claimed, so much as appearing in the Hebrew and Greek text of the bible. The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary.

What usually translates as hell is Sheol, the Judaic grave or netherworld intermediary; Gehenna, named after a trash heap outside Jerusalem, Hades, a direct bite from Greek mythology; and Tartarus, another direct bite from Greek mythology, but taken to mean the abode of certain non-human creatures.

Sheol is relatively nondescript, Gehenna is specifically mentioned as a destination for trash (and some snakes, according to Yeshua ben Yosef), Hades is effectively undefined, though since the New Testament was written in Greek, it was likely used as a blanket reference to the afterlife or underworld. Note that Hades is the only destination for the dead in Greek mythology, and encompasses paradise and eternal torment. Tartarus, located below Hades, is home to the mythological creatures which have special punishment, such as Sisyphus, who, according to legend, is and will be rolling a big rock around for all eternity.

In short, every popular English biblical translation is a mistranslation. The worst that may reasonably be expected within the Christian system is a trip to Sheol, which everyone visits. The lake of fire, which spells death for those cast into it, may be a quick demise for false prophets as well, but it is meant for serious non-human offenders, such as angels, and is a fiery means to non-existence: that is, true death.

Moreover, it is my sincere doubt that Hel would care to manufacture a fiery torment if – expecting eternal flames – one did somehow manage to wind up in Helheim, the Norse abode of oath-breakers, people who died in their beds, and people who met their demise in ridiculous fashion. Too bad it’s eternal, however, and escape is not an option.

i love the fact that you said we borrowed the concept of hell from the norse
mythology when christianity had the concept of hell before the norse culture was even around

edit: hi rookherst


The word Hell is English. The Bible was not translated into English until much later than the Norse were around.
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Hades is effectively undefined, though since the New Testament was written in Greek, it was likely used as a blanket reference to the afterlife or underworld. Note that Hades is the only destination for the dead in Greek mythology, and encompasses paradise and eternal torment. Tartarus, located below Hades, is home to the mythological creatures which have special punishment, such as Sisyphus, who, according to legend, is and will be rolling a big rock around for all eternity.

hades is defind. they have the isles of paradise, the fields of elysium, the fields of punishment (where sisyphus actually is), and theres another one i cant remember, people who decided to be reborn 7 times and got isles of the blest every time got to go here
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Quote:
Elf Lord Cheiwn Wrote:
No, you are not going to hell. Assuming Christianity to be valid, hell is not a valid concept, the word itself having been borrowed (read:stolen) from Hel, the Norse goddess of the underworld and not, as is popularly claimed, so much as appearing in the Hebrew and Greek text of the bible. The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary.

What usually translates as hell is Sheol, the Judaic grave or netherworld intermediary; Gehenna, named after a trash heap outside Jerusalem, Hades, a direct bite from Greek mythology; and Tartarus, another direct bite from Greek mythology, but taken to mean the abode of certain non-human creatures.

Sheol is relatively nondescript, Gehenna is specifically mentioned as a destination for trash (and some snakes, according to Yeshua ben Yosef), Hades is effectively undefined, though since the New Testament was written in Greek, it was likely used as a blanket reference to the afterlife or underworld. Note that Hades is the only destination for the dead in Greek mythology, and encompasses paradise and eternal torment. Tartarus, located below Hades, is home to the mythological creatures which have special punishment, such as Sisyphus, who, according to legend, is and will be rolling a big rock around for all eternity.

In short, every popular English biblical translation is a mistranslation. The worst that may reasonably be expected within the Christian system is a trip to Sheol, which everyone visits. The lake of fire, which spells death for those cast into it, may be a quick demise for false prophets as well, but it is meant for serious non-human offenders, such as angels, and is a fiery means to non-existence: that is, true death.

Moreover, it is my sincere doubt that Hel would care to manufacture a fiery torment if – expecting eternal flames – one did somehow manage to wind up in Helheim, the Norse abode of oath-breakers, people who died in their beds, and people who met their demise in ridiculous fashion. Too bad it’s eternal, however, and escape is not an option.

i love the fact that you said we borrowed the concept of hell from the norse
mythology when christianity had the concept of hell before the norse culture was even around

edit: hi rookherst


The word Hell is English. The Bible was not translated into English until much later than the Norse were around.
"The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary"
the word was borrowed yes but the concept thats laughable that you can say something like that,, whos words were you repeating again?
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"The concept of a fiery eternal torment is a wink and a nod to Dante's The Divine Comedy (more specifically, Inferno), a fictional story that is, for all ostensible purposes, a marvelously-woven political commentary"
the word was borrowed yes but the concept thats laughable that you can say something like that,, whos words were you repeating again?


I didn't say that. Elf Lord Chiewn has. And the current concept of hell borrows from many cultures, Norse included.
linaloki

The word Hell is English. The Bible was not translated into English until much later than the Norse were around.


rolleyes The Norse were SOOO after the Christians, seriously. rolleyes

Considering some of the Sutton Hoo Artifacts were dated around 300 BCE.
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...No one's explaining the fig tree to me... crying


God hates Figs, and Newtonian Physics.

Therefore: God hates Fig Newtons. Eat them not, for they are Confectionery Sin.

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