Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Rookherst[KOS]]

Marshal67

But then you have the Christian aspect of being inherently sinful. Can we have righteous anger when we are commanded not to anger?

I'm not sure I understand. I just contest all anger being Inherently "bad". Anger is a positive or Negative Emotion based on the ACTIONS taken as a result of the Emotion.

Constructive or Destructive.

[Armas_Valdamir]

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

SoundDoctrine

Rookherst[KOS]

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Now this I do disagree with. "Do not anger" is something said in the NT, and it would violate the law of Agape.

I disagree. It is Entirely possible to be angry and still love. My father Grows angry with me, but at no point does he stop loving me.

But what about Ephesians 4:31-32?
(I think that's the verse Marshal was referring to)
What do you make of that?

That doesn't say "Don't ever get angry..."

The way I read that, it seemed to state that "Do not take these emotions with out an equal portion of Forgiveness"

[No No Raja]

Armas_Valdamir

I'm not saying your a bad person and I do hope that you can find happiness in the path you've takin.

I thank you for the sentiment.

And while we may be on opposite sides, you have my respect for at least acknowledging the work that went into thread without getting bitchy. I am a fan of 1 Cor 13:4-8, which is agape love--and (ignoring the horrendous appeal to tradition, sorry guys I have to say this) considering it's used at weddings, I see no reason why it can't apply to gays as well.

[linaloki]

Armas_Valdamir

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

Do you have Biblical verses stating that sex should only be for procreation?

[Rookherst[KOS]]

Armas_Valdamir

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

Song of Solomon seems to disagree...from certain interpretations.

[Marshal67]

Rookherst[KOS]

SoundDoctrine

Rookherst[KOS]

Quote:

Now this I do disagree with. "Do not anger" is something said in the NT, and it would violate the law of Agape.

I disagree. It is Entirely possible to be angry and still love. My father Grows angry with me, but at no point does he stop loving me.

But what about Ephesians 4:31-32?
(I think that's the verse Marshal was referring to)
What do you make of that?

That doesn't say "Don't ever get angry..."

The way I read that, it seemed to state that "Do not take these emotions with out an equal portion of Forgiveness"

James 1:20

We have this too. The verse I am refering to, I am having trouble finding. I will post it when I do.

But still, there seems to be a lot more Biblical support for angre being bad than good.

[linaloki]

Marshal67

Rookherst[KOS]

SoundDoctrine

Rookherst[KOS]

Quote:

Now this I do disagree with. "Do not anger" is something said in the NT, and it would violate the law of Agape.

I disagree. It is Entirely possible to be angry and still love. My father Grows angry with me, but at no point does he stop loving me.

But what about Ephesians 4:31-32?
(I think that's the verse Marshal was referring to)
What do you make of that?

That doesn't say "Don't ever get angry..."

The way I read that, it seemed to state that "Do not take these emotions with out an equal portion of Forgiveness"

James 1:20

We have this too. The verse I am refering to, I am having trouble finding. I will post it when I do.

But still, there seems to be a lot more Biblical support for angre being bad than good.

But then, what of Christ's anger? I can see the temple being righteous anger, but the fig tree? I think he was genuinely pissed off.

[Armas_Valdamir]

linaloki

Armas_Valdamir

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

Do you have Biblical verses stating that sex should only be for procreation?

Damn your good I'd like to debate with you some time that it's not so serious and I have more facts, sorry I just stumbled here haven't got the arsonal out yet lol.

[Sound Doxa]

Rookherst[KOS]

SoundDoctrine

Rookherst[KOS]

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Now this I do disagree with. "Do not anger" is something said in the NT, and it would violate the law of Agape.

I disagree. It is Entirely possible to be angry and still love. My father Grows angry with me, but at no point does he stop loving me.

But what about Ephesians 4:31-32?
(I think that's the verse Marshal was referring to)
What do you make of that?

That doesn't say "Don't ever get angry..."

The way I read that, it seemed to state that "Do not take these emotions with out an equal portion of Forgiveness"

"Let all anger be put away from you"
"Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, (E)just as God in Christ also has forgiven [a]you."

The way I read it, it seemed to say, put away anger, and instead be tender-hearted. I think that "put away anger" is just another way of saying "do not anger", because when you put anger way, you're not being angry.

[Kuribittch]

Armas_Valdamir

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

Same goes for infertile heterosexuals. Point? None. God never commanded reproduction and nobody said homosexuals couldn't TRY to reproduce. Nobody's saying they'll succeed but it's the thought that counts remember.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

Marshal67

James 1:20

We have this too. The verse I am refering to, I am having trouble finding. I will post it when I do.

But still, there seems to be a lot more Biblical support for anger being bad than good.

James 1:19 Disagrees with you...at least about "Never ever get angry"

19 *This you know, my beloved brethren But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger;

*or "Know this, "

[Rookherst[KOS]]

SoundDoctrine

The way I read it, it seemed to say, put away anger, and instead be tender-hearted. I think that "put away anger" is just another way of saying "do not anger", because when you put anger way, you're not being angry.

and to put away anger, you would have to Have it first. So My reading goes some thing like thus:

When you DO get angry, remember not to be angry for anger's sake but to take up as much forgiveness as anger, if not more.

[linaloki]

Armas_Valdamir

linaloki

Armas_Valdamir

Also in Christianity Sex is almost always a way for pleasure but a way to reproduce, you shouldn't have sex for only pleasure and homosexual sex and only cause pleasue and never reproduction.

Do you have Biblical verses stating that sex should only be for procreation?

Damn your good I'd like to debate with you some time that it's not so serious and I have more facts, sorry I just stumbled here haven't got the arsonal out yet lol.

^_^ That's quite alright. I'm glad you admit that you are somewhat lacking in the sources for now, and I will gladly wait until you're prepared. Remember, this is as much of a teaching for me as it is for others. If you find something I've missed, then I'm the better for it.

[Sound Doxa]

Rookherst[KOS]

Marshal67

James 1:20

We have this too. The verse I am refering to, I am having trouble finding. I will post it when I do.

But still, there seems to be a lot more Biblical support for anger being bad than good.

James 1:19 Disagrees with you...at least about "Never ever get angry"

19 *This you know, my beloved brethren But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger;

*or "Know this, "

That doesn't disagree with Marshal's thought, it actually enforces it.
We should be slow to anger because the anger of man does not achieve the rigtheousness of God.
I think that "slow to anger", with the context of this passage, means, to try and not get angry.