Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[linaloki]

Buda Bless, if you are going to say anything, provide proof. Or at least know what it is you're talking about. This thread is about misconceptions of Christianity. Within this thread it is assumed that the Bible is the source of what is correct for Christianity.

This is not about if Christianity is right. It is about if Christianity is following the Bible in today's time. At least read the Bible before you argue about it, as you mentioned Babel and Leviticus in the same gust of wind, when the Tower of Babel's story was told in Genesis.

[xblustar]

As to your first point, about Adam and Eve being created on "two different days", it should be noted that these two chapters were written by two different authors, as implied by different names for God in the first two chapters of Genesis. Also, Adama and Eve had other children not listed in Genesis (particularly daughters, who are rarely listed in the Bible). Yes, as astonishing as it is, it appears that some sort of inter-marriage occurred at this point. As to that, I can not answer you, the time of Genesis is very different from the time of Christ, or the time now.

Your second point; true, most of the dietary laws and such are no longer followed by Christians.

Your third point is a bit off base. What other reason would there be for God to even consider destorying the city, if it was not drowning in sin?

For the forth point, yes you are correct, however it is a two part answer, and you failed to highlight: "Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another."

Also, your interpretating of 1 John 4:7-12 is creative, at best. If you look up the Greek words for love, you will see that the one used here refers to friendship. English has only one word for love.


I have a bit more; I'll add to this later.

[No No Raja]

xblustar

Also, your interpretating of 1 John 4:7-12 is creative, at best. If you look up the Greek words for love, you will see that the one used here refers to friendship. English has only one word for love.

Could you post the original Greek in Roman translations, point out the word in question, its translation, and the translating site you got it from?

[linaloki]

xblustar

As to your first point, about Adam and Eve being created on "two different days", it should be noted that these two chapters were written by two different authors, as implied by different names for God in the first two chapters of Genesis. Also, Adama and Eve had other children not listed in Genesis (particularly daughters, who are rarely listed in the Bible). Yes, as astonishing as it is, it appears that some sort of inter-marriage occurred at this point. As to that, I can not answer you, the time of Genesis is very different from the time of Christ, or the time now.

That still doesn't show who Cain feared. That doesn't show why there's a discrepancy in days. Even if it was written by two people, that doesn't explain why one said man, plural, was created after plants, and the other said man, singular, before.

xblustar

Your second point; true, most of the dietary laws and such are no longer followed by Christians.

And Christ made it so that those laws are no longer needed.

xblustar

Your third point is a bit off base. What other reason would there be for God to even consider destorying the city, if it was not drowning in sin?

It was drowning in sin. Just not homosexual sin. Inhospitality and rape are both sins.

xblustar

For the forth point, yes you are correct, however it is a two part answer, and you failed to highlight: "Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another."

Still lust there. Also, is it not true that Paul would have thought anything non-childbearing was unnatural due to his Jewish heritage, including masturbation? And it can be noted that this passage also probably refers to the mass public orgies that occured, which are quite unnatural.

xblustar

Also, your interpretating of 1 John 4:7-12 is creative, at best. If you look up the Greek words for love, you will see that the one used here refers to friendship. English has only one word for love.

The Greek word used there, to the best of my knowledge, is agape. Which is not the same as friendship, or philos, love. It says unconditional in the English translation, also suggesting agape.

[linaloki]

Should I perhaps provide the verses for my claims in the minor misconceptions post?

[sexyburritochan]

good job with the explination.

[sexyburritochan]

Trichotillomaniac

Rookherst[KOS]

Trichotillomaniac

Rookherst[KOS]

Trichotillomaniac

It's times like this when I wish that Gaia was very popular towards people, so they can know the truth within the Bible, and the misconceptions that many popular Christians have made.

Καλό θέμα. Υποστηρίζω αυτό το νήμα εκατό τοις εκατό. 3nodding

Oh oh....let me try: Good Subject. I support this thread [very much].

Hehe yes, that's right. smile

WEWT!!! My Greek doesn't suck. (it actually does)

Καλά, χρησιμοποιώ πραγματικά έναν μεταφραστή στο διαδίκτυο. sweatdrop Το κάνω για να βελτιώσω τη γνώση άλλων γλωσσών μου.

you can speak Greek?? what religion are you?

[Ender`s Game]

Well, I had not known some of those. I thank you for your information.

I'm starting to think joining this site was a good idea.

[linaloki]

porcelainxxlove

Trichotillomaniac

Rookherst[KOS]

Trichotillomaniac

Rookherst[KOS]

Trichotillomaniac

It's times like this when I wish that Gaia was very popular towards people, so they can know the truth within the Bible, and the misconceptions that many popular Christians have made.

Καλό θέμα. Υποστηρίζω αυτό το νήμα εκατό τοις εκατό. 3nodding

Oh oh....let me try: Good Subject. I support this thread [very much].

Hehe yes, that's right. smile

WEWT!!! My Greek doesn't suck. (it actually does)

Καλά, χρησιμοποιώ πραγματικά έναν μεταφραστή στο διαδίκτυο. sweatdrop Το κάνω για να βελτιώσω τη γνώση άλλων γλωσσών μου.

you can speak Greek?? what religion are you?

I don't think religion matters when it comes to the ability to comprehend a language... sweatdrop

[Rookherst[KOS]]

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The Greek word used there, to the best of my knowledge, is agape. Which is not the same as friendship, or philos, love. It says unconditional in the English translation, also suggesting agape.

I think the word Agape Is rather Conducive with your interpretation, loki. Seeing as Agape equates to something close to family love.

I have no idea what Xblustar is saying.....considering the word he's talking about is Philia.....which isn't found in the texts.