Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Ananel]

John Calvin

linaloki

(Note: You're in my thread! O_O)

I know. eek Isn't that an honor?

Honestly... had I not been consumed with another forum-based project at the time, I might have reared my ugly head prior to the 200s here. ^^

Ok... I have a copy of Jedediah's old phlegm. I will do him the small service of not ripping him to pieces. He and I parted on terse enough terms back a long time ago, and he had been forced to at least hear me out.

His only real response in the end was to demand my credentials, which I still feel was a desperate bid on his part to cause problems in the real world. However, the fact that I have thoroughly crushed the man and that he is not here at this time means that I should at least show him some small respect.

G'night until then.

[Marshal67]

Thank you again Ananel, I can't wait to read it. Honestly, I was at a loss when I began and got to the Hebrew, I knew some but not enough to argue with him on terms like yours.

[Ananel]

John Calvin

Well, I cannot say for certain, that Jedediah was a Calvinist. He and I had a debate on whether or not predestination was Biblical. He later did accept predestination.

As memory serves, he was a self-avowed seventh-day adventist. I was only able to clearly identify that post as being his from teh quotations of others.

[Mixolydia]

burning_eyes Do I see an Ananel? *falls to the floor in awe* heart heart

[Marshal67]

John Calvin

Well, I cannot say for certain, that Jedediah was a Calvinist. He and I had a debate on whether or not predestination was Biblical. He later did accept predestination.

More than I can bring myself to do sweatdrop

[Ananel]

Marshal67

Thank you again Ananel, I can't wait to read it. Honestly, I was at a loss when I began and got to the Hebrew, I knew some but not enough to argue with him on terms like yours.

We are certain this was Jedediah, yes? *is reasonably certain he remembers this old thing now*

[Marshal67]

Ananel

Marshal67

Thank you again Ananel, I can't wait to read it. Honestly, I was at a loss when I began and got to the Hebrew, I knew some but not enough to argue with him on terms like yours.

We are certain this was Jedediah, yes? *is reasonably certain he remembers this old thing now*

Yes very.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

Everyone loves Ananel, even those who don't like him. But we all know that they secretly love Ananel also. xd

[linaloki]

Ananel

linaloki

O_O

Welcome back, Ananel? Whatever the silly people say, I still appreciate your help on these matters... (Note: You're in my thread! O_O)

Linaloki... where the hell was this old thread? Jedediah hasn't been on Gaia since December of last year. Is this that hideous, misrepresenting bullshit I hammered the son of a b***h for doing in his journal an age and a half ago? I remember that, back some time ago, he decided to lie at my expence and misrepresent everything I believed in a journal article and refuse anyone the right to respond. I publicly called him out in a thread on that particular bit of lies and fallacies ages ago:

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10951603&

Jedediah and I had a long and storied past for a while. The man was a calvinist bordering on a 7th day adventist with an almost painful perspective. *sighs* I will hammer out a detailed response to his individual points once more, for clarity's sake, but realistically seeing someone having brought him back indicates that people have chosen to hold onto copies of his old arguments with me, pretending that my persistent refutations did not exist.

I was actually accused of sneaking around and finding his threads for a while (I was. He was defaming my character for about a year in '05-'06.).

But yeah... give me a few days. There's a bit to dissemble in this ancient bit of phlegm.

I have absolutely no idea where Jedediah suddenly popped up. Someone asked me if there was a rebuttal to him, I said I'd never heard of him, and here we be. Once I'm back at school and off this shitty dialup, I plan on actually reading his rebuttal, laughing, and destroying it to help my posts.

And, yeah, this thread's been here a little while. The original was made back in August, I think, so this has been up since... December or January...

John Calvin: You believe predestination? And that it's Biblical? If you could, would you be kind enough to submit to me some verses? I've been curious about this topic lately, especially since we had a huge church split near my home over Calvinism and since it effects, in my opinion, God's omniscience.

I think I'm going to bed for now, though... G'night, all.

[Ananel]

Marshal67

Ananel

Marshal67

Thank you again Ananel, I can't wait to read it. Honestly, I was at a loss when I began and got to the Hebrew, I knew some but not enough to argue with him on terms like yours.

We are certain this was Jedediah, yes? *is reasonably certain he remembers this old thing now*

Yes very.

Excuse me. I need to have a few 'polite' words with 'reformed baptist' before I go to sleep.

[Mixolydia]

John Calvin

Everyone loves Ananel, even those who don't like him. But we all know that they secretly love Ananel also. xd

sweatdrop

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

Marshal67

John Calvin

Well, I cannot say for certain, that Jedediah was a Calvinist. He and I had a debate on whether or not predestination was Biblical. He later did accept predestination.

More than I can bring myself to do sweatdrop

Bring yourself to do what?

[Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori]

I had the thesis quoted to me in a PM, in response to a PM debate involving Ananel's thesis. X_X So no, I'm not positively sure if Jedediah's been sighted.

[Marshal67]

Ananel

Marshal67

Ananel

Marshal67

Thank you again Ananel, I can't wait to read it. Honestly, I was at a loss when I began and got to the Hebrew, I knew some but not enough to argue with him on terms like yours.

We are certain this was Jedediah, yes? *is reasonably certain he remembers this old thing now*

Yes very.

Excuse me. I need to have a few 'polite' words with 'reformed baptist' before I go to sleep.

Have fun good sir.

@John: I have never been able to accept pre-destination. Something about it rubs me the wrong way.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

linaloki

John Calvin: You believe predestination? And that it's Biblical? If you could, would you be kind enough to submit to me some verses? I've been curious about this topic lately, especially since we had a huge church split near my home over Calvinism and since it effects, in my opinion, God's omniscience.

I've believed in predestination ever since I began to agree with monergism, the belief that by God's grace alone, and not by the will of man, is the sinner born again. It was a struggle with me, and I did, at one point in time, hate John Calvin and his teachings. I also believe that GOd is sovereign and providential over His creation. Now, that you have asked me to provide you some verses, I shall present them to you. Of course, there is also the Arminians who believe in predestination, but not in the same way as that of the Calvinist.

I will quote a few:

Job 14:5 "Man's days are determined; you have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed."

Psalm 139:16 "All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."

Proverbs 16:4 "The LORD works out everything for his own ends - even the wicked for a day of disaster."

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I chose you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Romans 8:29, 30 "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified."

Romans 9:10-13 "Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad - in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls - she was told, 'The older will serve the younger.' Just as it is written: 'Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.'"

Galatians 1:15, 16 "But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not consult any man."

Ephesians 1:4-6, 11 "For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will - to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves... In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will."