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you all make my head hurt.cant we all agree that mankind itself isnt perfect and it wont be for many years.(or forever)
not that it matters whos right or wrong if we die from some stpid old man that hit the button to shoot a nuclear bomb.

wow thats random rofl
by the way, can anyone tell me why homosexuals are still being hated(beaten,killed,teased,bullied,killing themselves<---umm okkkk anyway,disowned by parents and feared<-witch by itself is weird)and no one give a damn?
Atari Maxi Tariyama

The Bible says homosexuality is wrong,

Epic fail.
You lose all your marbles and have to go back to the little kids' playground.

Atari Maxi Tariyama
why such a long first post?

Ideally, so that people who fail so hard at Christianity might read and become enlightened.

Atari Maxi Tariyama

The guys translating knew what they were doing,

Prove that.
Then prove that what they were doing was not willful mistranslation.

Atari Maxi Tariyama
they had a VERY precise method

Prove this too.
Explain what "arsenokoites" means, too, if you know so much about it.

Atari Maxi Tariyama
and I SERIOUSLY doubt they made such a fundamental mistake.

Since when is your unsupported opinion a form of evidence?

Atari Maxi Tariyama

My conclusion: you're wrong.
Doesn't a conclusion usually require, oh, I don't know, some critical analysis?
Loki, you mention that the only unforgiveable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, but what exactly is that? *Feels stupid* redface
linaloki
Misconceptions on Homosexuality – It Is NOT A Sin


This post is dedicated to proving the popular passages as not anti-homosexual. For now, I only have the most common arguments, but more may appear. Here they are:

"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." - Insinuating Adam and Eve as the only humans on the Earth in the beginning, and all humans are children of Adam and Eve.


Ok this has been bugging me for a while now; If Adam and Eve wern't the only humans on Earth. And God created other perfect beings...then how come when Adam and Eve sinned he just didn't destroy them and leave the other perfect humans to cultivate the Earth like his original plan? Instead..the perfect humans disappeared...seeing that God created humans to live forever and be fruitful...it doesn't seem very right does it?

Thats why,...I think you took that text out of context..it doesn't mean that God created more humans..but he was forshadowing that he was going to create humans...why would god create men before he could create vegitation or animals for him to eat? It just doesnt make sense..

Sorry..you mentioned it..and I didn't want to create a new thread...over something so minor.
ElaborateDream
Thats why,...I think you took that text out of context..it doesn't mean that God created more humans..but he was forshadowing that he was going to create humans...why would god create men before he could create vegitation or animals for him to eat? It just doesnt make sense..
If God didn't make more humans, where did Cain find his wife?

"He didn't create humans, be was just about to." <-- makes no sense.

Maybe he didn't kill off Adam and Eve because he had other plans for them?
cutestuff16
by the way, can anyone tell me why homosexuals are still being hated(beaten,killed,teased,bullied,killing themselves<---umm okkkk anyway,disowned by parents and feared<-witch by itself is weird)and no one give a damn?


short and sad answer, is, it happens so often it is not news. It has become a boring statistic. Thats why only murders in quiet peacful towns go noticed, while the hundreds in the city end up as just a number in some database.
ElaborateDream
linaloki
Misconceptions on Homosexuality – It Is NOT A Sin


This post is dedicated to proving the popular passages as not anti-homosexual. For now, I only have the most common arguments, but more may appear. Here they are:

"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." - Insinuating Adam and Eve as the only humans on the Earth in the beginning, and all humans are children of Adam and Eve.


Ok this has been bugging me for a while now; If Adam and Eve wern't the only humans on Earth. And God created other perfect beings...then how come when Adam and Eve sinned he just didn't destroy them and leave the other perfect humans to cultivate the Earth like his original plan? Instead..the perfect humans disappeared...seeing that God created humans to live forever and be fruitful...it doesn't seem very right does it?

Thats why,...I think you took that text out of context..it doesn't mean that God created more humans..but he was forshadowing that he was going to create humans...why would god create men before he could create vegitation or animals for him to eat? It just doesnt make sense..

Sorry..you mentioned it..and I didn't want to create a new thread...over something so minor.


how about the bible does not make sense becuase it is a load of bunk. if adam and eve were the only humans, then their kids would all be brother and sister and all their kids would rise from incest, those kids would all be cousins or brother and sister. kind of sinful by bible standards
compudemon
ElaborateDream
linaloki
Misconceptions on Homosexuality – It Is NOT A Sin


This post is dedicated to proving the popular passages as not anti-homosexual. For now, I only have the most common arguments, but more may appear. Here they are:

"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." - Insinuating Adam and Eve as the only humans on the Earth in the beginning, and all humans are children of Adam and Eve.


Ok this has been bugging me for a while now; If Adam and Eve wern't the only humans on Earth. And God created other perfect beings...then how come when Adam and Eve sinned he just didn't destroy them and leave the other perfect humans to cultivate the Earth like his original plan? Instead..the perfect humans disappeared...seeing that God created humans to live forever and be fruitful...it doesn't seem very right does it?

Thats why,...I think you took that text out of context..it doesn't mean that God created more humans..but he was forshadowing that he was going to create humans...why would god create men before he could create vegitation or animals for him to eat? It just doesnt make sense..

Sorry..you mentioned it..and I didn't want to create a new thread...over something so minor.


how about the bible does not make sense becuase it is a load of bunk. if adam and eve were the only humans, then their kids would all be brother and sister and all their kids would rise from incest, those kids would all be cousins or brother and sister. kind of sinful by bible standards


Not if you establish the fact that the Mosaic Law wasn't created until several thousand years after Adam's birth. (Remember, the man supposedly lived 930 years, having kids the whole way. I want that stamina.) Before that, the only stated sin was disobeying God. God never said "I don't want you sleeping with your sister. It's icky.", but instead the command was something more like "See that tree? Don't touch it. Don't think about touching it. Don't sing about touching it. Don't even think about singing about touching it. Got me? Good."

So "sinful" in the book of Genesis? Not likely. Ohsnap.
Well, now I have something to refer to when I argue for Homsexual rights. Bravo.
Deltalord
It's not only a sin it's an abomination.


Did you read the first post?

If not, go and read it, and then kindly prove why it's wrong.

From your wording I assume you're referring to Leviticus; I would therefore like to point out that Levitican law does not apply to Christians and is no longer followed.
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The Indubitable Katie-Kat
Loki, you mention that the only unforgiveable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, but what exactly is that? *Feels stupid* redface


Matthew 12:31, NIV
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.


That's the verse. As to what it actually is:

Basically, calling the Holy Spirit names. Being irreverant, and, well, blaspheming against it. The Holy Spirit is God in the form of guiding endowment, so the Trinity theory believes. It's what's supposed to guide you to Christ, and guide you to make Christ-like decisions. Blaspheming against it is like saying it doesn't work. If you don't think it works, you don't get saved, you go to fiery lake. Best as I can tell. ^_^
Atari Maxi Tariyama

The Bible says homosexuality is wrong, why such a long first post?

The guys translating knew what they were doing, they had a VERY precise method and I SERIOUSLY doubt they made such a fundamental mistake.

My conclusion: you're wrong.


Prove that they knew what they were doing.

Prove they had a precise method.

Prove your doubts are valid.

My conclusion: you fail to shed doubt on anything.
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linaloki
Misconceptions on Homosexuality – It Is NOT A Sin


This post is dedicated to proving the popular passages as not anti-homosexual. For now, I only have the most common arguments, but more may appear. Here they are:

"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." - Insinuating Adam and Eve as the only humans on the Earth in the beginning, and all humans are children of Adam and Eve.


Ok this has been bugging me for a while now; If Adam and Eve wern't the only humans on Earth. And God created other perfect beings...then how come when Adam and Eve sinned he just didn't destroy them and leave the other perfect humans to cultivate the Earth like his original plan? Instead..the perfect humans disappeared...seeing that God created humans to live forever and be fruitful...it doesn't seem very right does it?


Adam and Eve? The perfect humans? Nothing with free will is perfect. If we take into account that Adam and Eve may have sinned PRIOR to Him creating the rest of humanity, then we can say that He decided to create the rest of humans like Adam and Eve: Already sinful.

What God did doesn't make sense to us humans. I mean, why create humans at all? Why not skip to the end, if He knows all and knows what's going to happen in the end? We can't comprehend it, but we can know what it says happened.

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