Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Isaac488]

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Isaac488

linaloki

Isaac488

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Isaac488

I don't think it matters how you personally believe something or not. God just says "don't do it" not "don't do it unless you are glorifying me doing it"

God sez don't have homogeysecks!

...really, if you're not even going to try to address anything I'm actually saying with some kind of valid refutation? Please try to at least prove something.

Commandment #7
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

I think that's pretty plain as day don't you.

...

Yeah, that quote works, too. >.<

You just like to over-complicate things ^^

So you don't wear polyester cotton blends either? Not that I disagree with the commandment. I'm just wondering why you defend something from Levitical law in accordance with Christ. Why not just use what he said? Which is also frowning upon adultery in the sense that one should not rend one's soul from another. And I never disagreed with that.

I didn't know that the Ten Commandments were part of Levitican Law nor that Christ said that the Commandments were null.

EDIT: And no, I don't wear polyester/cotton blends.

[xLady Tsukiyox]

Isaac488

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Isaac488

linaloki

Isaac488

Commandment #7
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

I think that's pretty plain as day don't you.

...

Yeah, that quote works, too. >.<

You just like to over-complicate things ^^

So you don't wear polyester cotton blends either? Not that I disagree with the commandment. I'm just wondering why you defend something from Levitical law in accordance with Christ. Why not just use what he said? Which is also frowning upon adultery in the sense that one should not rend one's soul from another. And I never disagreed with that.

I didn't know that the Ten Commandments were part of Levitican Law nor that Christ said that the Commandments were null.

EDIT: And no, I don't wear polyester/cotton blends.

I dunno. Acts and Galatains both state that we're no longer required to follow the Law. That and I do know Jews who do throw kvetch fits when a Christian tries to follow their law or take it out of context. Or both.

[Lexenos the Bard]

Christians aren't required to follow Mosiac Law, I think it was. Moses' law.

The Ten Commandments don't fall under Mosiac Law, but most of Leviticus does.

At least I think that's what Loki said, it's been a long time since I've read that. sweatdrop

[linaloki]

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

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linaloki

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

Yup. I think people tend to get caught up in labels they don't necessarily understand rather than to actually actively try to interpret the Law WITH Love... when irrational people get waylaid by isms, it is as though they ignore it.

[linaloki]

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linaloki

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

Yup. I think people tend to get caught up in labels they don't necessarily understand rather than to actually actively try to interpret the Law WITH Love... when irrational people get waylaid by isms, it is as though they ignore it.

But you have to realize that there are different types of love. So, eros is not a good idea.

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linaloki

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linaloki

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

Yup. I think people tend to get caught up in labels they don't necessarily understand rather than to actually actively try to interpret the Law WITH Love... when irrational people get waylaid by isms, it is as though they ignore it.

But you have to realize that there are different types of love. So, eros is not a good idea.

...it isn't? So how are we supposed to multiply. XDDD I guess we're developing lab techniques.

But seriously. You're getting caught up in labels again. Think about what I said and think about it in the context of Agape.

[linaloki]

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linaloki

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linaloki

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

Yup. I think people tend to get caught up in labels they don't necessarily understand rather than to actually actively try to interpret the Law WITH Love... when irrational people get waylaid by isms, it is as though they ignore it.

But you have to realize that there are different types of love. So, eros is not a good idea.

...it isn't? So how are we supposed to multiply. XDDD I guess we're developing lab techniques.

But seriously. You're getting caught up in labels again. Think about what I said and think about it in the context of Agape.

I'm just bringing it back to the earlier debate about whether sexual love counts as love as talked of in these verses, which it doesn't.

[Maiafay]

I just want to add the purity laws have everything to do with purity - not morality.

Priests had to be pure to enter the presence of God, hence no combinations of anything and the weird aversion to under-ripe fruit and not harvesting a field to its edge.

They also had to separate themselves from the other religions where orgies (where everyone does everyone) were common in rituals.

It irritates me when traditional Christians don't use the brain God gave them and contemplate the REASON behind passages and verses.

On a side note, I printed off some material for a gay friend to give to her mother (her mother is a hard core fire and brimstone type) and predictably, the woman denied the entire thing (was the Letter to Louise by Bruce W. Lowe) and called it the Devil's work.

Yes, because loving someone regardless of their sexuality is so damn sinful.

[ji-an]

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linaloki

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linaloki

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linaloki

The neat thing about the 10 Commandments is that they were reaffirmed by Christ via his two greatest commandments: Love God and love one another. And he specifically said to honor your father and mother on a couple of occasions. Romans specifically makes the link between the 2 and 10.

Any non-reaffirmed Mosaic Laws, which are detailed in Exodus (some), Leviticus, Numbers (some) and Deuteronomy, are not to be followed. The 10 were reaffirmed.

Yup. I think people tend to get caught up in labels they don't necessarily understand rather than to actually actively try to interpret the Law WITH Love... when irrational people get waylaid by isms, it is as though they ignore it.

But you have to realize that there are different types of love. So, eros is not a good idea.

...it isn't? So how are we supposed to multiply. XDDD I guess we're developing lab techniques.

But seriously. You're getting caught up in labels again. Think about what I said and think about it in the context of Agape.

I'm just bringing it back to the earlier debate about whether sexual love counts as love as talked of in these verses, which it doesn't.

Right, those verses talk about a kind of eros that does not fall within the bounds of agape. They are not, however, mutually exclusive... rather, I have often heard it said that sex is the prize for our having pushed through into this existence. It is the prize for death. Of course, that was from a rabbi, and this is a Christian thread, but Christianity draws upon the same truths.

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Maiafay

I just want to add the purity laws have everything to do with purity - not morality.

Priests had to be pure to enter the presence of God, hence no combinations of anything and the weird aversion to under-ripe fruit and not harvesting a field to its edge.

They also had to separate themselves from the other religions where orgies (where everyone does everyone) were common in rituals.

It irritates me when traditional Christians don't use the brain God gave them and contemplate the REASON behind passages and verses.

On a side note, I printed off some material for a gay friend to give to her mother (her mother is a hard core fire and brimstone type) and predictably, the woman denied the entire thing (was the Letter to Louise by Bruce W. Lowe) and called it the Devil's work.

Yes, because loving someone regardless of their sexuality is so damn sinful.

And not everyone is called to be an ascetic... obviously we're not all cut out for it. Certain people are, like Jesus, but most of us are just here to live. Here to invest what God gave us and to treat each other with love. So we don't have to be celibate or follow rules of cleanliness or recite om until it resonates or... whatever constitutes ascetic lifestyle in other ways.

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ji-an

Bible information or not, all people should be allowed equal treatment and equal rights regardless of race, sex and sexual orientation!
JOIN US!

Haha... I cannot join! My superiors would be unhappy. (I'm holding out hope that the Sentinel will realize she loves the Overseer, and vice versa, of course... but I'm a cheeseball.)

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And not everyone is called to be an ascetic... obviously we're not all cut out for it. Certain people are, like Jesus, but most of us are just here to live. Here to invest what God gave us and to treat each other with love. So we don't have to be celibate or follow rules of cleanliness or recite om until it resonates or... whatever constitutes ascetic lifestyle in other ways.

Forgive me for not reading further than three pages back right now; I'm not on a particularly limber internet connection, and it occasionally (read: roughly the same percentage as Jimmie Johnson's wrecks in races at Talladega that he started in the last five years) balks at loading Gaia. But I've got to ask. Loki said, somewhere several dozen pages ago, that the Catholic church currently holds the position (or maybe it was that he holds the position) that gay people are being called to celibacy by God. Do you agree with this position? If so, why? (Loki, you too.)

Isaac488

mluck24

thanks. Don't we all just love the newsboys?

but loki, this statement of yours, taken from the front page

"homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible"

completely contradicts the verses i have laid out.

plus you said you would only use the niv version. here are the 3 verses, 1 corinthians 6:9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

best not to offend any homosexuals then, mluck

Seriously? Did nobody even notice this awesomeness?