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Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more
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linaloki
mluck24
Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more

i think i may have misread that but oh well
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linaloki
mluck24
Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more

being a sexual pervert and being a pederasts is a sin, along with being a homosexual. a sexual pervert also is a homosexual, because it is twisting what is supposed to happen. Also, the old testament should NOT be discarded because of Jesus. Both versions are true and still hold virtue. As the time has rolled on, sure haircuts are not a sin. but there are stories like shadrach meshac and abednigo in the old testament showing that God is true. And there are many other stories and history is learned in the bible. Also there are virtues and morals learned in the old testament, although the extraneous ones, such as haircuts, may not be valid anymore.
mluck24
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linaloki
mluck24
Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more

being a sexual pervert and being a pederasts is a sin, along with being a homosexual. a sexual pervert also is a homosexual, because it is twisting what is supposed to happen. Also, the old testament should NOT be discarded because of Jesus. Both versions are true and still hold virtue. As the time has rolled on, sure haircuts are not a sin. but there are stories like shadrach meshac and abednigo in the old testament showing that God is true. And there are many other stories and history is learned in the bible. Also there are virtues and morals learned in the old testament, although the extraneous ones, such as haircuts, may not be valid anymore.

yes both versions are true and i never said disregard it the old testiment is there so we can understand the new testiment
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this has nothing to do with what we are talkin bout but some people get confused about it.
when jesus died, all the rules and regulations of the old testiment dont apply to us any more because thats part of the reason dieing for us the only "real sins" are the ones that the 10 comandments talk about. (thoes are only ten little rules not much if you ask me it shouldent be so hard to follow.
also people aperantly think that when you get saved your ticket to heavin is said and done and it dosnt matter what the heck you do afterwards but it does....oh yes it matters alot if you commit a sin and dont ask God to forgive you for it(and realy mean it) then your name is erased out of the lambs book of life untill you do.
another thing pertaning to that is grace. if a child to young to understand any thing about God or the rest of the trinity will go to heavin if he/she dies like a missscarrage or abortion the child gos to God but is saddly not givin the chance to live to its calling or what it was there for. oh and EVERY babby and human being has a purpose and is no accedent even if born from a rape victm. no God diddnt do that but the child is there and as soon as it was created God gave it purpose no matter what.
i know all this was really random but hey i had to let it out

this does not mean to ignore the old testiment you should still keep thoes in mind and follow them.
thanks. Don't we all just love the newsboys?

but loki, this statement of yours, taken from the front page

"homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible"

completely contradicts the verses i have laid out.

plus you said you would only use the niv version. here are the 3 verses, 1 corinthians 6:9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
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It goes a little something like this, mluck.

Loki: "Homsexuality's not a sin."
You: *insert verses you gave*
Loki: "That's a mistranslation."

Instead of repeating the verses you gave, go to the next step and prove it's not a mistranslation.
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It goes a little something like this, mluck.

Loki: "Homsexuality's not a sin."
You: *insert verses you gave*
Loki: "That's a mistranslation."

Instead of repeating the verses you gave, go to the next step and prove it's not a mistranslation.
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mluck24
thanks. Don't we all just love the newsboys?

but loki, this statement of yours, taken from the front page

"homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible"

completely contradicts the verses i have laid out.

plus you said you would only use the niv version. here are the 3 verses, 1 corinthians 6:9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


best not to offend any homosexuals then, mluck
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linaloki
mluck24
Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more
...you can't even spell "be" correctly. Is that apathy, ignorance, or lazyness?
mluck24
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linaloki
mluck24
Effiminate is a greek word meaning homosexual. Here are 27 different translations of this one verse stating homosexuality is a sin. From the New testament, not the "don't cut your hair" old testament in leviticus.


...effeminate is not even a Greek word. neutral

And strength in numbers doesn't mean you're correct... especially since some of the ones you have quoted don't say homosexuals. "Sexual pervert"? "Pederasts"? Seriously, did you read everything you quoted?

we need to b aware that when jesus died the old testiment does not apply to us n e more

being a sexual pervert and being a pederasts is a sin, along with being a homosexual. a sexual pervert also is a homosexual, because it is twisting what is supposed to happen. Also, the old testament should NOT be discarded because of Jesus. Both versions are true and still hold virtue. As the time has rolled on, sure haircuts are not a sin. but there are stories like shadrach meshac and abednigo in the old testament showing that God is true. And there are many other stories and history is learned in the bible. Also there are virtues and morals learned in the old testament, although the extraneous ones, such as haircuts, may not be valid anymore.


Why pick and choose? Wasn't it pointed out that "ALL of the laws need to be followed or NONE"?
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mluck24
thanks. Don't we all just love the newsboys?

but loki, this statement of yours, taken from the front page

"homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible"

completely contradicts the verses i have laid out.

plus you said you would only use the niv version. here are the 3 verses, 1 corinthians 6:9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


I said I'd use the NIV version for quotes. I'm not saying it's the end-all, be-all 100% most accurate version of the Bible. There's something called the original language that is, you know, original.

Try reading the entire front page where I talk about 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
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linaloki
mluck24
thanks. Don't we all just love the newsboys?

but loki, this statement of yours, taken from the front page

"homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible"

completely contradicts the verses i have laid out.

plus you said you would only use the niv version. here are the 3 verses, 1 corinthians 6:9-11


1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

What? You mean, actually read the first page? Blasphemy! Scandal! How dare you suggest they actually do something right for once! scream

Lulz, I kid.

Wow... I just realized I do nothing in this thread other than make fun of people. D: Doesn't that make me... *gulp* a troll?
I said I'd use the NIV version for quotes. I'm not saying it's the end-all, be-all 100% most accurate version of the Bible. There's something called the original language that is, you know, original.

Try reading the entire front page where I talk about 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
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Actually, any sex outside marriage is immoral. Fornication is immoral. The fact that it's forced sex makes it even worse. Rape shows no love for your neighbor, yes? Therefore it's breaking the commandment to love one another.


If you go back a few pages, I think you'll find I'm still quite on the fence about FORNICATION being immoral and why. In fact, I'm not even on the fence- I'm enjoying all the pleasures fornication/God has to offer. So don't just say "actually" without responding to all the points I had made up until then plz; at least others TRIED to put up quotes.


I thought Ty and loki DID put up quotes as to why it's immoral.

sex outside of marriage/with other people while married = adultery/fornication = sin


Then perhaps you missed that I have a differing interpretation of those quotes. I believe they were speaking only of fornication which did not follow the Law of Love. I believe there are types which certainly may and are holy and worship God well.


I don't think it matters how you personally believe something or not. God just says "don't do it" not "don't do it unless you are glorifying me doing it"


God sez don't have homogeysecks!

...really, if you're not even going to try to address anything I'm actually saying with some kind of valid refutation? Please try to at least prove something.

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