Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Yoru Kurosawa]

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Anakha the Silver

Actually, Loki covers MULTIPLE topics, NOT just homosexuality.

So he's going on longer than he needs to, to stretch a point.

Either way, no source on the OP's claim has been produced

All of my posts from this point forward will continue to point out that the OP has provided no source for his claims, until I am provided it.

Despair turns into pain; anger turns into hate

Funny. He's posted his sources for the Greek. Can you read Greek? We've got two people here who can read Greek, and they both say that the English translation is wrong.

As for education, you really don't have a source for that. I'm willing to bet a theology major knows more about theology than the average person. What's your major?

Revenge calls my name--spellbound by my rage

[Anakha the Silver]

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Yoru Kurosawa

No. I answered the question. Allow me to repost the statement:

IT'S CALLED BIAS! DUH!

Just like what you are filled with. Next!

You can't even define bias. Of course I'm biased. And so are you. Is that a bad thing?

In this case, when you refuse to open your eyes when a link was provided already, then, yeah.

But now I'm calling troll on you.

[Ace IV]

Anakha the Silver

I'm a moron who can't debate properly,

See this? It's kind of beneath ED-P, don't you think?

[Yuki Goes Rawr]

Ace IV

Anakha the Silver

<snip>

See this? It's kind of beneath ED-P, don't you think?

We're not in ED-P. And that's against the rules.

[Anakha the Silver]

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Anakha the Silver

I'm a moron who can't debate properly,

See this? It's kind of beneath ED-P, don't you think?

I'm not the one ignoring links, moron.

Admit it. You're ignoring whatever doesn't fit your preconceptions of what Mommy and Daddy and Preacher taught you.

[Anakha the Silver]

Yuki The Uke

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Anakha the Silver

<snip>

See this? It's kind of beneath ED-P, don't you think?

We're not in ED-P. And that's against the rules.

I'm pretty sure he's just a troll.

[Small Waves]

Ace IV

You just don't have an answer for it, is all. It's been over 2,000 years, and FINALLY now someone has looked up the Greek translation of The Bible (never could've been done before for the last 2k years) and found a revolution in Christian doctrine. Thank God for the internet. We need to call CNN.

Yo do know that arsenokoitai being translated as "homosexual offender" is something that occurred fairly recently and was criticized even back when it first appeared in Bible translations, right?

I'm not saying you didn't know that already, but rather that if you didn't, you would look like a huge idiot right now.

[Yoru Kurosawa]

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Yoru Kurosawa

No. I answered the question. Allow me to repost the statement:

IT'S CALLED BIAS! DUH!

Just like what you are filled with. Next!

You can't even define bias. Of course I'm biased. And so are you. Is that a bad thing?

Despair turns into pain; anger turns into hate

When it comes to translating the supposed word of God... gee, let me think...

NO s**t, SHERLOCK

I love that font. Thanks for helping me along the way to using it!

Oh, and I can define bias. I can't give you the dictionary definition, but a bias is a subjective view. Oh, need I define subjective too? Please tell me you know English.

Revenge calls my name--spellbound by my rage

[Yokuutsu]

Honorverse

Cat Eye

linaloki

1 John 4:7-12, NIV

Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

These verses, properly interpreted and read, not misquote or drug out of context, show that God is behind all forms of love, and that lust and prostitutional fornication are the sexual sins mentioned. The verses from 1 John specifically refer to unconditional love. It states that any love that is unconditional is from God. Homosexuals can love their partners unconditionally, therefore, can have unions blessed by God.

It says love. It says unconditional love. It doesn't say the type of love that includes sex thank you very much.

I'm a christian. I am not against gay or bis. I'm against people twisting words to their purposes. I'm also against causing their unions marriages, but I am not against them have the same rights legally.

And they can love unconditionally. But who says they are? No one loves unconditionally. Everyone wants something from everyone else. Even if it is only for them to be there to listen. If they weren't doing what they wanted from them-they wouldn't stick around.

And this includes me.

What does that mean? You are against Marriage, correct? Or are you also against Civil Union?

Well, which ever you chose, it's still going to conclude at the same key point: You are against gays having all the legal rights that heterosexuals currently have.

--Or I misinterpreted your statement. Are you, maybe, for Civil Union and/or Marriage?

For those who are not the traditional couple I am against it being called marriage, but they should have the same rights. I don't see how that's not homosexuals having the same rights.

I'm saying they should-tax s**t and all that. Just that they shouldn't call it marriage, but I'm not too big on marriage period.

[Anakha the Silver]

Cat Eye

Honorverse

Cat Eye

linaloki

1 John 4:7-12, NIV

Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

These verses, properly interpreted and read, not misquote or drug out of context, show that God is behind all forms of love, and that lust and prostitutional fornication are the sexual sins mentioned. The verses from 1 John specifically refer to unconditional love. It states that any love that is unconditional is from God. Homosexuals can love their partners unconditionally, therefore, can have unions blessed by God.

It says love. It says unconditional love. It doesn't say the type of love that includes sex thank you very much.

I'm a christian. I am not against gay or bis. I'm against people twisting words to their purposes. I'm also against causing their unions marriages, but I am not against them have the same rights legally.

And they can love unconditionally. But who says they are? No one loves unconditionally. Everyone wants something from everyone else. Even if it is only for them to be there to listen. If they weren't doing what they wanted from them-they wouldn't stick around.

And this includes me.

What does that mean? You are against Marriage, correct? Or are you also against Civil Union?

Well, which ever you chose, it's still going to conclude at the same key point: You are against gays having all the legal rights that heterosexuals currently have.

--Or I misinterpreted your statement. Are you, maybe, for Civil Union and/or Marriage?

For those who are not the traditional couple I am against it being called marriage, but they should have the same rights. I don't see how that's not homosexuals having the same rights.

I'm saying they should-tax s**t and all that. Just that they shouldn't call it marriage, but I'm not too big on marriage period.

"OMG, you're atheist! You shouldn't be able to call it marriage, either, because you don't believe the same as me and you're violating my beliefs!"

[Ace IV]

Anakha the Silver

In this case, when you refuse to open your eyes

Let me put it simply

You haven't read The Bible, nor have you read the original Greek for yourself. You are a ditto head, taking the OP's word as truth, without independent varification

Anakha the Silver

when a link was provided already, then, yeah.

Ok there's the site, now where's the translation?

[Yuki Goes Rawr]

Ace IV

You haven't read The Bible, nor have you read the original Greek for yourself. You are a ditto head, taking the OP's word as truth, without independent varification

And you havn't either.

Quote:

Ok there's the site, now where's the translation?

ἢ οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ἄδικοι θεοῦ βασιλείαν οὐ κληρονομήσουσιν; μὴ πλανᾶσθε· οὔτε πόρνοι οὔτε εἰδωλολάτραι οὔτε μοιχοὶ οὔτε μαλακοὶ οὔτε ἀρσενοκοῖται

ἢ ouk oidate themselves wronged god kingdom ou klironomisousin? Don planasthe · neither prostitutes nor paynim nor adulterer not soft arsenokoitai

It dosn't translate directly.

[Ace IV]

Yoru Kurosawa

When it comes to translating the supposed word of God... gee, let me think...

NO s**t, SHERLOCK

You don't know what bias means. You are biased against my argument. You're biased. So am I.

Yoru Kurosawa

Please tell me you know English.

Why do you ask such stupid questions?

[Yokuutsu]

Anakha the Silver

Cat Eye

Honorverse

Cat Eye

linaloki

1 John 4:7-12, NIV

Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

These verses, properly interpreted and read, not misquote or drug out of context, show that God is behind all forms of love, and that lust and prostitutional fornication are the sexual sins mentioned. The verses from 1 John specifically refer to unconditional love. It states that any love that is unconditional is from God. Homosexuals can love their partners unconditionally, therefore, can have unions blessed by God.

It says love. It says unconditional love. It doesn't say the type of love that includes sex thank you very much.

I'm a christian. I am not against gay or bis. I'm against people twisting words to their purposes. I'm also against causing their unions marriages, but I am not against them have the same rights legally.

And they can love unconditionally. But who says they are? No one loves unconditionally. Everyone wants something from everyone else. Even if it is only for them to be there to listen. If they weren't doing what they wanted from them-they wouldn't stick around.

And this includes me.

What does that mean? You are against Marriage, correct? Or are you also against Civil Union?

Well, which ever you chose, it's still going to conclude at the same key point: You are against gays having all the legal rights that heterosexuals currently have.

--Or I misinterpreted your statement. Are you, maybe, for Civil Union and/or Marriage?

For those who are not the traditional couple I am against it being called marriage, but they should have the same rights. I don't see how that's not homosexuals having the same rights.

I'm saying they should-tax s**t and all that. Just that they shouldn't call it marriage, but I'm not too big on marriage period.

"OMG, you're atheist! You shouldn't be able to call it marriage, either, because you don't believe the same as me and you're violating my beliefs!"

What does homosexuality have to do with religious beliefs? I never said homosexuality was a sin. I quoted loosely a translation of the bible to have a valid point for that translation.

Homosexuality is something you are not what you "believe"

I know homosexual christians by the way.

And I won't call it marriage. There's another word for it CIVIL UNION. It is the same thing-just a nicer term so people don't get pissed off.

If you are homosexual and in a civil union-and you know you're talking to a christian-it would be called being polite and trying not to offend them.

I just don't like it being called marriage. I'd rather it be called civil unions. Same for the people who marry for convience of tax returns and the like.

[Triple Dare]

Cat Eye

For those who are not the traditional couple I am against it being called marriage, but they should have the same rights. I don't see how that's not homosexuals having the same rights.

I'm saying they should-tax s**t and all that. Just that they shouldn't call it marriage, but I'm not too big on marriage period.

Ah . . . why, exactly, are you against the use of the word "marriage" in regards to homosexual union? Tradition?

But, besides that, by changing the word "marriage" to something else--exclusive towards homosexuals--means that you don't think the two sexual orientations are on equal terms. It means that homosexuals aren't good enough for it. Makes it worse than not having the right to marry at all. It would be too big a distinction.

--They are currently working on spreading Civil Union rights. Because right now, there are only a few cities/states that sponsor it.