Queen Kelley1
Okay, the NIV is total BS. When did the Hebrew bible have anything to do with capstone?
Why does the NIV call satan"christ"?
*facepalm*
Most of what you quoted wasn't from the NIV but from the ORIGINAL GREEK the language that the Bible was FIRST written in.
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Well, anyways the KJV is the same as the bible 1500 years ago [the Latin version].
which was traslated to English from Latin from Greek.
A problem with translations in general is they don't work.
Period.
At all.
You can't understand the nuances of one language completely in another.
I assume you're an anime fan simply because you're on the internet, so I'll use Japanese as an example.
Suki, Daisuki, and Aishitersu.
All of them mean "love" but they are different degrees of love. If I say "I love you" depending on which one I use it can hold quite a different meaning. However it would be rather annoying if every anime had the footnote on it.
*This love they're talking about is a more friendship based love and not the romantic kind.
Ohiyou gozaimasu really means "The first time we meet today" which, while it is translated as "Good morning" isn't true as people coming to work at night, or in the afternoon still greet everyone "Ohiyou" because it's the first time you meet greeting, not just a morning one.
an even better one that I learnt recently us
Omae no okasan wa debeso.
"Your mother has a Pot-Belly"
((one of the only "Your Mom" jokes in Japan))
However the meaning goes deeper in that, in order for me to know this fact (your mother has a pot belly) implies I slept with your mother. So it can also mean "your mother is a whore" or even "Yea that's what your mom said last night"
Most Japanese people don't even know the history behind that insult.
These are one very basic example in one language very different from English.
So lets also look at German.
Histore and Geshicte (sp??)
Both of these words mean "History" however Historie means "History which can be confirmed by fact" whereas Geshicte means "History which is remembered in legend" So something like the Bible is Geshicte, The Brothers Grimm tales are Geshicte. But the line is even fuzzier then that. The history of say Aristotle, Plato's mentor. We have no proof of his existence beyond the writing of others so while Plato is Historie Aristotle is Geshicte.
So close and yet you wouldn't say "Little red riding hood" should be in a History textbook.
Even the English language has changed so much so people don't recognize it from former times. Thee's and Thous have been replaced by You and They and most people (myself included) don't know the difference, just look at the footnotes in Shakespearean plays, no one in this day and age says "I bite my thumb at thee" nor can we understand what the insult is supposed to be anymore.
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What ever translation err they had, they should have corrected in the year 500 [Which was probably rewritten from the year 400]. I heard nothing of this satanic NIV.
The bible is a collection of 66 separate books written over a time frame of about 1,600 years by 40 different authors.
The Old testament (a.k.a Hebrew Bible, a.k.a Tanakh) comprises of 39 books written between 1500 BCE and 400BCE
The New testament "novum testamentum", or as the English says it, "New Covenant." contains 27 books written from 40 CE to 90 CE (or later if I'm going to be mean about it since these dates are debated adding and removing decades depending on who is doing the dating)
The OT is written in Ancient Hebrew
The NT is written mostly in Greek with a little Arabic.
In 500 CE the Bible was translated into many languages, however at the same time the Council of Nicea took place which then united the Christians Churches to one, the Roman Catholic Church, also uniting the languages to one language, The Latin Vulgate. by 600 CE there was only one Bible in only one language. Restricting readership of the Bible to priests approved of by the RCC, and all religious interpretations and gospel spreading to them.
Those who translated the scripture into any other language would be punished by death. All other copies of scripture not approved by them were to be destroyed. (Fortunately thanks to the Dead Sea Scrolls many missing scriptures and other translations of the same scriptures in their pre 500CE state have been found. Giving us fresh translations of once muddled work.)
After 600CE priests were able to rule the religious (and thus governmental and privet) lives of people without question. A priest in a town or village literally held a man or woman's afterlife in his hands, because, not only was he the only legal religion, he was the only one who understood it.
Because of this any priest could teach any doctrine without scriptural foundation (Hence the reason why many people believe Mary Magdaline was the Adulteress mentioned in the New Testament, however she had nothing to do with that as the Adulteress was unnamed and Mary came before. Officially this has been retracted but her name is forever sullied by this false doctrine.)
This forced ignorance went on from 500 CE to around 1500CE.
Around 1500 CE one John Wyclif believed people should be able to read the Bible in their own language, later scholars such as Thomas Linacre and John Colet when looking at the Latin bible saw it had become so corrupt it hardly resembled the original texts at all. This was also followed quite closely by Martin Luther and his 48 thesis against the method in which the Roman Catholics taught.
In 1611 the King James Bible was created on commission by King James 1 of England.
It was translated by 40-50 scholars who had nothing to do with the church.
BUT the group was directed by a Committee of Roman Catholic Church Bishops and had to gain their approval on any traslation they did, therefor they made the command that any translations the scholars made could not go against any pre dictated commandments of the church
(So even if the Bible said "Homosexuality is Okay here's a story about a big happy gay couple" the RCC wouldn't have let them put it in.)
If the scholars had anything they were unsure of, they to follow what the RCC had previously said about that verse instead of looking for their own translation. King James himself placed rules upon their translations as well, further stating that they had to keep things within the currently established status quo. (So if the bible said "Down with the King" they couldn't traslate that either.)
The KJV Bible is found by most scholars to be the MOST unreliable and erroneous if not outright incorrect Bible Version to date.
The Issue with many Bibles following is that very few scholars bother to look into the hermeneutics of the text past what other scholars already believe.
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Also, we do not know 100% even 70% that god allowed homo activities, let's not risk it.
Based on that reasoning...
Well we don't know 100% if God wants us to eat certain foods so I hope you're asking forgiveness for ever shrimp and peice of pork you've ever eaten
Well we done know 100% if God allows computers. QUICK GET OFF THE DEVIL MACHINE.
If the Bible doesn't say, or we don't know, then if falls under Christian liberty and we judge it based on how Jesus taught us how to judge teachings.
In Matt 7 Jesus tells us to judge a Teacher (or Prophet) by his/her "Fruit" saying that no good fruit can come from a bad tree and no bad fruit can come from a good tree.
What "Fruit" has the prophecy that homosexuality is a sin brought?
Death, either the killing of homosexuals, the ignorance leading to the spread of disease amongst them or those driven to suicide under the belief that they are detestable creatures by their nature.
Fear and Hate, Bigotry, Lies and Slander, Families breaking apart and Friendships lost forever.
And most importantly, an abandonment of God.
Because Homosexuals feel that their very desire is detestable due to these false teachings many of them and other Christians have abandoned God rather than believe that they'd be condemned by feeling love for someone who is coincidentally their own sex.
What "Fruit" has the prophecy that homosexuality is not a sin brought?
It has kept people alive, it has given them rights and awareness.
It has brought Families back together and kept friendships going. It's resulting in Loving Caring couples and Joyous Happy Homes. It has created Understanding and Peace.
And most importantly again. It has reconnected people with God and prevented further sinning and hate from spreading.
I personally know a few Homosexuals whom I have spoken with on this topic whom had given up on the Love of God until after they realized that it was simply the hate of man being pushed on them. Friends of Homosexuals who have been eased in their abject fear that their friends were going to hell simply because of whom they loved.
When you see a girl break down distraught because her best friend is "Going to hell" you can really see the fruit of that false prophecy.
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BTW the 10 commandment is what he expect of us.
And "Thou shalt not be a part of this faggotry" was not one of those commandments.
And Jesus broke some of them himself and encouraged the breaking of them.
