Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[linaloki]

ty_ping

linaloki

Okay. I just recently found a "Questions about Christianity answered here!" thread in M&R. Which, really, is what this is supposed to be, just with a preemptive strike on the big'uns.

Someone in there asked about Christians dating atheists. Someone else responded with this verse:

2 Corinthians 6:14, NIV

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

I'm officially annoyed at how often this verse gets yanked out of context and misused. This verse does NOT deal with dating or marriage. If one reads the entire passage, one notes that there is a severely large amount of references to temples and gods. This verse talks about not mixing pagan rituals with Christianity, which the Corinthians were almost certainly doing. Now, some will say that it lends itself the other way. To defend this point, I direct you here:

1 Corinthians 7:12-14, NIV

To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

Through Christ, we can bring a non-believer we are wed to, or even dating, to him. Clearly, there isn't a ban on dating non-believers, so long as we are strong enough to not pull a Solomon.

*puts this rant in OP*

So basically Paul says "If you believe, don't worry about it, either your belief with convert them or it wont. You shouldn't force it, nor should you jepordize the relationship because of it. If your belief is weak and you think they'll make you do bad things as a Christian in the name of their belief than maybe you shouldn't be with them, but that's them forcing their beliefs on you. So long as you stay out of eachothers religion you two should be happy and loving."

To modernize it and paraphrase.

Exactomundo.

I hate seeing Christians screwing things up by dating someone for a while then breaking up with the person because they're not Christian, too. Which usually causes a crapload of crap feelings all around.

[Mister Mental]

This thread is so full of win, it makes me happy on the inside. It brings tears of utter joy crying

That being said there's not enough crazy fundies being crazy fundies. Too bad the Westboro Baptist Church believes every website besides there own is full of Satan-spawned homosexuals and 'f** enablahs' or else they would offer up some entertainment I am sure.

[Isaac488]

linaloki

ty_ping

linaloki

Okay. I just recently found a "Questions about Christianity answered here!" thread in M&R. Which, really, is what this is supposed to be, just with a preemptive strike on the big'uns.

Someone in there asked about Christians dating atheists. Someone else responded with this verse:

2 Corinthians 6:14, NIV

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

I'm officially annoyed at how often this verse gets yanked out of context and misused. This verse does NOT deal with dating or marriage. If one reads the entire passage, one notes that there is a severely large amount of references to temples and gods. This verse talks about not mixing pagan rituals with Christianity, which the Corinthians were almost certainly doing. Now, some will say that it lends itself the other way. To defend this point, I direct you here:

1 Corinthians 7:12-14, NIV

To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

Through Christ, we can bring a non-believer we are wed to, or even dating, to him. Clearly, there isn't a ban on dating non-believers, so long as we are strong enough to not pull a Solomon.

*puts this rant in OP*

So basically Paul says "If you believe, don't worry about it, either your belief with convert them or it wont. You shouldn't force it, nor should you jepordize the relationship because of it. If your belief is weak and you think they'll make you do bad things as a Christian in the name of their belief than maybe you shouldn't be with them, but that's them forcing their beliefs on you. So long as you stay out of eachothers religion you two should be happy and loving."

To modernize it and paraphrase.

Exactomundo.

I hate seeing Christians screwing things up by dating someone for a while then breaking up with the person because they're not Christian, too. Which usually causes a crapload of crap feelings all around.

That's happened to me....only it was this guy's bat-s**t crazy mother whom I went to church with who hated me. She was pissed that her son and I spent some time alone walking around at one church gathering thing and forced him to break up with me. Oh well, adventists are nuts anyway.

[linaloki]

Mister Mental

This thread is so full of win, it makes me happy on the inside. It brings tears of utter joy crying

That being said there's not enough crazy fundies being crazy fundies. Too bad the Westboro Baptist Church believes every website besides there own is full of Satan-spawned homosexuals and 'f** enablahs' or else they would offer up some entertainment I am sure.

Eh, they'd just say I was going to burn in hell and God would rejoice in my death or something.

[Reicheru-Kitty]

Didn't God burn down a whole city for sodomy?

[linaloki]

Reicheru-Kitty

Didn't God burn down a whole city for sodomy?

No. If you view section 2 of my third post, I believe you'll find why Sodom and Gomorrah were razed.

[Reicheru-Kitty]

linaloki

Reicheru-Kitty

Didn't God burn down a whole city for sodomy?

No. If you view section 2 of my third post, I believe you'll find why Sodom and Gomorrah were razed.

oh...i jus heard the burnin down the city from someone...im an atheist i jus dont care....jus wonderin..

[linaloki]

Reicheru-Kitty

linaloki

Reicheru-Kitty

Didn't God burn down a whole city for sodomy?

No. If you view section 2 of my third post, I believe you'll find why Sodom and Gomorrah were razed.

oh...i jus heard the burnin down the city from someone...im an atheist i jus dont care....jus wonderin..

People mistakenly attribute Sodom's burning to sodomy, a term created in the 13th century... to define the supposed sins of Sodom. In reality, it was raping guests, inhospitality, greed, and other sins.

[Gho the Girl]

Isaac488

[ Oh well, adventists are nuts anyway.

Hey, one of my very good friends is a 7th Day Adventist. Watch yer tone.

[Isaac488]

Gho the Girl

Isaac488

[ Oh well, adventists are nuts anyway.

Hey, one of my very good friends is a 7th Day Adventist. Watch yer tone.

So what? I think I'd know something about them since I had the unfortunate experience of being one (in a way) for three years because of my dad. My friends are also SDA and I still think the lot of them are nuts.

[linaloki]

I've gotta say, the ban on dancing, reading secular novels, listening to secular music, or watching secular theatre that the SDA has... As well as following the kosher laws...

Don't think I like that much.

[Isaac488]

linaloki

I've gotta say, the ban on dancing, reading secular novels, listening to secular music, or watching secular theatre that the SDA has... As well as following the kosher laws...

Don't think I like that much.

I don't know about the dancing thing or any of that stuff. We watched Cat-Woman one time in the church. Though I did hear of some church schools that banned dancing and rock music. Hear about that one kid that was expelled because he went to his girlfriends prom at a different school?

[linaloki]

Isaac488

linaloki

I've gotta say, the ban on dancing, reading secular novels, listening to secular music, or watching secular theatre that the SDA has... As well as following the kosher laws...

Don't think I like that much.

I don't know about the dancing thing or any of that stuff. We watched Cat-Woman one time in the church. Though I did hear of some church schools that banned dancing and rock music. Hear about that one kid that was expelled because he went to his girlfriends prom at a different school?

I thought that was a Mormon school... was it SDAs?

[Gho the Girl]

Isaac488

Gho the Girl

Isaac488

[ Oh well, adventists are nuts anyway.

Hey, one of my very good friends is a 7th Day Adventist. Watch yer tone.

So what? I think I'd know something about them since I had the unfortunate experience of being one (in a way) for three years because of my dad. My friends are also SDA and I still think the lot of them are nuts.

If such restrictions on them lead them closer to God, who are you to question them?

[Temba]

Gho the Girl

Isaac488

[ Oh well, adventists are nuts anyway.

Hey, one of my very good friends is a 7th Day Adventist. Watch yer tone.

So you don't think that guys mother forcing him to break up with his friend was wrong? Or are you one of those types that condones such behaviour? it the actions of your congregation that makes people think your nuts.