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I doubt god supports anything relating to LGBT, that includes homos.


1) "Homos" is the derogatory term for the LG part of LGBT (possibly including the B)
2) what you doubt does not equate to what God does or does not support.

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If he allowed LGBT he would have allowed females to get pregnant by another female and a male would be capable of being pregnant if he sexually interacted with another male.
Since they exist at all and do not spontaneously combust they are "allowed" by their mere existence. The question is then if their acting upon their feelings is a sin, or even if the feelings themselves are a sin.

If your classification of "Not sin" then is the ability to get pregnant than pre-marital sex and adultery and polygamy or polyandry must all be "Not sin" and "Blessed" as well since they can all result in pregnancy.

Which then also begs the question of, God must hate the infertile and women who have hit menopause and you have to wonder how he feels about artificial insemination since on the "Not sin" side someone gets pregnant, but on the "Sin" side, anyone can do it including homosexuals.

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Another thing, all the bible talks about is male and female.
Nope, it talks about Males and Males and Females and Females at some points too.
Daniel and Ashpenaz, Jonathan and David, and Ruth and Naomi as well as the unnamed Roman Canturion and his Servant that Jesus blessed and healed. ((Although to be perfectly honest with you all of these are weak except the Daniel and Ashepenaz, Those two were definitely gay.)

Plus in the situations where the Bible does talk about Men and Women being together it ranges from being very positive situations to very negative and sinful situations. Their sexuality and gender has nothing to do with their sin, but rather the way in which they are using sex or treating one another.
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There is no where in the bible where it says that god allowed chicks to stay with chick and males to stay with male.
See above, yes the Bible does have moments of blessing homosexual unions, just because you refuse to acknowledge them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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I haven't heard this even when Noah was preparing for the great flood. Kissing and making out...


1) what?

2) No one and no where in the Bible does it ever talk about kissing and making out.

except oddly enough when talking about Jonathan and David doing it.
Or Soloman with his many many bitches.
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I don't think it is a big deal, just make sure you get married to the opposite sex. 3nodding

Oh stuff it.


I'm a not a christian, but I do believe in god. I think the bible is full of bs. After thousands of years, by now theyshould have fuked up the bible the way they wanted to.

I don't know what to believe in thr bible, Satans playing to damn much. Chill out demon.
Lord Setar
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22


Colossians 2:13-15, NIV
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


Hebrews 7:18-19, NIV
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.


You were saying?

are you demoting the old testament???!!!

in the beginning there was he word then the word became flesh.... jesus didnt destroy the old testament he finished it
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augustine17
Lord Setar
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22


Colossians 2:13-15, NIV
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


Hebrews 7:18-19, NIV
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.


You were saying?

are you demoting the old testament???!!!

in the beginning there was he word then the word became flesh.... jesus didnt destroy the old testament he finished it
I hope you don't wear mixed fabrics or eat fish.
augustine17
Lord Setar
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22


Colossians 2:13-15, NIV
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


Hebrews 7:18-19, NIV
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.


You were saying?

are you demoting the old testament???!!!

in the beginning there was he word then the word became flesh.... jesus didnt destroy the old testament he finished it


Which means we don't follow Levitican laws.
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Strange, I thought that's exactly what I did. As opposed to wanton acceptance of the English translated words as interpreted by someone else, Madame Copy-Pasta.


I don't understand how she is called copy-paste. It seems as if those are her words.


Earlier, she posted a small essay against homosexuality that was a copy-paste.

vanjan1
Um, Lucifer= Satan, I would say that is correct.


You would be incorrect. Lucifer was an ancient Babylonian royal title meaning Prince of Light. Used in the book of Isaiah, it was left untranslated, and some pope along the line decided that it referred not to the Babylonian king of the time, but to Satan.

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Being born, perhaps?


xd It sure didn't exist when Adam and Eve were together.


Neither did a lot of things, like multiple races. *shrug*

vanjan1
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And you haven't really done much to prove that.


God did say he loves everyone. Just like she said, use logical sense. xd , study the bible child.


...Have done.

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Personally, I've looked at both sides. Heck, I probably was subconsciously on your side of the line when younger, considering. Can you honestly say you've considered the opposing arguments?


I'm not sure about her, but I have. I do think homo is a sin, almost everything is xd . Also, someone with knowledge of the bible, who reads it, and gets preached to on a basis would automatically stand on that belief. I've looked through what you were saying, but comparing it with the bible and past just seems, incorrect. Think about the subject some more.


I've been studying and thinking on this subject for 5 years. What of you?

If you're comparing what I've written to traditional Christian thought with the thought that traditional thought holds some form of authority, you are already in a sad world. Need I remind you of the Pharisees?
augustine17
Lord Setar
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22


Colossians 2:13-15, NIV
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


Hebrews 7:18-19, NIV
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.


You were saying?

are you demoting the old testament???!!!

in the beginning there was he word then the word became flesh.... jesus didnt destroy the old testament he finished it


Do you follow the kosher laws?
Queen Kelley1
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I haven't heard this even when Noah was preparing for the great flood. Kissing and making out... I don't think it is a big deal, just make sure you get married to the opposite sex. 3nodding


You do know that linaloki is NOT gay, right?



Yes, I run into post/threads about LGBT and it's all straight people that post them.

First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.


η ουκ οιδατε οτι αδικοι βασιλειαν θεου ου κληρονομησουσιν μη πλανασθε ουτε πορνοι ουτε ειδωλολατραι ουτε μοιχοι ουτε μαλακοι ουτε αρσενοκοιται


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No it doesn't
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Lord Setar
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22


Colossians 2:13-15, NIV
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


Hebrews 7:18-19, NIV
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.


You were saying?


Which reminds me, I need to add Galatians up there...

Galatians 2:11-21; 3:1-25, NIV]When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

"We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

"If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? Have you suffered so much for nothing—if it really was for nothing? Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?

Consider Abraham: "He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.

Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the
rofm9jxt:4="Galatians 2:11-21; 3:1-25, NIV]When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray.

When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?

"We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

"If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? Have you suffered so much for nothing—if it really was for nothing? Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?

Consider Abraham: "He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.

Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.


Which I suppose could be boiled down to:

Galatians 3:25, NIV
Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
Queen Kelley1
While the Bible does address homosexuality,
Not really... it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Now that's just a lie.
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Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin.

No it doesn't.
Lev 18:22 defines ritualistic sex between two men of distinction as being a unclean act.

Just as sinful as seeing any of your family members naked. (Ever take a bath with your siblings?) the rest of Leviticus 1
Looking at or being in the presence of the statues of other Gods or taking the silver or gold of these statues for any other use. (Do you know where your jewelry comes from?) Deu 7:25
Eating Unclean food (Curse you Red Lobster!) Deu 14:3
Consulting someone who can speak to the dead or see the future (ever read your horoscope?) Deu 18:11-12
Women wearing pants and men wearing makeup (No more acting for you boys, Orlando Bloom and Jhonny Depp are just as bad off as them Gays) Deu 22:5

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Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent.

BUZZZZ Reading between the lines again.
verses 26-27 is not in context with the rest of the passage. It states right in the passage "For this reason" blatantly implying that there is something else going on here. The lusts spoken of are the result of godlessness and the refusal of the gospel of God. The godless ones are described as being given over to their passions. It is important to realize that the passage is not centered on homosexual relations, no matter how you interpret it.

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First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God.

A-nope. Unless you can read αρσενοκοιται and μαλακοι and understand Jewish writings and Greek grammar you're going to just have to trust me on the fact that the word "Homosexual" or the concept "Homosexual" isn't what is going on here at all.

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Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage, Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife.

And Jesus talks about Men leaving their families for God without having wives. Paul speaks that it is better for everyone to stay single and to never marry.
Plus, the word used there? דבק for clinging or cleaving, the whole thing you do to your wife/husband that registers you as married in the eyes of God?

Yea, Ruth did that to Naomi. So they were, at least linguistically by this standard. Married.

Interesting thing to note here is that this passage does say "For this reason" What is the reason? God made Eve for Adam so "For this reason"

It could be referring to people God made for them, soul mates. For the reason of finding your destined match that God has created for you, you shall leave your families household to be with them. Gender (as in what genitalia you have) may play no direct part in this as this could be a general reference to all me, or even a specific reference to Adam anyway.

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In passages that contain instructions regarding marriage, such as 1 Corinthians 7:2-16


Naughty Naughty, taking it out of context.
"Now for the matters you wrote about..." Well anything written in this passage is an answer to a specific question. And the question was not "Can gay people marry" Looking at the context of the entire chapter Paul says everyone should stay virgin, no one should ever have sex, but if they can't keep it in their pants then they should marry and the sex within their marriage then is not a sin. But women should not be forced into marriage and neither men. He also says that non-believers should not be forced into the beliefs of the believers, that each one has their place and path and calling before God.

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and Ephesians 5:23-33, the Bible clearly identifies marriage as being between a man and a woman.

Hermaphrodites (or intersexed)
and Computers.

Lack of mention or rules does not a sin make. Else get off that computer you sinner and step away from your jeans and non-mud-brick house.

The Bible also identifies rabbits as cud chewing animals when they don't.

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Biblically speaking, marriage is the lifetime union of a man and a woman, primarily for the purpose of building a family and providing a stable environment for that family.
nope. Not since Jesus and Paul came to town.

Marriage for the Bible was a contractual agreement between two families that involved linage lines of inheritance, hence the reason why if one brother died without having a child, his younger sibling was required By Biblical Law to impregnate the widow regardless of his marital status. However according to Paul and Jesus this was not a requirement, Marriage became the commitment that you're kind of talking about here but it isn't for building that family for inheritance reasons as it once was, but now simply as a way of not sinning by becoming preoccupied with sex.
Now marriage is a convenience for your baser instinctual needs so you can focus whole heartedly on God instead of worrying about your genitalia and offspring.

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The Bible alone, however, does not have to be used to demonstrate this understanding of marriage. The biblical viewpoint of marriage has been the universal understanding of marriage in every human civilization in world history.

History and Civilizations that didn't have the Bible (And still don't) would like to have a word with you.

In Taoism some men can have too much Yin so acting as females is considered acceptable for them, (Same for women with too much Yang)
The Gods Shanshen and Tudigong are both male and often known for living together as lovers.

Confucianism was okay with Homosexuality in general, as long as it was NOT exclusive as a male was still expected to have children to continue his family line as duty to family and linage was of greater importance than personal wants. (However within that context the Emperor if he had a son with one concubine already could demand that his male lover be his exclusively and since one's duty to the state overruled their duty to their family that lover sacrificing his linage for his king would have been seen as honorable.)

Scholar Pan Guangdan came to the conclusion that nearly every emperor in the Han Dynasty had one or more male sex partners. There are also descriptions of lesbians in some history books. It is believed homosexuality was popular in the Song, Ming, and Qing dynasties

In some areas, same sex love was particularly appreciated. Xie Zhaozhe (1567–1624) wrote that "from Jiangnan and Zhejiang to Beijing and Shanxi, there is none that does not know of this fondness." Even the European Jesuit missionaries—such as Matteo Ricci (1552–1610)—took note of this and what they deemed "unnatural perversions", distressed over its often open and public nature.
((Hinsch, Bret (1992). Passions of the Cut Sleeve. University of California Press))

Buddhist monasteries appear to have been early centres of homosexual activity in ancient Japan. It was popularly said that Kūkai, the founder of the Shingon Buddhist sect, introduced nanshoku into Japan after returning from Tang China in the 9th century. Anyone knowing about Buddhism knows that it believes in the chastity of everyone however enough monks seem to have felt their vows of chastity did not apply to same-sex relations that stories of affairs between monks and young acolytes, known as Chigo Monogatari were quite popular, Jesuits reported aghast on the 'sodomy' that occurred among Buddhist clergy.

In Europe homosexual marriage was permitted up until 300 C.E when it was outlawed by Christians.
((Theodosian Code))

However allegedly it continued happening (even within the Christian churches) until the 12th century.

Historian John Boswell argued that Adelphopoiesis, or brother-making, represented an early form of religious same-sex marriage in the Orthodox church, and Alan Bray saw the rite of Ordo ad fratres faciendum ("Order for the making of brothers" wink as serving the same purpose in the medieval Roman Catholic Church.

In North America, among the Native Americans societies, it has taken the form of Two-Spirit-type relationships, in which some male members of the tribe, from an early age, heed a calling to take on female gender with all its responsibilities. They are prized as wives by the other men in the tribe, who enter into formal marriages with these Two-Spirit men. They are also respected as being especially powerful shamans.

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History argues against gay marriage. Modern secular psychology recognizes that men and women are psychologically and emotionally designed to complement one another.
Now that is a BLAITENT lie.
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In regard to the family, psychologists contend that a union between a man and woman in which both spouses serve as good gender role models is the best environment in which to raise well-adjusted children.
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Psychology argues against gay marriage.
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In nature/physicality, clearly, men and women were designed to “fit” together sexually.
Lie as well as the most sexually sensative part of the female body is on the outside of the body and best stimulated with a tongue, fingers or and don't ask me what the position is called but when two women mount each other on the side. A lesbian friend described it to me.
And for the male, their "g-spot" is located up their a**.
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With the “natural” purpose of sexual intercourse being procreation,
Also wrong as sex serves other functions as well not just pro-creative and marriage for humans is exceptionally unnatural as we are not biologically designed for monogomy
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clearly only a sexual relationship between a man and a woman can fulfill this purpose. Nature argues against gay marriage.

Only when you're lying about nature.
linaloki
Queen Kelley1
Also, you can tell me where the Christians got the "Homo is a sin", I'll tell you that it wasn't in this era.


And your point is... what? That if Christians thought it for a long time, it must be right? Like Lucifer = Satan is "correct"?
Or Mary Magdaline = Whore

Or Earth = Flat

Christians got the whole "homosexuality is a sin" thing due to the mix of being integrated into Roman society where pederasty and prostitution were very common and where gender transcendence in polytheistic religious practices was the norm.
As well as their Jewish history of needing offspring to continue the Jewish line (Something spoken against by both Paul and Jesus as unwanted and unnecessary since now Gentiles could become Christians so they didn't need to populate their own religion through breeding, they could convert people instead.) And the Jewish history of finding anything to do with the praise and practice of other deities being intrinsically wrong
(homosexual acts were sometimes used as means of communication with other Gods. As was bestiality, these Idolatrous practices is where the term Sodomy as a sexual construct was first coined before being used as a general ideal for any type of sexual no no before its more modern use of "Any form of sex not involving p***s to vaginal penetration for the purpose of pro-creation" wink
John Calvin
Queen Kelley1
The bible is the history book of the universe. It tells the about the past, present, and future. talk2hand so don't go there girlfriend.


Never call me "girlfriend." I am not a female. The Bible is not a history book of the universe. Even Rabbi Shlomo, son of Isaac, did not consider Genesis to be even talking about the creation of the universe, or else the Hebrew would have been barishonah, "At first."

Queen Kelley1
And besides, I'm sure your scientist had gotten his ideas from the bible. rolleyes


My scientist? I own a scientist?


Can I borrow your scientist for a moment, I want to make a death ray to carve my name into the moon.
augustine17
Leviticus 18:22
שאת-זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תִעבה הוא

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
vanjan1
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Queen Kelley1


I doubt god supports anything relating to LGBT, that includes homos.


1) "Homos" is the derogatory term for the LG part of LGBT (possibly including the B)
2) what you doubt does not equate to what God does or does not support.

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If he allowed LGBT he would have allowed females to get pregnant by another female and a male would be capable of being pregnant if he sexually interacted with another male.
Since they exist at all and do not spontaneously combust they are "allowed" by their mere existence. The question is then if their acting upon their feelings is a sin, or even if the feelings themselves are a sin.

If your classification of "Not sin" then is the ability to get pregnant than pre-marital sex and adultery and polygamy or polyandry must all be "Not sin" and "Blessed" as well since they can all result in pregnancy.

Which then also begs the question of, God must hate the infertile and women who have hit menopause and you have to wonder how he feels about artificial insemination since on the "Not sin" side someone gets pregnant, but on the "Sin" side, anyone can do it including homosexuals.

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Another thing, all the bible talks about is male and female.
Nope, it talks about Males and Males and Females and Females at some points too.
Daniel and Ashpenaz, Jonathan and David, and Ruth and Naomi as well as the unnamed Roman Canturion and his Servant that Jesus blessed and healed. ((Although to be perfectly honest with you all of these are weak except the Daniel and Ashepenaz, Those two were definitely gay.)

Plus in the situations where the Bible does talk about Men and Women being together it ranges from being very positive situations to very negative and sinful situations. Their sexuality and gender has nothing to do with their sin, but rather the way in which they are using sex or treating one another.
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There is no where in the bible where it says that god allowed chicks to stay with chick and males to stay with male.
See above, yes the Bible does have moments of blessing homosexual unions, just because you refuse to acknowledge them doesn't mean they don't exist.
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I haven't heard this even when Noah was preparing for the great flood. Kissing and making out...


1) what?

2) No one and no where in the Bible does it ever talk about kissing and making out.

except oddly enough when talking about Jonathan and David doing it.
Or Soloman with his many many bitches.
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I don't think it is a big deal, just make sure you get married to the opposite sex. 3nodding

Oh stuff it.


I'm a not a christian, but I do believe in god. I think the bible is full of bs. After thousands of years, by now theyshould have fuked up the bible the way they wanted to.

I don't know what to believe in thr bible, Satans playing to damn much. Chill out demon.


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What?
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Thank you, Setar. Her blatant ignorance was making my brain hurt.


I've dealt with her before - she popped up in a bunch of the evolution threads saying that evolution was false and that, given five or so years, she would disprove it =/
Ugh... Creationist AND homophobic...


Since when is being a Creationist something bad? I don't believe we came from apes, or trees, or fish - or whatever animal we suddenly evolved from (seems to change all the time).

I think when scientists discover the next so-called missing link, the animal in question is a new species, nothing more.


There's a difference,

There's animals evolving to adapt to new surroundings etc
Then there's the GOD CREATED IT LIKE HOW IT IS AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED SO THERE!!!


I do believe in adapting to the environment; I don't have an issue with that. I just don't believe we were little fish that crawled out of the muck.

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