Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

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IcarusDream

Shenshi_Rei

Yo, what does blasphemy against the holy spirit mean? Does that mean just regular blasphemy or a special case? Cos surely, regular blasphemy's forgivible if you ask, right? I'm not exactly a Christian, I'm more of a Deist with an open mind, but it's something curious I just wanted to ask.

"Blasphemy against the Spirit: The sin of attributing to Satan what is the work of the Spirit of God." - A footnote in my bible

That note would make sense in the context. It was what the pharisees had just done by attributing Jesus' power to drive out demons as being done by Beelzebub.

I've also seen blasphemy against the spirit explained as "the sin of not asking for forgiveness." God forgives all who repent and convert, so the only people whose sins go unforgiven are those who did not even ask for forgiveness.

I just looked up the word Blasphamy, Or βλασφημία which means "slander" (essentially) so what I explained it as is pretty accurate although the modern belief of it is anything denying or insulting to God.

[Neferet -House of Night-]

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IcarusDream

Shenshi_Rei

Yo, what does blasphemy against the holy spirit mean? Does that mean just regular blasphemy or a special case? Cos surely, regular blasphemy's forgivible if you ask, right? I'm not exactly a Christian, I'm more of a Deist with an open mind, but it's something curious I just wanted to ask.

"Blasphemy against the Spirit: The sin of attributing to Satan what is the work of the Spirit of God." - A footnote in my bible

That note would make sense in the context. It was what the pharisees had just done by attributing Jesus' power to drive out demons as being done by Beelzebub.

I've also seen blasphemy against the spirit explained as "the sin of not asking for forgiveness." God forgives all who repent and convert, so the only people whose sins go unforgiven are those who did not even ask for forgiveness.

I just looked up the word Blasphamy, Or βλασφημία which means "slander" (essentially) so what I explained it as is pretty accurate although the modern belief of it is anything denying or insulting to God.

Insulting someone can be looked as slander or libel since it's defamation of one's character.

[linaloki]

IcarusDream

Shenshi_Rei

Yo, what does blasphemy against the holy spirit mean? Does that mean just regular blasphemy or a special case? Cos surely, regular blasphemy's forgivible if you ask, right? I'm not exactly a Christian, I'm more of a Deist with an open mind, but it's something curious I just wanted to ask.

"Blasphemy against the Spirit: The sin of attributing to Satan what is the work of the Spirit of God." - A footnote in my bible

That note would make sense in the context. It was what the pharisees had just done by attributing Jesus' power to drive out demons as being done by Beelzebub.

I've also seen blasphemy against the spirit explained as "the sin of not asking for forgiveness." God forgives all who repent and convert, so the only people whose sins go unforgiven are those who did not even ask for forgiveness.

The second one is the one I've seen most often. The first is an interesting theory I've not heard before.

[Westfield Skanker]

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

[Yoru Kurosawa]

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Give me reason to fill this hole
Connect the space between...

Allow me then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

Which cites...

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/history_of_marriage_in_western.html

I'm pretty damn sure in Ancient Greece and Rome, they didn't have Christianity...

Let it be enough to reach the truth that lies
Across this new divide...

[linaloki]

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

[Westfield Skanker]

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

linaloki

Christianity was formed approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus has been judged to die at around 28 AD (Born in 5 BC). Marriage has been a concept since ancient Sumeria. Which is much older than two thousand years. Or, even better: The Roman Empire, founded 57 BC I believe. Before Jesus. Marriage happened. Better than that: Judaism, the religion that Christianity started upon? Marriages occurred.

[Anakha the Silver]

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

linaloki

Christianity was formed approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus has been judged to die at around 28 AD (Born in 5 BC). Marriage has been a concept since ancient Sumeria. Which is much older than two thousand years. Or, even better: The Roman Empire, founded 57 BC I believe. Before Jesus. Marriage happened. Better than that: Judaism, the religion that Christianity started upon? Marriages occurred.

That's actual marriage, not rituals. :/ It should be common freaking sense that Christians didn't incent it.

[Westfield Skanker]

Yoru Kurosawa

Allow me then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

Which cites...

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/history_of_marriage_in_western.html

I'm pretty damn sure in Ancient Greece and Rome, they didn't have Christianity...

That doesn't address the Sumeria claim.

[Westfield Skanker]

Anakha the Silver

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

linaloki

Christianity was formed approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus has been judged to die at around 28 AD (Born in 5 BC). Marriage has been a concept since ancient Sumeria. Which is much older than two thousand years. Or, even better: The Roman Empire, founded 57 BC I believe. Before Jesus. Marriage happened. Better than that: Judaism, the religion that Christianity started upon? Marriages occurred.

That's actual marriage, not rituals. :/ It should be common freaking sense that Christians didn't incent it.

That's obviously not what they believe.

And marriage is a ritual by definition.

[Anakha the Silver]

Westfield Skanker

Anakha the Silver

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

linaloki

Christianity was formed approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus has been judged to die at around 28 AD (Born in 5 BC). Marriage has been a concept since ancient Sumeria. Which is much older than two thousand years. Or, even better: The Roman Empire, founded 57 BC I believe. Before Jesus. Marriage happened. Better than that: Judaism, the religion that Christianity started upon? Marriages occurred.

That's actual marriage, not rituals. :/ It should be common freaking sense that Christians didn't incent it.

That's obviously not what they believe.

And marriage is a ritual by definition.

Ritual by definition?

Going down to the courthouse and having a judge sign off on a piece of paper is a ritual?

[Westfield Skanker]

Anakha the Silver

Ritual by definition?

Going down to the courthouse and having a judge sign off on a piece of paper is a ritual?

That's the legal definition.
Culturally, it's a ritual.

[Anakha the Silver]

Westfield Skanker

Anakha the Silver

Ritual by definition?

Going down to the courthouse and having a judge sign off on a piece of paper is a ritual?

That's the legal definition.
Culturally, it's a ritual.

Except that this is marriage in general.

Also, Christians can believe what they want. Can I change the laws because I think everyone should kill puppies and kittens on Fridays because my deity commands it?

[`Ramune]

Personally, I've always thought religion was inspiring and interesting, enough for me to join the Church yet again, but I'm put out by all the 'tards on television, in my neighborhood, or even at work, who think they know everything. Okay, the last time I went to church was ... a while ago, but I still know my straight facts. I just get fed up with the "overly religious freaks" (as my manager, Jennifer says.) Seriously, they freak me out. They revolve their entire being around God and Jesus. Don't get me wrong, they're amazing figures in our lives, but really? When I go to work, I do not want to be assaulted by Almighty Church Goers who try to get me to convent to their church! Or to sell me bibles!

Thanks, but no thanks.

Religion is a mighty thing, and I love looking into it and celebrating our holidays to honor God and Jesus, but...I just get put out by people who don't know the facts or are too overly religious.

`R

[linaloki]

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

linaloki

Westfield Skanker

Do you have the source for the beginning of marriage rituals?

I don't believe so... I might could answer questions you have, though.

Not the same.
This is the ED; if you don't have credible sources to back up your claims, then you're not really presenting your argument responsibly.
Taking answers from a stranger in a forum on the internet is like asking the homeless person on the side of the road what the most recent press release from the American president said.

Can you perhaps show me where I referenced marital rituals?

linaloki

Christianity was formed approximately 2000 years ago. Jesus has been judged to die at around 28 AD (Born in 5 BC). Marriage has been a concept since ancient Sumeria. Which is much older than two thousand years. Or, even better: The Roman Empire, founded 57 BC I believe. Before Jesus. Marriage happened. Better than that: Judaism, the religion that Christianity started upon? Marriages occurred.

So... you want me to prove that marriages occurred before Christ was born?

Well, if we accept the Bible as truth, as we are in this thread for the sake of easier debate, then the Bible shows marriage happened before Christ was born.

If it's Sumeria you're worried about, here's some stuff.

There were even marriage contracts discussed in the Code of Hammurabi, rule 128.