Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[iMystere]

Gho the Girl

iMystere

Gho the Girl

iMystere

That's really beautiful. When people cry tears of joy from the word of God, it is truly beautiful.

I've never actually cried during a sermon, but it just spoke to me so much. The emotion I was feeling wasn't really sadness so much as it was, understanding, ya know?

Also, thank you for saying it was beautiful, but my eyes were all runny and a little pink around the edges I was tearing up so much. And I was really trying to keep it reserved since I only knew like 2 or 3 of the people there and everyone else around me were basically strangers. (not that they'll remain that way. I'm going again next week!)

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I'm more emotional with music about God, myself.

Same. You ever listen to Benjamin Gate?

Hm, well, my church is pretty open about that stuff. We all burst into tears and hug and everyone is happy and feels loved.

They do that too there, it's just that at my old church, the one I was baptised in, it was a lot more conservative (emotionally I mean, as in there wasn't all those displays of emotion. Maybe reserved would have been a better word)

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Never heard of. What sub-genre is he?

It's a band name, and they're Christian rock. Kinda tech rock too.

Yeah, I'm glad my church isn't more conservative on emotions. I'm insanely emotional. The last time I was there I was depressed about my break up with my boyfriend, but seeing as it's normal for people to cry there, no one wondered.

Ah okay. Hm, well, I'm a sort of new Christian.

Right now my favorite is Stephanie Smith. She's new.

[Gho the Girl]

iMystere

Yeah, I'm glad my church isn't more conservative on emotions. I'm insanely emotional. The last time I was there I was depressed about my break up with my boyfriend, but seeing as it's normal for people to cry there, no one wondered.

Did you share it with anyone? I'm sure they would have offered love and support if they knew.

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Ah okay. Hm, well, I'm a sort of new Christian.

Right now my favorite is Stephanie Smith. She's new.

Check out Benjamin Gate, and I'll check out Stephanie Smith. 3nodding Deal?

[iMystere]

Gho the Girl

iMystere

Yeah, I'm glad my church isn't more conservative on emotions. I'm insanely emotional. The last time I was there I was depressed about my break up with my boyfriend, but seeing as it's normal for people to cry there, no one wondered.

Did you share it with anyone? I'm sure they would have offered love and support if they knew.

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Ah okay. Hm, well, I'm a sort of new Christian.

Right now my favorite is Stephanie Smith. She's new.

Check out Benjamin Gate, and I'll check out Stephanie Smith. 3nodding Deal?

Oh, people know. My ex's mother actually knows. She was there that day, he was not. She hugged me, and we still talk. She prays for me, along with many of my friends.

Deal. I love music, anyhow. :]

[AniMajor]

Berry4455

(Angry, rule-breaking post)

I can't remember the verses that say it but the bible says that homosexuality is immoral that makes it a sin.

The verse that says that homosexual sex is a sin is in the middle of a book that lists things such as eating shellfish, sitting in a chair that a menstruating woman sat in, or marrying a non-virgin as sins. Why choose homosexual sex out of all those laws that God put down, and ignore the rest?

Also, I'd like to leave you with Matthew 15:10-11, NIV:

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Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

[iMystere]

AniMajor

Berry4455

Vashfan1600

Berry4455

Dude your an idiot. You make some valid points on some things but your wrong on homosexuality. Listen God would have mentioned the actual reason for destroying Sodom and Gamora. Also the New Testament changed the laws. Many but not all laws were erased and are no longer valid. But homosexuality is a sin. and all sins are equal in God's eyes. It makes me mad that you post this. You are going to make people think it is fine to behave that way. God made Eve as a companion for Adam. He made a woman for a man. He did not make a man for a man. He did not give Adam a choice between a man or a woman. He made a woman period. God flooded the Earth because they were acting homosexual. So take this forum down. or change it.

You sir, win my "Idiot of the day" award for stupidest post.

******** You b***h I don't give a s**t. I can't remember the verses that say it but the bible says that homosexuality is immoral that makes it a sin.

The verse that says that homosexual sex is a sin is in the middle of a book that lists things such as eating shellfish, sitting in a chair that a menstruating woman sat in, or marrying a non-virgin as sins. Why choose homosexual sex out of all those laws that God put down, and ignore the rest?

Also, I'd like to leave you with Matthew 15:10-11, NIV:

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Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

Add these to that. :]

Col. 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another,
seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the
image of him that created him."

Psalm 19:14: "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be
acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer."

[deadmanjay]

Berry4455

If it goes against what God wants. It is a sin. plain and simple.

You go against what God wants and lie about his word just like all of the people who do not even bother to realize that the dozens of English translated bibles are translated wrong or are different in some way, thus making either God telling a bunch of people what to say or they just make stuff up. You are sinning sir. Plain and simple.

[iMystere]

Berry4455

Temba

Berry4455

Dude your an idiot. You make some valid points on some things but your wrong on homosexuality. Listen God would have mentioned the actual reason for destroying Sodom and Gamora. Also the New Testament changed the laws. Many but not all laws were erased and are no longer valid. But homosexuality is a sin. and all sins are equal in God's eyes. It makes me mad that you post this. You are going to make people think it is fine to behave that way. God made Eve as a companion for Adam. He made a woman for a man. He did not make a man for a man. He did not give Adam a choice between a man or a woman. He made a woman period. God flooded the Earth because they were acting homosexual. So take this forum down. or change it.

People like YOU, is the reason Christianity is bashed so much, and is also one of the reasons many, like my self, have become atheist.

your bible says "love thy neighbour" Jesus said to "love one another".
Your not doing a good job following "gods word"

WHERE, in the bible did Jesus say homosexuality is wrong, or a sin?

I never once said I hate gays. I hate what they do. I have good friends who are lesbian and atheist. So you are atheist. Tell me why? Because you want to do what you want? Because you don't want to be told what to do? You think someone caring enough to die for you is a load of bullshit? I pity you. Why should I need to support myself with verses? I grew up in church. I have had this stuff read to me countless times to know it easily. But if you want proof here it is.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, NOR HOMOSEXUALS, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

If you plan to follow that Levitical law you better follow all of them, so no craw fish or shaving for you, among other things.

1 Cor. 6:9-10 is NASB, and is completely skewed. The original text says nothing about homosexuals.

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Col. 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another,
seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the
image of him that created him."

Psalm 19:14: "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be
acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer."

You swore. Guess you're in the same boat. ;]

[Lord Setar]

Berry4455

Temba

Berry4455

Dude your an idiot. You make some valid points on some things but your wrong on homosexuality. Listen God would have mentioned the actual reason for destroying Sodom and Gamora. Also the New Testament changed the laws. Many but not all laws were erased and are no longer valid. But homosexuality is a sin. and all sins are equal in God's eyes. It makes me mad that you post this. You are going to make people think it is fine to behave that way. God made Eve as a companion for Adam. He made a woman for a man. He did not make a man for a man. He did not give Adam a choice between a man or a woman. He made a woman period. God flooded the Earth because they were acting homosexual. So take this forum down. or change it.

People like YOU, is the reason Christianity is bashed so much, and is also one of the reasons many, like my self, have become atheist.

your bible says "love thy neighbour" Jesus said to "love one another".
Your not doing a good job following "gods word"

WHERE, in the bible did Jesus say homosexuality is wrong, or a sin?

I never once said I hate gays. I hate what they do. I have good friends who are lesbian and atheist. So you are atheist. Tell me why? Because you want to do what you want? Because you don't want to be told what to do? You think someone caring enough to die for you is a load of bullshit? I pity you. Why should I need to support myself with verses? I grew up in church. I have had this stuff read to me countless times to know it easily. But if you want proof here it is.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, NOR HOMOSEXUALS, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

We already know that you didn't read the first page, so instead of wasting our time can you please go read it?

[deadmanjay]

Berry4455

I never once said I hate gays. I hate what they do. I have good friends who are lesbian and atheist.

I'm not a bigot, I just hate what my friends are.

Berry4455

So you are atheist. Tell me why? Because you want to do what you want? Because you don't want to be told what to do? You think someone caring enough to die for you is a load of bullshit? I pity you. Why should I need to support myself with verses? I grew up in church. I have had this stuff read to me countless times to know it easily. But if you want proof here it is.

It is a shame you didnt read the first post huh? I pity you.

Berry4455

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

Acts 15 and Collosians 2, especially 2:14. Go.

Berry4455

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, NOR HOMOSEXUALS, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

If you bothered to pay attention, not all of the ENGLISH translations say this and the original translations says no such thing.

Berry4455

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Take these verses in context for crying out loud. Read at leas Romans 1:25 to get an idea of why God was punishing people. And then prove that all homosexual people of today are being punished for worshipping a false idol.

[iMystere]

Berry4455

I have read the post. I really don't care what it says. It really made me mad. Loki constantly asks for proof and so do others so I gave them proof. Now stop bashing me long enough to read the verses and we might get somewhere.

How many times must I say that you swore, which IS a sin.

[Lord Setar]

Berry4455

I have read the post. I really don't care what it says. It really made me mad. Loki constantly asks for proof and so do others so I gave them proof. Now stop bashing me long enough to read the verses and we might get somewhere.

You're lying. If you had read the first page, you would know that the verses you cited have been dealt with there. Now, if you're going to cite those verses, you need to deal with Loki's refutation of those verses on the first page. If you can't, then you are obliged to withdraw your claims immediately because the backing for your claims has already been refuted.

[deadmanjay]

Berry4455

I have read the post. I really don't care what it says. It really made me mad. Loki constantly asks for proof and so do others so I gave them proof. Now stop bashing me long enough to read the verses and we might get somewhere.

Your verses have been used and refuted before. Now, if you somehow made it past Acts 15 and Collosians 2, kindly tell me which of the other Levitical Laws that you follow.

[error-dot-tar]

Berry4455

Loki constantly asks for proof and so do others so I gave them proof.

He asks for verses other than the ones he already addressed, which you repeated.

Which shows that no, you didn't read it. You may have skimmed it at best, but you didn't read it.