Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

-Saint Rai-

Yeah but DB is a guy and posts on that account.

Who have I been speaking to, then? surprised

-Saint Rai-

Just make sure to make paragraphs in that topic biggrin Many infodumps I've read, people forget to make paragraphs.

Yeah, I got paragraphs. It won't be a wall of text.

[Neferet -House of Night-]

John Calvin

-Saint Rai-

Yeah but DB is a guy and posts on that account.

Who have I been speaking to, then? surprised

-Saint Rai-

Just make sure to make paragraphs in that topic biggrin Many infodumps I've read, people forget to make paragraphs.

Yeah, I got paragraphs. It won't be a wall of text.

If you read the siggy then you'll see who you've been talking to.


Good. Because I tend to not read walls of texts or I'll just skim them cause it hurts my eyes. >.<

[Gho the Girl]

ty_ping

-Saint Rai-

Gho the Girl

Dark Angel Rai

Gho the Girl

Saying that the works of God are done by some other power. Like the Romans incident.

Even if the Bible was written by several men is blasphemy? neutral

wut? How does that relate to what I was saying?

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And who are you and what have you done to DB? O.o

I am DB.

.....I dunno. I'm just now starting to wake up >.<


LIES! Why would DB go to an actual church?

Because when DB first came to this thread... What was that now? 2 years ago?... S(he) was a fallen christian trying to make amends between His(er) life and the policies of the church.

And DB, I'm gonna toss you back on that policy I have going with Poe. I met you as a Male and until I meet you with tits, I'm gonna keep using the Male... posessive.. thinggies.

Works fine for me. 3nodding I'm generally loose with that sort of thing anyway. Some take pronouns very seriously, and I'm serious about their pronouns, but it isn't so much for me, so don't feel serious about my pronouns.

[Gho the Girl]

ty_ping

Gho the Girl

linaloki

Gho the Girl

John Calvin

Gho the Girl

Heyo Christians. This sunday I'll be going to a church for the actual service for the first time in oooooo around 7 or 8 years. I'm an oathbreaker. And I'm uncertain, but depending upon your definition of "blasphemy against the holy spirit" I've committed that too.

I was invited to attend the service by this local community church.

What think you all?

And what would you define "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" as?

Saying that the works of God are done by some other power. Like the Romans incident.

I'd say that's still at most blasphemy against God.

Oh, ok. It's just that different people tell me different things, so it's hard for me to tell who to believe. But I'm still technically an oathbreaker, so I dunno. These days, if I need to enter a church for something (like yesterday, I was helping with a screening of "Anyone and Everyone, highly recommended for those of y'all who are Christian and struggling with how to accept a child, spouse, or other person who is lgbt) I pray to YHVH to ask his forgiveness for the transgression of His space.

Or you could just ask forgiveness/release from your oath.

I mean even within Cathlocism your oath cannot be taken until you're 12.

I was baptised through immersion around 12 or 13.

And I dunno if I deserve forgiveness. I was really shitty to God. I didn't leave for any valid reason whatsoever. I got pissed at certain followers, and through also hanging around with a spiritually bad crowd, I just up and left. Pretty much ran away from home.

I don't want to ask for anything, as honestly, I'm not worthy of anything. If God wishes to forgive me himself, that is fine, but I don't feel worthy of asking for it.

[Gho the Girl]

John Calvin

-Saint Rai-

Yeah but DB is a guy and posts on that account.

Who have I been speaking to, then? surprised

it's in my siggy emo

[Yoru Kurosawa]

DB, I'm pretty sure that God, being the way He is, will forgive you because you KNOW you've done wrong, and you're repentant for it.

Of course, that's me trying to speak Christian here... All I know about God is what I read from other people. Nothing more.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

Gho the Girl

it's in my siggy emo

Don't be sad! gonk

To be honest, I never paid attention to your signature. That would've helped me out a lot. Haha! I would see you typing like this, and then I'd see you typing with italics. I was thinking, "Why is Gho the Girl typing like that?" Now that I actually paid attention to your signature, I look back and see why. xp

Yoru Kurosawa

DB, I'm pretty sure that God, being the way He is, will forgive you because you KNOW you've done wrong, and you're repentant for it.

"Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will freely pardon. 'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord" (Isa. 55:6-8 ).

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" (Matt. 11:28-30).

heart

[Neferet -House of Night-]

Yoru Kurosawa

DB, I'm pretty sure that God, being the way He is, will forgive you because you KNOW you've done wrong, and you're repentant for it.

Of course, that's me trying to speak Christian here... All I know about God is what I read from other people. Nothing more.

3nodding You're pretty much right.

[Lord Setar]

DharmaPebble

If you are worried about your ultimate destination, first seek salvation, then afterwards learn exactly how you should live your life in Christ.

Am I the only one who noticed the insinuation here? Is it just me, or is he doing this in order to distance himself from Loki and make it easier to dismiss Loki's proof?

[Neferet -House of Night-]

Lord Setar

DharmaPebble

If you are worried about your ultimate destination, first seek salvation, then afterwards learn exactly how you should live your life in Christ.

Am I the only one who noticed the insinuation here? Is it just me, or is he doing this in order to distance himself from Loki and make it easier to dismiss Loki's proof?

You probably are. But he fails to see that we all have free will. There are different versions of an afterlife.

[Gho the Girl]

John Calvin

Gho the Girl

it's in my siggy emo

Don't be sad! gonk

To be honest, I never paid attention to your signature. That would've helped me out a lot. Haha! I would see you typing like this, and then I'd see you typing with italics. I was thinking, "Why is Gho the Girl typing like that?" Now that I actually paid attention to your signature, I look back and see why. xp

Yoru Kurosawa

DB, I'm pretty sure that God, being the way He is, will forgive you because you KNOW you've done wrong, and you're repentant for it.

"Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will freely pardon. 'For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,' declares the Lord" (Isa. 55:6-8 ).

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" (Matt. 11:28-30).

heart

I'm repentant, but I'm unsure if I'm willing/ready to re-enter the fold. For now, I feel where I am now, sort of outside the church and Christianity is where I should be, but how I got here was totally wrong.

Sort of like I at some point need to move out of my hometown. Many people stay in their hometown, and that's very fine. But instead of leaving graciously, I kind of went on a vandalism stint and then left without telling anyone sweatdrop

But then, I could be wrong. I don't know. *scratches and furrows brow*

[Lord Setar]

-Saint Rai-

Lord Setar

DharmaPebble

If you are worried about your ultimate destination, first seek salvation, then afterwards learn exactly how you should live your life in Christ.

Am I the only one who noticed the insinuation here? Is it just me, or is he doing this in order to distance himself from Loki and make it easier to dismiss Loki's proof?

You probably are. But he fails to see that we all have free will. There are different versions of an afterlife.

Guy's basically insinuated that Loki's not Christian, though...except that Loki is Christian, and from how I read his opening post he makes that pretty clear by stating "I'm not trying to say that my denomination is better than yours".

Oh, and while we're on the topic of being in a church and such...I never made any sort of oath to be Christian, actually. In fact, age 12 is when I had my break with faith and moved on, first to outright atheism, then eventually into agnosticism. I have nothing against the Christian god or Jesus, however, I personally dislike styling the Christian god as "God" or giving it any sort of title because I don't follow that religion and that god is not my god. That's why, whenever talking to a Christian, I will use "your god" when referring to the Christian god. Then again, I also refer to said god as "it" because of what's said in the Bible - if YHVH is truly "the Alpha and the Omega, everything and nothing", and all that, then logically YHVH is genderless and should be referred to as an "it", not as a "he".

As for Jesus? I like the guy, and if I met him I'd shake his hand, thank him for bringing his teachings into the world, and then take him to Loki so that Loki can apologize for his fellow Christians distorting or ignoring certain parts of said teachings. In the sense of things, I consider him Rome's version of John Lennon - think about it, both of them taught love and peace, and hell, if you look at most depictions of Jesus you could put him in hippy clothes driving a repainted VW Microbus and he wouldn't look out of place in the slightest. In fact, I bet Jesus himself would probably be sickened if he came back and saw what people had done to his teachings and what people were doing in his name.

The thing with me and church services is that the proselytization part irks me. I've been to two services this year (a funeral and a memorial service), and both times I've run into aspects that are condescending and border on being outright insulting towards non-Christians. The funeral wasn't that bad, but the presiding official at the memorial made a lot of not-so-subtle hints regarding death, and also played a song called "The Gospel Train" where one verse is extremely condescending towards non-Christians. I don't mind Christians in general, but when anyone gets self-righteous like that I tend to get irked and want to recite Matthew 7:1-5 to them for trying to convert me via condescension and insult. Jesus outright said not to judge others and to open your own eyes before telling your neighbor to open theirs, and a lot of "Christians" (evangelicals and fundies in particular) ignore this when dealing with non-Christians. Probably that whole "convert by the sword" mentality, but if you're going to be condescending towards me for my belief system, why the hell would I want to affiliate myself with you?

[Kalesti]

Berry4455

Dude your an idiot. You make some valid points on some things but your wrong on homosexuality. Listen God would have mentioned the actual reason for destroying Sodom and Gamora. Also the New Testament changed the laws. Many but not all laws were erased and are no longer valid. But homosexuality is a sin. and all sins are equal in God's eyes. It makes me mad that you post this. You are going to make people think it is fine to behave that way. God made Eve as a companion for Adam. He made a woman for a man. He did not make a man for a man. He did not give Adam a choice between a man or a woman. He made a woman period. God flooded the Earth because they were acting homosexual. So take this forum down. or change it.

Lockdown
Yeah, speaking of payment.

Normally I would let someone else reply before me, so that I don't have to try my hand at getting involved, but right now, since I'm here and there's so much wrong with your post I figure I might as well.
Sodom and Gomorrah - Loki covered that subject quite clearly in the OP. Your God did explain why they were destroyed. The lack of hospitality and near-rape of angels counts for nothing to you?
The laws - Homosexuality itself was never declared a sin. The act of male-male sex, yes, for the times of Leviticus, but never the sexuality itself. Attraction is not always who one sleeps with.
Woman for man...I'm not even going there. And next time, try to support yourself because you need proof for everything you said before someone here will believe you.

And this is based off of my more limited knowledge. I'm a rookie here. =|

I'm gonna need mine first.