Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[Leucrotta]

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Another argument what I've heard often is that they're not "natural". Ergo: It wouldn't exist in nature, so it shouldn't with humans. Can someone perhaps explain this to the two male lions living together in one of my country's zoo's?

Um... okay. The lions living together... ae just in the same habitat. O__o; Right? Because the only things that animals ever do that could be misconstrued as 'homosexual' are when dominant males sort of... to put it nicely... 'hump' the subservient males. This is a dominance thing. Animals do not have sex for any reason other than reproduction, since it gives them no pleasure. The exception is dolphins, but I've never heard of any homosexual dolphins.

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

[Reinharted]

Leucrotta

In my line of thinking, which to me is God's line of thinking, this is a sin.

Imposing your views as God's views? Isn't that making up sins or blasphemy or something? wink

Leucrotta

Then again, so is stealing. So ir rape, murder, incest, etc.

Problem. Those do harm. Having sex with the same sex does not do such when done right....or wrong...depends on how dirty it is. wink

Leucrotta

But we don't always kill those people, so then gays can exist in the sense that they are allowed to live.

Oh thank you! I didn't know we're allowed to live, but not live life. rolleyes

Leucrotta

There is a huge forgotten concept in the Bible. 'Love the sinner, hate the sin'.

That phrase isn't anywhere in the bible. In fact, it was someone from the Catholic church that came up with that.

Leucrotta

I personally practice this as well as I can. I think it's pertinent here.

Except, it's not. You're making up a sin. You've also not read the first or second post. 3nodding

[Cougar Draven]

Leucrotta

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Another argument what I've heard often is that they're not "natural". Ergo: It wouldn't exist in nature, so it shouldn't with humans. Can someone perhaps explain this to the two male lions living together in one of my country's zoo's?

Um... okay. The lions living together... ae just in the same habitat. O__o; Right? Because the only things that animals ever do that could be misconstrued as 'homosexual' are when dominant males sort of... to put it nicely... 'hump' the subservient males. This is a dominance thing. Animals do not have sex for any reason other than reproduction, since it gives them no pleasure. The exception is dolphins, but I've never heard of any homosexual dolphins.

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Okay, who has the list?

[linaloki]

Leucrotta

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Another argument what I've heard often is that they're not "natural". Ergo: It wouldn't exist in nature, so it shouldn't with humans. Can someone perhaps explain this to the two male lions living together in one of my country's zoo's?

Um... okay. The lions living together... ae just in the same habitat. O__o; Right? Because the only things that animals ever do that could be misconstrued as 'homosexual' are when dominant males sort of... to put it nicely... 'hump' the subservient males. This is a dominance thing. Animals do not have sex for any reason other than reproduction, since it gives them no pleasure. The exception is dolphins, but I've never heard of any homosexual dolphins.

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Actually, there are several hundreds of species of animal that have homosexual sex, some mating for life.

[Leucrotta]

You've prayed about it? Honestly?

Well, then I'll be honest. I don't know what to say there. I am, after all, only a Christian of four years.

In that case, He must be showing us two different things.

I don't know why... I can't speak for Him...


And on the KJV subject, I hadn't heard that. I apologize.

[Reinharted]

Leucrotta

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Funny, it is natural. And according to you, fabulous man on man sex is okay because they have sticks and holes. wink

But don't worry, I'm sure if you repent now, God will forgive you for using a computer. biggrin

[Yilanti Midnight]

Leucrotta

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Another argument what I've heard often is that they're not "natural". Ergo: It wouldn't exist in nature, so it shouldn't with humans. Can someone perhaps explain this to the two male lions living together in one of my country's zoo's?

Um... okay. The lions living together... ae just in the same habitat. O__o; Right? Because the only things that animals ever do that could be misconstrued as 'homosexual' are when dominant males sort of... to put it nicely... 'hump' the subservient males. This is a dominance thing. Animals do not have sex for any reason other than reproduction, since it gives them no pleasure. The exception is dolphins, but I've never heard of any homosexual dolphins.

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Me: Lion males usually don't accept each other's presence. One males plus all the females usually. But not this time.

Chew on that. wink

[Leucrotta]

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Okay, who has the list?

... What list? :0 I ddin't mention a list...

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Funny, it is natural. And according to you, fabulous man on man sex is okay because they have sticks and holes.

I think you know what I meant... Not that hole... -___-;

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Actually, there are several hundreds of species of animal that have homosexual sex, some mating for life.

And... which ones are these?

[Yilanti Midnight]

Reinharted

Leucrotta

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Funny, it is natural. And according to you, fabulous man on man sex is okay because they have sticks and holes. wink

But don't worry, I'm sure if you repent now, God will forgive you for using a computer. biggrin

Me: xD I'm using a laptop though, will God hate me now?

[Leucrotta]

Yilanti Maydow

Leucrotta

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Another argument what I've heard often is that they're not "natural". Ergo: It wouldn't exist in nature, so it shouldn't with humans. Can someone perhaps explain this to the two male lions living together in one of my country's zoo's?

Um... okay. The lions living together... ae just in the same habitat. O__o; Right? Because the only things that animals ever do that could be misconstrued as 'homosexual' are when dominant males sort of... to put it nicely... 'hump' the subservient males. This is a dominance thing. Animals do not have sex for any reason other than reproduction, since it gives them no pleasure. The exception is dolphins, but I've never heard of any homosexual dolphins.

And it isn't natural. If it was, then we'd all have a 'stick' and a 'hole'. x__x;

Me: Lion males usually don't accept each other's presence. One males plus all the females usually. But not this time.

Chew on that. wink

I've seen plenty of cases of African lions where two males roam together for long periods of time before finding their own prides. If those lions have no females, then it makes sense they'd use each other's company. In a plutonic way, of course. I don't want words put in my mouth...

[Reinharted]

Leucrotta

You've prayed about it? Honestly?

I've tried hard in the past to be straight. God made me gay, and intends for me to be gay. Why? Perhaps to get a broader view and test me. To see if I can still remain faithfull inspite of all the hatred and dispise disguised as "love".

Leucrotta

In that case, He must be showing us two different things.

One is love, one is spiritual discrimination based upon who is loved. (And no one is harmed by it. Covering this just incase it's brought up about child-molestors or zoophiles. They aren't the same thing as there's nothing consensual there.) Care to guess which is which?

[linaloki]

Leucrotta

You've prayed about it? Honestly?

Well, then I'll be honest. I don't know what to say there. I am, after all, only a Christian of four years.

In that case, He must be showing us two different things.

I don't know why... I can't speak for Him...


And on the KJV subject, I hadn't heard that. I apologize.

Yes, I've prayed on it. And I may not be the greatest Christian in the world, but I try to follow His Word. It may help if you try to free yourself from the teachings of churches and immerse yourself in His Word, as I've attempted to do. Not to say I have been completely successful, but one day I hope to be.

And as for the KJV, I was under the same mistake long ago. Its bad rep comes from the Textus Receptus, if you wanna look that up.

[Reinharted]

Leucrotta

I think you know what I meant... Not that hole... -___-;

Then why did God make the prostate so easily exciteable?

Leucrotta

And... which ones are these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Here you go! =D

[linaloki]

Leucrotta

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Actually, there are several hundreds of species of animal that have homosexual sex, some mating for life.

And... which ones are these?

That's the aforementioned list... *sigh* I'll go dig it up.

Edit: Thank you, Rein! I was going to dig through Elfy's thread and attempt to locate it.

[Leucrotta]

Reinharted

Leucrotta

You've prayed about it? Honestly?

I've tried hard in the past to be straight. God made me gay, and intends for me to be gay. Why? Perhaps to get a broader view and test me. To see if I can still remain faithfull inspite of all the hatred and dispise disguised as "love".

Leucrotta

In that case, He must be showing us two different things.

One is love, one is spiritual discrimination based upon who is loved. (And no one is harmed by it. Covering this just incase it's brought up about child-molestors or zoophiles. They aren't the same thing as there's nothing consensual there.) Care to guess which is which?

For the first comment: My Uncle Johnny was a gay man. Everyone knew it. He lusted after men. However, once he became a Chirstian, he never did so again. He resisted. He won. So... I think it can happen... Everyone is born with temptations.

And to the second one, I'm not only loving certain people. I try and love everyone how God intends. I just don't love what sinners do, and wish they would change.