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Alethiometer
.....How many times are you gonna make this thread, loki?
While I have the utmost respect for your thorough argument and analysis, how many times are you gonna say the same things and watch people make the same arguments?
Theres a reason the old threads got sent to the chatterbox.


The masses, they only learn though Repetition. If we wish to teach, we must repeat.
 
     
Freedom

Is Overrated.
 
There was some obscure verse in the Bible that said that men were doing unlawful things with men. Homosexuality, no?
     
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`Fury
There was some obscure verse in the Bible that said that men were doing unlawful things with men. Homosexuality, no?

If you're referring to Leviticus, that same passage tells you not to shave, eat shellfish or pork, or wear mixed fabrics.

Quickly now, everyone check the tags of your clothing (yes, this includes undergarments!), and state how many use multiple fiber types!
 
     
Sanity is subjective.

 
It's my opinion that homsexuality is proof that we as a species are superior in that we can overcome our instinctual urge to procreate and intead make love with someone the same sex.

Getting anally ******** is no picnic. It must be love.
     
`Fury
There was some obscure verse in the Bible that said that men were doing unlawful things with men. Homosexuality, no?
Shall we discuss the applicability of obscure verses?
 
     
 
Saltski Circe
strawlaberry
Reinharted
Denzyz
Wow..think of it. Y'know those lil bits of woods people say are splinters off the cross Jesus was crucified on? What if they were all gathered together, examined, and there was blood on one or some? They could take the blood, and clone Jesus...

But if its like Jurassic Park..wouldn't he change his sex? Imagine..Jesus with breasts... burning_eyes


Jesus can't be a woman! It's blasphemey as women are weaker in all forms, even faith! That's why you need to lock them up in the house to prevent them from becoming witches. 3nodding


WHAT??????????!!!!!!! evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil scream scream scream scream scream scream evil evil evil evil evil evil

you know, some great peeps, like mother theresa were stronger in faith then men!!!!! evil evil


Lady, chill.

He was being sarcastic and poking fun at sexism.

Really, please. Just...you just need to leave. I'm sorry, but if you can't even take a joke....


yeah, sarcasm doesn't work on computer stuff.... *sigh* i was just bored...
     
"I don't think I'm hot or cool or anything, just a dork."
-Ashley Olsen
She really knows how to put things into words. Really now, who else would be able to admit that? Ok so maybe anyone could say it. Goodbye now person. Or are you an alien?!?!?!

what is loki?
 
     
I quit Gaia
Did you miss me?
 
Shennanigans
None of these contradictions are at all important.


Justify this.
     
Alethiometer
.....How many times are you gonna make this thread, loki?
While I have the utmost respect for your thorough argument and analysis, how many times are you gonna say the same things and watch people make the same arguments?
Theres a reason the old threads got sent to the chatterbox.


This isn't a new thread honey. Its title has been changed to better reflect its subject matter.
 
     
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A new resource for the transgendered community. Friendly to nonbinary.

On hiatus due to difficult grad work and job and transition and whatnot. >.<
 
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`Fury
There was some obscure verse in the Bible that said that men were doing unlawful things with men. Homosexuality, no?

If you're referring to Leviticus, that same passage tells you not to shave, eat shellfish or pork, or wear mixed fabrics.

Quickly now, everyone check the tags of your clothing (yes, this includes undergarments!), and state how many use multiple fiber types!
OH MAH GAWD, AH'M GOIN' TAH SHEOL!

...oh wait, I was headed there to begin with.
     
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loverofdolphins823
what is loki?
Loki is a member of the Norse Pantheon. He is known for his mischief and his animosity with Thor, I believe.
 
     
I hate chickens.

Psychoanalyse that, b***h. And yes, you know who you are. I WILL find you.
 
`Fury
There was some obscure verse in the Bible that said that men were doing unlawful things with men. Homosexuality, no?
Because, as we all know, gang warfare is over which ones have the best fashion sense right? stare
     
Your first quote is wrong, because first of all, that part of chapter is recaping what it said in the first chapter.
 
     
 
Taineyah
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

(a) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)

(b) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)


While you ponder that question, let me ask, Who is guilty for the murder of King Duncan of Scotland in the story, The Tragedy of Macbeth? Is it William Shakespeare, or Macbeth? This question, I say, is an important one, if we should understand the providence of God. These verses are complementary. Your attempt here is to say that the former says that God incited King David, while the latter says it was Satan. It is curious as to why you think that the name "Satan" in this verse is referring to an actual, spiritual being, and simply not a person or nation against King David. Did the Jews have this concept at the time? We may consider Numbers 22:22, which says,

"But God was very angry when [Balaam] went, and the angel of YHVH stood in the road to oppose [שטן, satan] him. Balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him."

But, what about 1 Chronicles 21:1?

"Satan [שטן, satan] rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel."

Other renderings: "Satan" (NIV); "Satan" (NASB); "SATAN [an adversary]" (Amplified Bible); "Satan" (KJV); "Satan" (ESV); "Satan" (NKJV); "adversary" (YLT)

The actual rendering is the Amplified Bible and the Young's Literal Translation, because there is no definite article ha connected to satan. The Hebrew is simply satan, and thus, the rendering would read, "A satan," or, in accurate translations, "An adversary." Now, returning to my question I asked above, if we understand that God is in control of all things, that is, He is sovereign, and that nothing occurs without His deliberation, then there is no reason to think that God is not acting on both parts. Furthermore, the word satan does not necessarily have to refer to a personal entity. For example, Jesus calls Peter, "Satan" (Matt. 16:23; cf. Mark 8:3). Peter is a personal entity, but the title given to him is not. It would simply mean that Peter was acting in opposition to God's decree. Of course, in the NT era, Satan was actually a personal, spiritual being (see Matt. 4:10).

Taineyah
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

(b) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)

(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)


Since the two verses in the first supposed contradiction and the second are simply the same thing, but only being asked on certain areas of the verses, I will deal with both here.

"Joab reported to the king the number of of the people that had been recorded: in Israel there were 800,000 soldiers ready to draw the sword, and the men of Judah numbered 500,000" (2 Sam. 24:9; JPS).

"Joab reported to David the number of the people that had been recorded. All Israel comprised 1,100,000 ready to draw to the sword, while in Judah there were 470,000 men ready to draw the sword" (1 Chron. 21:5; JPS).

Are these two accounts actually contradictions? I'd have to say hardly. Take note that in 2 Samuel 24:9, that it says, "in Israel," whereas in 1 Chronicles 21:5, it says, "All Israel." There is a difference. While the verses appear to be contradictory and difficult to make complementary, it is actually quite the opposite. Moreover, the Septuagint (LXX; Greek version of the Old Testament) writes, πας Ισραηλ (pas Israēl; "All Israel" wink . As for Judah, 2 Samuel records "500,000," while 1 Chronicles records "470,000." How do we resolve this issue? Consider verse six, which says, "He did not record among them Levi and Benjamin, because the king's command had become repugnant to Joab."

Taineyah
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)

(b) Three (I Chronicles 21:12)


The natural choice would be three years, not seven, since the months and days follow as "three," not "seven." I would have to say that this was probably a copyist error, as the Septuagint does not render the word "seven," which would be επτα (hepta). Instead, the Septuagint uses the word τρια (tria; "three" wink .

I suppose I'll write more later. This is taking too long, and I have other things to read and respond to.
     
"Most men ebb and flow in wretchedness between the fear of death and the hardships of life; they are unwilling to live, and yet they do not know how to die." Seneca the Younger

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