Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: What Christ Said And More

[No No Raja]

Loki, if you're interested I posted a little mini-blurb on my thoughts of the Bible and how it can be classified as more valuable to literature. I don't know if it'll help you, but it's something I studied and found interesting and I thought you might like to take a look at it.

[JumpingJebediah]

Saltski Circe

Kaskade Khaos

Denzyz

Kaskade Khaos

[-insert unneeded and idiotic condescending comments here-]

You made a comment about animals suddenly being clean and about how ridiculous it is. God allowed them to eat certain animals, because people learned to cook and kill the bacteria in the animals. Now, please give me your reply to that. I want your thoughts. Think you can do it?

Ok, I've an idea here. Cite the exact verse where god allowed people to start eating certain animals. Then, find out what time period that verse was written. My guess is, it will be waaaaaaaaaaay back in history. And y'know what? Actually cooking your food to kill bacteria is a relatively new thing. I'm pretty sure they didn't even know what bacterii were back then.

It makes more sense to say that god suddenly declared the foods 'clean' than it does to say that ancient people learned how to properly cook food to kill off bacterii and germs, to ward off disease/food poisoning.

I've got an idea too! Leave this to me and Loki. God had reasons. His existeance is not the same as yours. They could cook it, they probably just didn't know about becteria. The bible doesn't tell EVERYTHING God did. A new thing? LOL! Sure it is. I don't have a bible with me, but it was a verse saying something a long the lines of...

'You can not eat animals with hooves.' It's in there.

....That only proves her point, you know that?

At any rate, "God" is not the one who wrote the Bible. Man is. The gospels are the only thing I take as even CLOSE to historically accurate, and even that's probably been ******** up with the telling and retelling orally of Jesus's story.

The Bible as a historical and literary piece? Sure. I can buy that.

But I'm not taking its word as God's Word.

Of course, I defected from Christianity about four-five years ago and became humanist. So I guess it's a bad thing to take the word of a heathen former Catholic who has actually had experience with this.

No, I sad some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

[SukiKoi]

Kaskade Khaos

No, I sad some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

[JumpingJebediah]

linaloki

Kaskade Khaos

linaloki

Kaskade Khaos

Lol.... you still don't get it...


If you do not get it this time, there is no hope for you.


Here we go, nice and slow...

Ready?

You made a comment about animals suddenly being clean and about how ridiculous it is. God allowed them to eat certain animals, because people learned to cook and kill the bacteria in the animals. Now, please give me your reply to that. I want your thoughts. Think you can do it?

You're failing at not being a moron and hypocrite.

I already said I agree with that. When I said, "Look! They're clean!" I was referring to the fact that the animals were considered unclean in Leviticus, and then in Acts, God said, "Call nothing I create unclean." This is most likely due to the fact that they could prepare things properly at that point.

You still haven't shown me where I've altered the Word of God.

No you said. "Oh, so suddenly they are clean now..." Now you are changing your words. I never said you completely altered his words. Some of the words are not exact. Thus, they could be misiunterperted. And again! I do not have my bible with me.

...that's because God said, on the fly, all of the sudden, to Peter's suprise, "Hey! Buddy! The animals are a-okay to eat! They're clean! Call 'em dirty and I'll smite you!"

I'm not changing my message. Who cares if I change my words slightly and the same meaning gets across? And, yeah. Some of the words aren't exact. A translation is never going to be exact, including your JW Bible, which is even less exact than most. That doesn't mean things are misinterpreted. That means they're interpreted as best as they can be.

Now you are saying the JW bible is incorrect without reading it. You are being hypocritical. If you go on like this, there is no hope for you. Yeah, cooking. They can eat it now. What's the problem there? There was no food. God would just let you starve. He could have cleansed the animals too. Nothing is indefinite. Rules can change. You are acting ridiculous.

[JumpingJebediah]

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

[SukiKoi]

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

[JumpingJebediah]

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

What? You make no sense. It's in the bible. Oh yeah sure. Different people who knew nothing of eachother over a 1500 year period, just HAPPENED to write about the same thing, not contradicting itself. Yeah, that's a nice theory.

[linaloki]

Kaskade Khaos

Now you are saying the JW bible is incorrect without reading it. You are being hypocritical. If you go on like this, there is no hope for you. Yeah, cooking. They can eat it now. What's the problem there? There was no food. God would just let you starve. He could have cleansed the animals too. Nothing is indefinite. Rules can change. You are acting ridiculous.

I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH THE COOKING THING. How many times will I have to say that before you'll read it?

Secondly, I haven't read the entire JW Bible, no. However, I have read numerous key verses, as well as the Watchtower Magazine. I've read enough to find that I disagree with the translations given, especially with John 1:1.

[No No Raja]

Kaskade Khaos

No, I sad some animals. It proves my point.

Do you enjoy filet mingnon, bacon, hamburgers, pork, or any other creature that "has hooves?"

....Wait...I hear something....what is it?

Oh, right. It's God weeping.

Kaskade Khaos

God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him.

Proof.

Also; if you are saying rules can change, then why can the rule not change on homosexuality?

[SukiKoi]

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

What? You make no sense. It's in the bible. Oh yeah sure. Different people who knew nothing of eachother over a 1500 year period, just HAPPENED to write about the same thing, not contradicting itself. Yeah, that's a nice theory.

Oh just because its in the bible dosnt make it true....

Grow up..

[JumpingJebediah]

Saltski Circe

Kaskade Khaos

No, I sad some animals. It proves my point.

Do you enjoy filet mingnon, bacon, hamburgers, pork, or any other creature that "has hooves?"

....Wait...I hear something....what is it?

Oh, right. It's God weeping.

Kaskade Khaos

God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him.

Proof.

Also; if you are saying rules can change, then why can the rule not change on homosexuality?

Lol! It was a guess, it went something like that, I wasn't certain, read before you quote. And if it was, it changed. Maybe he didn't decide to change his rules on homosexuality!? Gasp! surprised

[JumpingJebediah]

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

What? You make no sense. It's in the bible. Oh yeah sure. Different people who knew nothing of eachother over a 1500 year period, just HAPPENED to write about the same thing, not contradicting itself. Yeah, that's a nice theory.

Oh just because its in the bible dosnt make it true....

Grow up..

ROFL! Then what are you doing here? Sure, we were born from a pit of tar. Then... POOF! Human! :O

[JumpingJebediah]

linaloki

Kaskade Khaos

Now you are saying the JW bible is incorrect without reading it. You are being hypocritical. If you go on like this, there is no hope for you. Yeah, cooking. They can eat it now. What's the problem there? There was no food. God would just let you starve. He could have cleansed the animals too. Nothing is indefinite. Rules can change. You are acting ridiculous.

I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH THE COOKING THING. How many times will I have to say that before you'll read it?

Secondly, I haven't read the entire JW Bible, no. However, I have read numerous key verses, as well as the Watchtower Magazine. I've read enough to find that I disagree with the translations given, especially with John 1:1.

That's because you have been misguided, I cannot help you. Your opinion, I was just giving mine, and you attack. :O

[Taineyah]

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

What? You make no sense. It's in the bible. Oh yeah sure. Different people who knew nothing of eachother over a 1500 year period, just HAPPENED to write about the same thing, not contradicting itself. Yeah, that's a nice theory.

Oh just because its in the bible dosnt make it true....

Grow up..

ROFL! Then what are you doing here? Sure, we were born from a pit of tar. Then... POOF! Human! :O

Actually, it was more like "group of molecules forms circle in ocean" then "group of molecules begins producing proteins and so forth" then "group of molecules (called a cell now) joins up with other cells to form a multi celled aquatic organism" then the organsims became progressively more and more complex, eventually turning into humans.

No tar involved. Tar is actually thoroughly toxic to the largest proportion of life forms.

[Taineyah]

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

SukiKoi

Kaskade Khaos

No, I said some animals. It proves my point. God gave them his word, and they wrote it for him. Jeez, this isn't the laws of physics and the human mind we are talking about here. Anything is possible!

How do you know what god told them wink

Because how else would they know of God. All christians teach that. It's GOD! No, God just said, "Write whatever the ******** you want."

But you can't know that god said those exact words.
You can't know that god said anything.

What? You make no sense. It's in the bible. Oh yeah sure. Different people who knew nothing of eachother over a 1500 year period, just HAPPENED to write about the same thing, not contradicting itself. Yeah, that's a nice theory.

Except that the bible is riddled with internal contradictions. Try not to use ideas that are easily disproven as your proof, okay, sweetie?