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I'd like to dedicate this thread to the thread in which we all know and love, this one. And fpor the record, I'm not saying men have it worse, we obviously don't.

We may not know the entire idea behind feminism, so I will give you an idea. Up until the 1920's women were almost always considered inferior. They were property, they were used as mares for business agreements between 2 kingdoms and laws to protect them were non-existent. The feminist movements never gained a lot of steam until, Congress passed Amendment 19. Which allowed women to vote. After that in the 1920's, the culture of women started to change drastically, they started to expose their legs, swimsuits became skimpy, they started to have jobs, they were allowed to smoke, they could cut their hair short and wear pants. They had a lot compared to the traditional woman. They were comfortable with that and they couldn't be blamed. Then after World War 2, people developed an ideology of family values which involved the man having a job and the women, taking care of the kids, taking care of the household and pleasing her husband at demand. When the baby boomers of the female sex saw the stress women faced, they formed the feminist movement to change that.


The rights women had back then were nowhere near the rights women today have now. The problem isn't in my opinion that women have inequality, it's that women don't know how to be equal to men. Being a man means you are strong, persistent, creative, competitive and can face their problems head on. I'm not saying women can't be like that, but women have been so traditionally inferior to men, that the women today have been conditioned to not take the initiative and not get ahead in life. This is why p***y can describe coward and v****a at the same time. Because most women don't have a mental ballsack. They don't take their problems head on and I will explain why.

Workplace equality
Many women complain about being paid less and strangely enough, the opportunity for them to get ahead is there. More women get into college than men and yet they end up with lower paying this in part is due to the fact that masculine jobs tend to pay more than feminine jobs. An airline pilot gets paid more than a flight attendant, a brain surgeon gets paid more than a nurse, a politician gets paid more than a secretary. It's not that women are less likely to get that job, it's just that women don't pursue those jobs as often. Being a student pilot, I learned that for every woman in the class, there were 50 men. They don't pursue the more lucrative jobs. In the business world, the number of male businessmen outweighs the number of businesswomen by a stronger margin. That's not because men are favored, it's because women don't seem to under the politics of capitalism. It's called survival of the fittest. You have to be a d**k and take risks to get ahead in the business world. Invest and try to take out the competition because for as long as competition is there, you will make less money.

Rape
Though it's true that women get raped more often than men, men get murdered more often than women, but you hardly hear us complaining about it. We as men can only do so much to protect you from rape. It's a first degree felony, they get no probation, the police take it seriously, you can get a restraining order, it's 15 to life. We have done all that we can to make rape occur less often. Now it's your turn to take initiative. When a man gets slugged at a bar, he fights back. When a woman gets raped, she stays there for 10 minutes and showers off the evidence like a moron. We can't help you if you are getting raped. The only person who can help you is yourself. Take defense classes, work out (You won't end up with muscles that make you look like a steroid lesbian. I promise), get a knife, pepperspray or handgun and keep it in your purse and if you do get raped, call the police.

Domestic abuse
This one should be a no-brainer. Many women are victims of domestic abuse. Be it physical, mental or sexual. No matter what the kind of abuse is, you leave him. If he has a problem with that, call the police. Just because domestic abuse happens, does not mean you can't do something about it. If you have nowhere to go, well that's kind of your problem, especially if you decided not to get a job or education if such a thing were to happen. Life isn't filled with second chances. It is filled with risks, rewards and regrets, but hardly any second chances. To be successful, you must be willing to cut people out of your life. You may have respect for them, but if they abuse you, they have no respect for you and they deserve none coming out of you.

Politics
The majority of politicians are male and yet half of the eligible voters are female. This leads to a question. Why aren't there more women in politics? Because women don't pursue aggressively. Yeah there may be bad stereotypes about women, but you could easily get half of the voters to side with you because you share a chromosomal similarity between them. Hillary Clinton almost became president and there are many women who are in congressmen.

Anyway
TL;DR, if women want to have rights that men have, then they should act like men to obtain those rights.


And before you shitstorm and complain about how you can't, then you just admitted to the biggest difference between men and women. Attitude.
I do, I do have one question: How... um, how to word this... How do murdered men submit a complaint, um... like to who? I'd like to report my own murder and uh... start a movement or um, man that doesn't make sense, or something, like a support group thing.
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I do, I do have one question: How... um, how to word this... How do murdered men submit a complaint, um... like to who? I'd like to report my own murder and uh... start a movement or um, man that doesn't make sense, or something, like a support group thing.

Families of homicide victims could advocate awareness.
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I do, I do have one question: How... um, how to word this... How do murdered men submit a complaint, um... like to who? I'd like to report my own murder and uh... start a movement or um, man that doesn't make sense, or something, like a support group thing.

Families of homicide victims could advocate awareness.
Don't they do that already? I'm confused, victims of rape come together and are sorrowful at the process, the murdered ( the actual recipients of the crime ) are a little too stiff to participate, tons of people advocate against homicide and rape or did I miss something and only rape gets attention and homicide is widely ignored?

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Why should women have to act like men? Why can't men just be nicer like women?
"Why should men change themselves to accomodate women?"
Good point! Let's get rid of the double-standards first and then talk.
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I do, I do have one question: How... um, how to word this... How do murdered men submit a complaint, um... like to who? I'd like to report my own murder and uh... start a movement or um, man that doesn't make sense, or something, like a support group thing.

Families of homicide victims could advocate awareness.
Don't they do that already? I'm confused, victims of rape come together and are sorrowful at the process, the murdered ( the actual recipients of the crime ) are a little too stiff to participate, tons of people advocate against homicide and rape or did I miss something and only rape gets attention and homicide is widely ignored?

To me, it seems homicide gets widely ignored. Maybe it was a bad example.

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Rape
Though it's true that women get raped more often than men, men get murdered more often than women, but you hardly hear us complaining about it. We as men can only do so much to protect you from rape. It's a first degree felony, they get no probation, the police take it seriously, you can get a restraining order, it's 15 to life. We have done all that we can to make rape occur less often. Now it's your turn to take initiative. When a man gets slugged at a bar, he fights back. When a woman gets raped, she stays there for 10 minutes and showers off the evidence like a moron. We can't help you if you are getting raped. The only person who can help you is yourself. Take defense classes, work out (You won't end up with muscles that make you look like a steroid lesbian. I promise), get a knife, pepperspray or handgun and keep it in your purse and if you do get raped, call the police.


Politics
The majority of politicians are male and yet half of the eligible voters are female. This leads to a question. Why aren't there more women in politics? Because women don't pursue aggressively. Yeah there may be bad stereotypes about women, but you could easily get half of the voters to side with you because you share a chromosomal similarity between them. Hillary Clinton almost became president and there are many women who are in congressmen.


wow, your knowledge of history is crap.

But anyway:

a. Women are often treated badly when they report a rape to the police. In some cities, their rape kits (if they get one) aren't ever analyzed. In Baltimore, the detectives, frequently decide that it wasn't really rape at all and close the case.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-rape-audit-begins-20100708,0,2352284.story


Very few women vote for someone just because she's a women. The Republican made that mistake with Sarah Palin. I supported Hillary Clinton because she had the best health care reform ideas but there would be no way I would every vote for Palin and I"m sure Palin supporters would never cote for Clinton.
Lumnata is going to b***h. Can't wait to see you rip off her head.
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I do, I do have one question: How... um, how to word this... How do murdered men submit a complaint, um... like to who? I'd like to report my own murder and uh... start a movement or um, man that doesn't make sense, or something, like a support group thing.

Families of homicide victims could advocate awareness.
Don't they do that already? I'm confused, victims of rape come together and are sorrowful at the process, the murdered ( the actual recipients of the crime ) are a little too stiff to participate, tons of people advocate against homicide and rape or did I miss something and only rape gets attention and homicide is widely ignored?

To me, it seems homicide gets widely ignored. Maybe it was a bad example.
How about instead of homicide you go with the unfairness of the Divorce System. You'll have much more luck.
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Why should women have to act like men? Why can't men just be nicer like women?
"Why should men change themselves to accomodate women?"
Good point! Let's get rid of the double-standards first and then talk.

Because if a woman acts like a woman, they wil;l never get ahead. Part of being human is competition and doing things for ourselves. If someone feminizes a boy, he will fail at life. If someone makes a woman more masculine, then she can very well succeed at life.
I imagine women get upset about rape because it happens at all, not because they feel screwed over by the justice system with regards to it.

Men can be victims of domestic abuse and be unaware of it - the double standards related to this are quite jarring. However, you can't merely say "Leave him" like its no biggie, or indeed leave her, because clearly what you and I see as a no-brainer others see as a HUGE dilemma.

I can't imagine the horror of suddenly discovering the person you love is abusive, though I'd like to think I'd leave. I have no problem with threads like this until they disolve into a bitching fest between butthurt man children and angry feminazis.

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Kokoro Spirit
Why should women have to act like men? Why can't men just be nicer like women?
"Why should men change themselves to accomodate women?"
Good point! Let's get rid of the double-standards first and then talk.

Because if a woman acts like a woman, they wil;l never get ahead. Part of being human is competition and doing things for ourselves. If someone feminizes a boy, he will fail at life. If someone makes a woman more masculine, then she can very well succeed at life.


No, that's only true if you accept the male perspective as the norm (assuming you are correct that men are competitive and do things for themselves and women are not and do not).

But, as son as you say that the male behavior is "correct" or the "norm" you are being sexist.
If we have true cultural equality, both male and female characteristics are valued equally across the society.
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God Emperor Akhenaton


Rape
Though it's true that women get raped more often than men, men get murdered more often than women, but you hardly hear us complaining about it. We as men can only do so much to protect you from rape. It's a first degree felony, they get no probation, the police take it seriously, you can get a restraining order, it's 15 to life. We have done all that we can to make rape occur less often. Now it's your turn to take initiative. When a man gets slugged at a bar, he fights back. When a woman gets raped, she stays there for 10 minutes and showers off the evidence like a moron. We can't help you if you are getting raped. The only person who can help you is yourself. Take defense classes, work out (You won't end up with muscles that make you look like a steroid lesbian. I promise), get a knife, pepperspray or handgun and keep it in your purse and if you do get raped, call the police.


Politics
The majority of politicians are male and yet half of the eligible voters are female. This leads to a question. Why aren't there more women in politics? Because women don't pursue aggressively. Yeah there may be bad stereotypes about women, but you could easily get half of the voters to side with you because you share a chromosomal similarity between them. Hillary Clinton almost became president and there are many women who are in congressmen.


wow, your knowledge of history is crap.

But anyway:

a. Women are often treated badly when they report a rape to the police. In some cities, their rape kits (if they get one) aren't ever analyzed. In Baltimore, the detectives, frequently decide that it wasn't really rape at all and close the case.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-rape-audit-begins-20100708,0,2352284.story


Very few women vote for someone just because she's a women. The Republican made that mistake with Sarah Palin. I supported Hillary Clinton because she had the best health care reform ideas but there would be no way I would every vote for Palin and I"m sure Palin supporters would never cote for Clinton.

If a city does not take a rape seriously, then you can talk to the ACLU. Even if the rapist is not accused, his DNA is on file and he cannot rape again unless he wants to go to jail. And still, you have the I can't attitude.

But for politics, my stance is still very valid. People didn't like Palin because she is a woman, people hated her because she was the female version of Bush.
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I imagine women get upset about rape because it happens at all, not because they feel screwed over by the justice system with regards to it.

Men can be victims of domestic abuse and be unaware of it - the double standards related to this are quite jarring. However, you can't merely say "Leave him" like its no biggie, or indeed leave her, because clearly what you and I see as a no-brainer others see as a HUGE dilemma.

I can't imagine the horror of suddenly discovering the person you love is abusive, though I'd like to think I'd leave. I have no problem with threads like this until they disolve into a bitching fest between butthurt man children and angry feminazis.
How can you be a victim of domestic violence and not know it?
I agree witht he OP. Women need to get their heads out of their asses and work hard for a high paying job, protect temselves knowing they are at risk for rape (every woman is), Grow some balls if your man is being a p***k, etc etc.

Its like my directors in Drum and Bugle Corps say "Figure it the ******** out and make it happen. otherwise, quitcher bitchin"

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