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Christians...atheists? If your so uncomfortable and conflicted you might want to try being agnostic until you can decide. You should never rush yourself on deciding beliefs and ideals as they can play an integral part of your life. I'm an agnostic at the moment and have been for a few years, I've been looking at religion and or lack thereof through science and logic as well as philosophically.

I planning on reading The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. It's about how life is absurd and that even if there is a god it is unlikely that we humans are capable of understanding Him/her/it. Truth is impossible to find and so we must be happy with the process with the search itself or if you want to see it from another way Living.

I haven't read it yet but from excerpts and reviews it seems like something that may help, I have no right to give you advice but I'm just saying that it may or may not give you some help with forming a point of view that you can be happy with.
 
     


If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. " Mark Twain "
 
God cannot vs. Atheism.

There are atheists, and no god... you need two sides to fight.
     
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
 
     
 
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This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
     
Cherrath
Death and Misery
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
 
     
 
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
     
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
 
     
 
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
     
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
This is a misinformed look at life. There are many other options.
there are infinite options and none of them are more correct then the others
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
 
     
 
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
     
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Well, no, there are finite options. Also some are much more correct than others. Let's not get carried away here.
well true, but more than i can count. and who's to say one is more 'right' than the others?
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
I fail to see how that makes sense. You're working from a personal perspective here, and I'm working from a reasoning perspective ( which exceeds personal gratification ) so we're not on the same page at all. There are indeed right and wrong answers both in deductive and inductive methods of thought.
 
     
 
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
I fail to see how that makes sense. You're working from a personal perspective here, and I'm working from a reasoning perspective ( which exceeds personal gratification ) so we're not on the same page at all. There are indeed right and wrong answers both in deductive and inductive methods of thought.
You're right, this is going no where. For right and wrong to exist there must be a standard. I'm saying there isn't one.
     
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
If there is a right answer, it is more right. If there are reasonable and unreasonable answers, there's a difference in truth value. Also, yes there are a lot of options.
but there is nothing to say that your action is right. so we're moving according to a compass we can't see?
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
I fail to see how that makes sense. You're working from a personal perspective here, and I'm working from a reasoning perspective ( which exceeds personal gratification ) so we're not on the same page at all. There are indeed right and wrong answers both in deductive and inductive methods of thought.
You're right, this is going no where. For right and wrong to exist there must be a standard. I'm saying there isn't one.


Which relies on a standard in itself. If there is no standard you are right. :/ I wish this pseudo-philosophical nonsense would leave this society and never return. It's stupid and contradictory.
 
     
 
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
I fail to see how that makes sense. You're working from a personal perspective here, and I'm working from a reasoning perspective ( which exceeds personal gratification ) so we're not on the same page at all. There are indeed right and wrong answers both in deductive and inductive methods of thought.
You're right, this is going no where. For right and wrong to exist there must be a standard. I'm saying there isn't one.


Which relies on a standard in itself. If there is no standard you are right. :/ I wish this pseudo-philosophical nonsense would leave this society and never return. It's stupid and contradictory.
we can talk till we turn blue, but we get no where because we rely on things we can never prove to lay the foundations of our arguments. In these sorts of conversations atleast.
     
"A world in which consumerism is developed to its fullest extent, where desires are immediately gratified, would eradicate the most fundamental fact of human existence: its inconvenience." Sparknotes (trimmed to fit)
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
Cherrath
Death and Misery
I recommend you study the methods of induction. From a reasonable standpoint out of the many options presented I can usually cut half out of my way with little trouble. Sadly the compass we follow is internal bias, not external wisdom, so it's the same for everyone else.
I'm not saying most options are not easily benefitial to what we want, I'm saying that the word 'right' implies something outside of what we think. There are options that are good for us, and bad for us, but none that are necessarily right.
I fail to see how that makes sense. You're working from a personal perspective here, and I'm working from a reasoning perspective ( which exceeds personal gratification ) so we're not on the same page at all. There are indeed right and wrong answers both in deductive and inductive methods of thought.
You're right, this is going no where. For right and wrong to exist there must be a standard. I'm saying there isn't one.


Which relies on a standard in itself. If there is no standard you are right. :/ I wish this pseudo-philosophical nonsense would leave this society and never return. It's stupid and contradictory.
we can talk till we turn blue, but we get no where because we rely on things we can never prove to lay the foundations of our arguments. In these sorts of conversations atleast.


Actually writing a proof against you is relatively easy.
 
     
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