Gas chambers.. In North Korea

[Harry Parachute]

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Harry Parachute

Louis_de_Pointe_du_Lac

Oh, and God knows, communism states "go kill Tibetans".

*looks*

Yeah... right there on the front page. "Kill all Tibetans".

I believe this is the argument that leads up to "Well we really haven't had a true Communist government yet".

Wonder why that is?

Oh riiiiight, they collapse and start murdering their own population for the good of the party.

Ho-hum.

In response, I quote you exactly: "Well we really haven't had a true Communist government yet."

By the same token, probably never will.

And the "murdering of their population" was only suggested at.

Imagine the poor of America saying they wanted the rich to be equal with them. Would the rich EVER, no matter what happens, accept that?

Marx said "get rid of the rich". Never really said kill them off. Export them. Whatever.

Oh look, a relativist. Wow, what a rare ********' breed among the moonbat youth.

Kissing cousins of the Socialists, National Socialists that is, had a similar relationship to their targets of ideological hate-speech. "We haven't really said kill them...just get rid of the (Fill in Blank). Deport them. Whatever."

Welcome to the wonderful world of the politics of marginalization.

Appropriately enough, the National Socialist actually benefits their target group because they have as their backbone an economic system based on supply and demand as they pillage, rape, and extort their neighbors and scapegoats until an external force comes to stamp out their tyranny through armed conflict.

Communism can't even survive with economic competition.

Also? The poor want to be rich? They can find a way to benefit the market, the lazy bitches. There's a reason the brain surgeon gets more than the garbageman. You can g'head and figure that one out on your own.

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Of course,you and I can not really argue about which political system is best no more than we can argue over which religion is right. It is all opinion and hearsay. The argument is moot and a conclusion can not be reached.

...Huh?

No, sorry.

Religion as an explanation of metaphysics can't be argued because they have no basis in the physical world.

Political systems do. Communism failed as a superpower and drove its people into misery and starvation when it didn't outright "purge" them. Capitalism survived.

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I must say, however, that your rudeness is unjustified, as is your agression towards communism. If you want to discuss, do it peacefully and calmly.

******** you.

Communism has murdered over 100 million people. I'd say that's a pretty goddamned good justification for my aggression.

That's like a KKK member coming up to me and saying "Let's discuss this whole 'hang blacks for fun' thang in a civil manner."

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Let's get back on topic.

[Harry Parachute]

[******** you. You have not been wronged by communism. If you had lost family and friends to communism, THEN your ******** agression would be justified, a*****e. Until then, keep your mouth shut about how badly communism has wronged humankind. You have no clue.

KKK never wronged me. I'm white.
I'm not allowed to hate them?

Strange, apparently a supposed socialist here is making the argument that I'm not allowed to feel indignation at the suffering of fellow humans if I'm not linked to them by geography or lineage.

Sounds more like the statements of a Feudalist to me.

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Political systems are as much theory as are religious systems. Communism was also responsible for making Russia into a world power, which WE helped destroy. They did not do it on their own, smartass.

Yep.

Even as they stretched their imperialist stranglehold to encompass Eastern Europe and put their workers in labor camps and gulags we kicked their asses just by out-producing them.

World's a free-market b***h.

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You call this surviving? You call what America is right now surviving? you have a sick sense of survival.

blaugh blaugh blaugh

My impression of liberal urbanites:

"So I was watching my cable TV as I drank my 5 dollar mocha latte in my leather upholstered recliner, when I saw that THERE'S A DEFICIT! So I called my friend on my cell phone and was like "OH NOES!" and she was like "OH NOES!" and we talked for an hour about how bad America is. Then I listened to some Radiohead on my iPod and popped a Xanex so I wouldn't be so depressed about living in such a s**t country that I hate."

Hey Chicken Little, go anywhere else in the world.
Come back.
Compare and Contrast.

Then g'head and cry "The Sky is Falling" all you want when you know you're a moonbat.

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I never said that the poor wanted to be rich. I was stating that everyone, in theory, would be middle class.

Yes. In theory.

As opposed to everyone, in reality, being dirt poor.

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Now that we have worked out our mutual agression, how about you shut your heavily-biased mouth and try to hold an intelligent conversation without pissing everyone involved off? That goes against what a discussion is. This is not a discussion, it is a ******** pointless argument.

When I want to argue with someone, I will go to a yahoo chat room, or to the GD forums, or go find one of my redneck neighboors that have a household with a sum IQ equal to a fern.

I came here to discuss. Keep it discussion, or stop wasting my time.

If nothing else, let's start to keep in on-topic, shall we?

Yeah, there's little sense in arguing when you support mass-murder on the basis of egalitarian ideologies.

But then again, watching you self-destruct is funny.

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Harry Parachute

KKK never wronged me. I'm white.
I'm not allowed to hate them?

I love how hating a hate-based organization counts as logic for you. Because, you know... hate is the answer. It solves stuff. *sarcasm*

Harry Parachute

Strange, apparently a supposed socialist here is making the argument that I'm not allowed to feel indignation at the suffering of fellow humans if I'm not linked to them by geography or lineage.

Sounds more like the statements of a Feudalist to me.

I never said I was a socialist, did I? My point was that you need to be able to discuss thing in a relatively nonbiased manner. You have to have some bias, obviously, or discussion would not start. You, however, lapse into hateful mannerisms and means, which solve nothing and stop a conclusion for being reached.

Also, somehow, after reading your posts, I doubt that you can "feel indignation at the suffering of fellow human beings". You seem quite capable at tickling others' sense of indignation, however.

Harry Parachute

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You call this surviving? You call what America is right now surviving? you have a sick sense of survival.

blaugh blaugh blaugh

My impression of liberal urbanites:

"So I was watching my cable TV as I drank my 5 dollar mocha latte in my leather upholstered recliner, when I saw that THERE'S A DEFICIT! So I called my friend on my cell phone and was like "OH NOES!" and she was like "OH NOES!" and we talked for an hour about how bad America is. Then I listened to some Radiohead on my iPod and popped a Xanex so I wouldn't be so depressed about living in such a s**t country that I hate."

Hey Chicken Little, go anywhere else in the world.
Come back.
Compare and Contrast.

Then g'head and cry "The Sky is Falling" all you want when you know you're a moonbat.

If anyone is a moonbat, it is you, my friend. I am not quite sure what your "-ism" is, but you are an extremist in whatever it is.

As I said, when you can hold a discussion without attacking the others involved, come here. Until then, to save the mods' time (as well as those of us interested in intelligent discussion), do go away.

[Harry Parachute]

Louis_de_Pointe_du_Lac

I love how hating a hate-based organization counts as logic for you. Because, you know... hate is the answer. It solves stuff. *sarcasm*

Sorry, I forgot we're not allowed to hate our enemies anymore.
If I ever see a Islamic extremist with a bomb strapped to his chest I'll be sure to give him a hug.

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I never said I was a socialist, did I? My point was that you need to be able to discuss thing in a relatively nonbiased manner. You have to have some bias, obviously, or discussion would not start. You, however, lapse into hateful mannerisms and means, which solve nothing and stop a conclusion for being reached.

Also, somehow, after reading your posts, I doubt that you can "feel indignation at the suffering of fellow human beings". You seem quite capable at tickling others' sense of indignation, however.

Y'damn straight I'm biased. I respect freedom and free expression. I don't respect tyrannical systems and oppression and I don't play apologist or Fifth Column supporter for either of them. Nor am I a relativist that falls back on, "Well it's all subjective and one isn't better so, y'know, I mean it's arbitrary and yeah so...the Earth could be flat."

Also, I know you've probably been brought up in the touchy-feely world that affords all the shelters a superpower can, but indignation =/= suffering. Your ideological feelings being hurt is not comparable to what atrocities go on in tyrannical governments.

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If anyone is a moonbat, it is you, my friend. I am not quite sure what your "-ism" is, but you are an extremist in whatever it is.

As I said, when you can hold a discussion without attacking the others involved, come here. Until then, to save the mods' time (as well as those of us interested in intelligent discussion), do go away.

Yep, I'm an extremist for expressing disdain for what's proved to be the greatest evil of the modern age. Y'figured me out.

Enjoy whittlin' away your leisure time by saying America is going to Hell on Internet Forums all night.

Maybe you can find some fellow doomsayers and make up for your guilt at being part of a system that works by idly supporting an underdog, no matter how lethal to mankind it is. Oh oh oh, just in theory though.

Bye.

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Harry Parachute

Louis_de_Pointe_du_Lac

I love how hating a hate-based organization counts as logic for you. Because, you know... hate is the answer. It solves stuff. *sarcasm*

Sorry, I forgot we're not allowed to hate our enemies anymore.
If I ever see a Islamic extremist with a bomb strapped to his chest I'll be sure to give him a hug.

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I never said I was a socialist, did I? My point was that you need to be able to discuss thing in a relatively nonbiased manner. You have to have some bias, obviously, or discussion would not start. You, however, lapse into hateful mannerisms and means, which solve nothing and stop a conclusion for being reached.

Also, somehow, after reading your posts, I doubt that you can "feel indignation at the suffering of fellow human beings". You seem quite capable at tickling others' sense of indignation, however.

Y'damn straight I'm biased. I respect freedom and free expression. I don't respect tyrannical systems and oppression and I don't play apologist or Fifth Column supporter for either of them. Nor am I a relativist that falls back on, "Well it's all subjective and one isn't better so, y'know, I mean it's arbitrary and yeah so...the Earth could be flat."

Also, I know you've probably been brought up in the touchy-feely world that affords all the shelters a superpower can, but indignation =/= suffering. Your ideological feelings being hurt is not comparable to what atrocities go on in tyrannical governments.

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If anyone is a moonbat, it is you, my friend. I am not quite sure what your "-ism" is, but you are an extremist in whatever it is.

As I said, when you can hold a discussion without attacking the others involved, come here. Until then, to save the mods' time (as well as those of us interested in intelligent discussion), do go away.

Yep, I'm an extremist for expressing disdain for what's proved to be the greatest evil of the modern age. Y'figured me out.

Enjoy whittlin' away your leisure time by saying America is going to Hell on Internet Forums all night.

Maybe you can find some fellow doomsayers and make up for your guilt at being part of a system that works by idly supporting an underdog, no matter how lethal to mankind it is. Oh oh oh, just in theory though.

Bye.

Evil does not exist. Evil is a nondescript term used to describe things that go against individual's ethics.

You want to get down to my beliefs?

So what if the human race exists. What does it matter that we are here? If Earth were to be struck by a giant meteor which simultaneously threw us out of orbit, caused a worldwide earthquake that broke the scales, and flash-boiled every ounce of water on the face of the planet, leaving a charred rock, what of it?

Nothing can matter. It is not possible. All things ARE relativistic. Show me a cold, universal truth.

Know what you would be showing me? Some mathematical formula, if that.

And you aren't a relativist my a**. Your theology is the most relativistic thing I have ever been witness to.

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Also, I know you've probably been brought up in the touchy-feely world that affords all the shelters a superpower can, but indignation =/= suffering. Your ideological feelings being hurt is not comparable to what atrocities go on in tyrannical governments.

Stop trying to devalue the arguments of those that you start arguments with by showing disdain for them and whatever horrible cliches you may try to attach to them for their not agreeing with your illogic. Learn you argue your logic without attacking others.

You scream about the horrors of "atrocities", you bemoan your "respect for freedom and expression", and then more and more show you inability to show respect for your fellow man, LET ALONE their aspects.

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Enjoy whittlin' away your leisure time by saying America is going to Hell on Internet Forums all night.

Enjoy arguing with said person on said forums all night. You obviously place some importance in it. You are, after all, still here, still doing it. Still starting the arguments, for that matter. Of course, I am the antithesis to a religious fanatic, so do desist from placing me in their ranks. Or keep doing so, so that I can take amusement in the fact that a fanatic can scream his lunacy about fanatics.

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Maybe you can find some fellow doomsayers and make up for your guilt at being part of a system that works by idly supporting an underdog, no matter how lethal to mankind it is. Oh oh oh, just in theory though.

Doomsayers? Why do you suddenly see me as a fire-and-brimstone southern baptist? Show me where EXACTLY in my posts I am a doomsayer. Because I do not like the way America is now? Pardon me for disliking a system that supports the fact that someone will always come out on bottom, that hard work does not always pay off, and that has a caste system that is in ways more rigid than any that history has ever seen. Forgive me, please.

You know, let alone the fact that America OBVIOUSLY rules the world when it comes to morality and decision. And then there is that whole pushing democracy on others... because... you know... that is how democracy works, of course.

And GUILT? What guilt have I shown in my posts? What to you deign, in your wonderfully telepathic god-dom, to know about me? You know nothing, you use stereotypes and cliches to argue your points that are not backed by any facts.

Actually, you can not even call what you do arguing. Squabbling. Whining. That is what you do.


Shut up. Move on. Go to the Chatterbox and come back to ED when you can hold a candle to someone else's argument.

OR EVEN KEEP THE DISCUSSION ON TOPIC FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

As I said twice before. Let us get back on topic. Or, if you must, let us take it to PMs.

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Harry Parachute

Also? The poor want to be rich? They can find a way to benefit the market, the lazy bitches. There's a reason the brain surgeon gets more than the garbageman. You can g'head and figure that one out on your own.

That was one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. While there are people who are poor because there are lazy, a great many of the poor aren't poor because they choose to be, but because they don't have the same opportunities as everybody else. The United States, while granting equal rights to a degree, does not guarantee equal circumstances.

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Harry Parachute

Communism has murdered over 100 million people. I'd say that's a pretty goddamned good justification for my aggression.

just out of curoisity, how many has capitalism killed? christianity?

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Harry Parachute

Communism has murdered over 100 million people. I'd say that's a pretty goddamned good justification for my aggression.

just out of curoisity, how many has capitalism killed? christianity?

Nod to that one.