Fatass or Giant Prune: What's the Point?

[Kaosgirl]

guzelle

"losing weight" is an ongoing process that involves keeping a healthy mindset. It's not easy, but it is something that pays off. Longer life,

Not Necessarily.

Being slightly overweight will, statistically speaking, increase your lifespan. And even obesity (BMI 30—35) gives the same results as what's considered "healthy weight."

Though quality of life is not addressed in this study.

[Khamsin]

Michael Noire

Some of you are skinny. Some of you were born skinny and stayed skinny. Some of you, are fat, or became fat after your metabolism slowed down, after you got pregnant, or after you moved to a city full of junk food.

Those of you who are skinny, are often directly or indirectly opposed to Fat people - like fat people aren't normal and need to lose weight to look like they belong. Kind of like in that Episode of Hell's kitchen where the guy is too fat to be permitted on the Helicopter ride (with several other people).

Now, what a lot of you who are fat don't know, and most of you who are skinny have probably forgotten, is something called Stretch marks. I did some checking, and they do not go away naturally. They cost upwards of $15,000 to remove with less than a good chance of success. Now some of you, who are fat, have probably been on several diets. You might have tried exercise, granola bars, yogurt, salads and lean meats. A few of you have actually figured out how to lose weight. What you aren't telling the rest of the fatties is itself more disgusting than a bucket of liposuctioned lard. You aren't telling them that even if they Do lose weight, they will be scarred for life. And the fatter they were, the more scars they will have.

Seriously, I have to ask at this juncture: What's the point?

Is weight loss - even the kind that reduces waste size, and builds muscle - is it worth it, when you will never be able to wear a swimsuit again? I put forward the idea that weight loss and dieting are largely pointless if your weight isn't going to kill you - because the stretch marks are going to look just as unpleasant to strangers as the fat would have been.

Why do you think fat people should still lose weight, if they are going to still look gross even after all the effort (such as the TV show "Biggest Loser)? Discuss.

Well, two things. Health benefits and self-esteem.

1. There are a lot of reasons to trim down if you're overweight. That's not to say hit the perfect number and get instant beauty, but just losting 10-20 pounds can make a huge difference in your risk factors. If you're overweight, you risk higher blood pressure, type II diabetes, joint problems, and (for women) increased chances of breast cancer.

2. There's a psychological factor at work, here, too. People who gain loads of weight don't get there just by eating a few potato chips. It's indicative of some underlying psychological problem (some rape victims do this deter future aggressors) and it needs to be sorted out. Attaining a healthier body weight does wonders for one's self-esteem. If nothing else, it gives a feeling of control and success in life, which increases quality of life.

[Saint Malice The Bloody]

lol don't get fat in the fist place

[Saint Malice The Bloody]

Khamsin

Michael Noire

Some of you are skinny. Some of you were born skinny and stayed skinny. Some of you, are fat, or became fat after your metabolism slowed down, after you got pregnant, or after you moved to a city full of junk food.

Those of you who are skinny, are often directly or indirectly opposed to Fat people - like fat people aren't normal and need to lose weight to look like they belong. Kind of like in that Episode of Hell's kitchen where the guy is too fat to be permitted on the Helicopter ride (with several other people).

Now, what a lot of you who are fat don't know, and most of you who are skinny have probably forgotten, is something called Stretch marks. I did some checking, and they do not go away naturally. They cost upwards of $15,000 to remove with less than a good chance of success. Now some of you, who are fat, have probably been on several diets. You might have tried exercise, granola bars, yogurt, salads and lean meats. A few of you have actually figured out how to lose weight. What you aren't telling the rest of the fatties is itself more disgusting than a bucket of liposuctioned lard. You aren't telling them that even if they Do lose weight, they will be scarred for life. And the fatter they were, the more scars they will have.

Seriously, I have to ask at this juncture: What's the point?

Is weight loss - even the kind that reduces waste size, and builds muscle - is it worth it, when you will never be able to wear a swimsuit again? I put forward the idea that weight loss and dieting are largely pointless if your weight isn't going to kill you - because the stretch marks are going to look just as unpleasant to strangers as the fat would have been.

Why do you think fat people should still lose weight, if they are going to still look gross even after all the effort (such as the TV show "Biggest Loser)? Discuss.

Well, two things. Health benefits and self-esteem.

1. There are a lot of reasons to trim down if you're overweight. That's not to say hit the perfect number and get instant beauty, but just losting 10-20 pounds can make a huge difference in your risk factors. If you're overweight, you risk higher blood pressure, type II diabetes, joint problems, and (for women) increased chances of breast cancer.

2. There's a psychological factor at work, here, too. People who gain loads of weight don't get there just by eating a few potato chips. It's indicative of some underlying psychological problem (some rape victims do this deter future aggressors) and it needs to be sorted out. Attaining a healthier body weight does wonders for one's self-esteem. If nothing else, it gives a feeling of control and success in life, which increases quality of life.

they get fat so they can't run or fight back?

[Auntie Proton]

I've never really been grossed out by stretch marks.
They're pretty normal for anyone who has ever rapidly gained weight for any reason.
Hell, my hips are covered in them and I've never been fat or pregnant or anything.

[eikocarol212]

guzelle

"losing weight" is an ongoing process that involves keeping a healthy mindset. It's not easy, but it is something that pays off. Longer life, healthier, it's beneficial to everything xd

ACTUALLY, losing weight itself doesn't equal longer life. The factors SURROUNDING losing weight, which involves eating healthier, activity, etc., are the reasons why people live longer.

National Institute of Health Report

Quote:

CONCLUSIONS: Overweight diabetic adults trying to lose weight have a reduced risk of all-cause mortality, independent of whether they lose weight.

And losing weight is NOT always beneficial to everything. Lose weight while you are pregnant, and you have a HUGE problem.

@Kaosgirl: That's exactly what I'm thinking.

[Imaginary Marionette]

A) Ugh, don't remind me. They're something that haunt me everyday. Well, at least when I take pictures of myself.

B) I wear swimsuits and I have stretch marks. It's hard to go swimming without wearing a swimsuit. Or rather, be allowed to.

C) Stretch marks aren't THAT bad, despite my 'A'. They're not terribly noticeable, and honestly, it's not like they hurt or impact great sex and the like.

D) The point of losing weight, in my case, is so that I can look better and feel better (about myself). If the stretch marks stay, I'll survive. But at least I'll have a rockin' body to go along with them.

[Imaginary Marionette]

Auntie Proton

I've never really been grossed out by stretch marks.
They're pretty normal for anyone who has ever rapidly gained weight for any reason.
Hell, my hips are covered in them and I've never been fat or pregnant or anything.

Yeah, I know a girl who got white ones all over her breasts because she gained weight too rapidly there when she was younger. It's not terribly abnormal.

[Ryukahn Shade]

Kymeara

You obviously are unaware that stretch mark lotion does exist and that it is effective in removing the scars. It's worked for everyone I've ever met who has decided to use it, including myself thanks to the growth spurts my breasts have experienced. Not to mention, some people don't give a s**t about whether they have stretch marks or not. They'd rather have a few lines than three spare tires around their middle. Ever think about that?






Answer: No, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation.

And I think it's beyond stupid that you posted this if you are obviously anti-weight loss. People lose weight to feel better about themselves physically, mentally, and emotionally. The fact that they can even fit into that swimsuit is an accomplishment in itself.

I think the Op's point was, that being a little chubby is not a bad thing.
In fact, I target my women who are bigger. They can fight better, usually aren't so shallow in the head, and can actually think for themselves. I'm not saying all thin people don't think for themselves, I'm saying the majority of the women I've met inside and outside of school, are simply simple headed and uber materialistic when they are skinny. They cruise through their childhood without a blemish or a scar, dating all the popular guys and having sex with whoever they choose. Heavier people, having been teased their entire life, actually have real goals and real life expectations rather than living in drama world.
Plus, wrestling with a heavier woman in bed is much fun. Skinny girls are just complete wimps and complain too much...(about everything). v.v.

[Supa Beanie]

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

[eikocarol212]

Supa Beanie

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

I like you.....lets be friends. For reals.

[Supa Beanie]

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

I like you.....lets be friends. For reals.

I'd be happy to be your friend =]

[eikocarol212]

Supa Beanie

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

I like you.....lets be friends. For reals.

I'd be happy to be your friend =]

Yay. 3nodding

Seriously, you are one of the few people on the ED who isn't all "Lolz, fatties need to lose weight."

[Supa Beanie]

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

I like you.....lets be friends. For reals.

I'd be happy to be your friend =]

Yay. 3nodding

Seriously, you are one of the few people on the ED who isn't all "Lolz, fatties need to lose weight."

I would probably /wrists if I ever ended up in that group, people need to lighten up about people being overweight. I even see people on forums sometimes bagging on "fatties" under the disguise of being concerned for their health. But the truth is, people still haven't accepted the whole differences truth yet, they want the world to conform to their ideas instead of accepting that everyone will not and cannot be the same. It's sick.

[eikocarol212]

Supa Beanie

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

eikocarol212

Supa Beanie

You're operating this whole question around superficial concepts which I get, some people are that superficial. But my take on it is, why bother losing weight to please a world that can't be pleased. First you lose the weight, pay out the 15K to look good in a swimsuit again. After that though, how much more is expected for people to be this unreachable concept of 'perfect'? To be honest screw what other people think, if it's not for me then it's not worth doing. We all want to be accepted, sure, but at the expense of pushing out hard earned cash into a thankless concept, please. The ones who do it are just as fake and worthless as the ones who push out the concept that being skinny means 'perfect' or 'acceptable' and looking good skinny is that extra bonus that makes you worth being seen with in public. Give me a break, losing weight doesn't give you self worth, and it won't make you feel better about yourself. In the end you're still going to be you, and if you're unhappy fat, you'll be unhappy skinny, you'll just be a healthier unhappy you. rolleyes

I like you.....lets be friends. For reals.

I'd be happy to be your friend =]

Yay. 3nodding

Seriously, you are one of the few people on the ED who isn't all "Lolz, fatties need to lose weight."

I would probably /wrists if I ever ended up in that group, people need to lighten up about people being overweight. I even see people on forums sometimes bagging on "fatties" under the disguise of being concerned for their health. But the truth is, people still haven't accepted the whole differences truth yet, they want the world to conform to their ideas instead of accepting that everyone will not and cannot be the same. It's sick.

Yep. Pretty much. It's sad how we humans create our own s**t. "Everyone is a unique individual!!!" but at the same time "Everyone needs to follow this guideline in order to be socially acceptable!!!" We're too superficial for our own good, and it's gonna bite us in the a**.