Facebook Parenting: For the Troubled Teen

[the Caelos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU

What was his intended message?

1: "You need to respect me."
2: "I am unappreciated."
3: "I have rules which are not being followed."
4: "You're ungrateful."

Valid concerns.

How does he say it?

1: "I am offended. The appropriate way to respond to this is offense is with humiliation, destruction, and blackmail."
2: "You are inadequate, stupid. You can't even 'remember'/respect a list of chores."
3: "I own you. You need to do as I say, preferably more, or pay the price for my actions."
4: "Privacy is a privilege, not a right."

Is the daughter blameless? No, she was probably looking to provoke a response through spite. She addressed it to her father; she knew he had found private information before, and she probably anticipated him finding it again.

The father may have had it rough at her age, but he and her mother certainly don't seem like easy people to live with either.

[Pipe Private]

Tell you what, I started thinking to myself, "I really hope she didn't have any homework assignments or anything else important saved on that thing (with no backup)."

The father sounded hurt, towards the end. So I think a lot of his message was from clear upset.

I think it was kind of an overreaction, because kids post things like that, and have posted things like that, all across the internet (remember blogs? REAL blogs?) for years.

It would teach her to appreciate what she has (had), though. Learning not to take things quite so much for granted... or just drawing the conclusion that "OHMYGOD, I need to get OUT of this house!!1!"

[Freebird4077]

I agree that the daughter was a spoiled brat, but he went too far with shooting it.

[Horace Burtons Ghost]

At first, Dad implies he is in IT, implying he 'hacked' into his daughters account. He didn't. His daughter, although blocking her parents, had not blocked the page she had made on behalf of her pet. It was through here Dad got in, and got his feelings hurt. His feelings hurt. By having such an 'ungrateful' daughter. LMFAO.

At worst, she was having a tiny rant, in the whole scheme of things. A lot worse could have been said. A certainly not enough to warrant shooting a computer. What a douche. A one dimensional parent. Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

I also wondered what telling a person with no form of income of their own, still relying on parental support, that paying back the money wasted on a shot up laptop, is really going to achieve. It's like informing North Korea another sanction has been enforced.

The immaturity of this parent certainly indicates what a small mind he has. He was thinking he was chalking up a score for all those parents who don't know what the ******** their kids are up to, and really want to know. But, it seems even a light 'parent troll' in this family has dire consequences. Hopefully now he will keep his nose out of other people's business. As the saying goes 'what is said behind my back, is none of my business'.

Glad she didn't post she was pregnant on her FB page. Not sure I want to know what would have happened next.

[Nonesuch Solo]

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

[Horace Burtons Ghost]

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

He was very hurt, that the sacrifice he made by becoming a parent isn't reciprocated with the aria from 'Aida' every time he walks through the door. The only thing I took to task, was when she shitbagged the woman that came over and helped around the house. Unless she really is the cleaner.

Respect has to be earned, and not by having a tantrum and shooting up a computer. It is sending the wrong message with regards to how adults should behave when things don't always go their way.

It is not alright to behave in such a childish manner, hoping that there are tonnes of like-minded folk who applaude you for doing something they only dream about, and to use the excuse that you are 'the parent', does not make what he did right, or in any way productive.

Two adults couldnt resolve this conflict like that in the workplace, neither should people be treated this way at home.

No wonder kids get ******** up, since this is one example of the parenting skills on display.

Maybe the kid should have been shown that nothing is hidden on the internet, so be mindful of what you say. And remind them, that before computers, that s**t was written in diaries, where teenage angst used to reside.

As far as personal devices for kids, worldproof the child, because you can't childproof the world. Being taught how to use the devices properly, and to explain some of the tricky things, I think is better than them stumbling on it later, and finding the nasty s**t on their own, without any guidance from those with more life experience.

[Nonesuch Solo]

Horace Burtons Ghost

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

He was very hurt, that the sacrifice he made by becoming a parent isn't reciprocated with the aria from 'Aida' every time he walks through the door.

rolleyes

Horace Burtons Ghost

It is not alright to behave in such a childish manner, hoping that there are tonnes of like-minded folk who applaude you for doing something they only dream about,

IIRC he initially didn't hope to find a ton of like-minded parents on the internet. He just wanted to respond to his daughter's rant by linking the video on her facebook page where, like her rant was, all her friends could see it.

Horace Burtons Ghost

As far as personal devices for kids, worldproof the child, because you can't childproof the world. Being taught how to use the devices properly, and to explain some of the tricky things, I think is better than them stumbling on it later, and finding the nasty s**t on their own, without any guidance from those with more life experience.

Didn't say they'd have no electronics, just that they wouldn't have private ones. A child does not need a personal laptop.

[Ocion]

I find him pathetic. He is trying to humiliate his daughter in front of her friends. He is a whore for positive attention. Couldn't watch the whole thing, sure the daughter is in the wrong, but the dad is kind of a cunty effeminate loser posing as some bad a** cowboy.

[Horace Burtons Ghost]

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

He was very hurt, that the sacrifice he made by becoming a parent isn't reciprocated with the aria from 'Aida' every time he walks through the door.

rolleyes

Horace Burtons Ghost

It is not alright to behave in such a childish manner, hoping that there are tonnes of like-minded folk who applaude you for doing something they only dream about,

IIRC he initially didn't hope to find a ton of like-minded parents on the internet. He just wanted to respond to his daughter's rant by linking the video on her facebook page where, like her rant was, all her friends could see it.

Horace Burtons Ghost

As far as personal devices for kids, worldproof the child, because you can't childproof the world. Being taught how to use the devices properly, and to explain some of the tricky things, I think is better than them stumbling on it later, and finding the nasty s**t on their own, without any guidance from those with more life experience.

Didn't say they'd have no electronics, just that they wouldn't have private ones. A child does not need a personal laptop.

My apologies, I misread it as none, rather than a family one. Although when two people want it at the same time as I sometimes find......

I have to admit, I have not read any of the girl's friends replies. Maybe perhaps 'do you want to hang out at my place, since I don't want to hang out at yours'?

I am trying to see this thing from this blokes point of view. I understand if it were him taking the piss out of the situation and done in humour, but he seemed really peeved. I still didn't think him informing us he was in IT bore any relevance to this particular story, apart from say, those watching it are not entirely computer literate, and have not the faintest clue as to what their kids are getting up to in their rooms cruising the net. It gave me the impression he was trying to assert that he was no hick, and not one easily deceived. Internet or not.

I still don't think this girl had done anything or said anything that warranted such an outburst. It shuts down lines of communication rather than opening them. I don't want to know the advice he would give he in relation to boys and sex, if this is how he reacts to an angsty little letter.

[Disa Uniflora]

I thought it was awesome and wish it would happen more. I particularly like that the first thing he addressed on his list of grievances was the 'cleaning lady' term. Way to go, bro.

[Wee Little]

I think the shooting it act was a waste of money. I think he should have found a family that truly needed it, or a kid who otherwise would probably have no chance at having their own laptop. I'd have recorded it and explained the situation.

Sometimes humiliation is how you get the word across. She will probably appreciate it one day when she gets her own job and learns how much work it takes to be able to afford to buy your own computer.

I think he wanted to show her that she was not entitled to these things that he bought her and to remind her who makes the money and who spends the money to get her these things. If it comes from his money, it is his laptop to do with what he wishes.

[Nonesuch Solo]

Horace Burtons Ghost

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

He was very hurt, that the sacrifice he made by becoming a parent isn't reciprocated with the aria from 'Aida' every time he walks through the door.

rolleyes

Horace Burtons Ghost

It is not alright to behave in such a childish manner, hoping that there are tonnes of like-minded folk who applaude you for doing something they only dream about,

IIRC he initially didn't hope to find a ton of like-minded parents on the internet. He just wanted to respond to his daughter's rant by linking the video on her facebook page where, like her rant was, all her friends could see it.

Horace Burtons Ghost

As far as personal devices for kids, worldproof the child, because you can't childproof the world. Being taught how to use the devices properly, and to explain some of the tricky things, I think is better than them stumbling on it later, and finding the nasty s**t on their own, without any guidance from those with more life experience.

Didn't say they'd have no electronics, just that they wouldn't have private ones. A child does not need a personal laptop.

My apologies, I misread it as none, rather than a family one. Although when two people want it at the same time as I sometimes find......

I have to admit, I have not read any of the girl's friends replies. Maybe perhaps 'do you want to hang out at my place, since I don't want to hang out at yours'?

I am trying to see this thing from this blokes point of view. I understand if it were him taking the piss out of the situation and done in humour, but he seemed really peeved. I still didn't think him informing us he was in IT bore any relevance to this particular story, apart from say, those watching it are not entirely computer literate, and have not the faintest clue as to what their kids are getting up to in their rooms cruising the net. It gave me the impression he was trying to assert that he was no hick, and not one easily deceived. Internet or not.

I still don't think this girl had done anything or said anything that warranted such an outburst. It shuts down lines of communication rather than opening them. I don't want to know the advice he would give he in relation to boys and sex, if this is how he reacts to an angsty little letter.

The follow up was quite interesting, actually. It has a lot more insight into how she reacted, and what they're doing from here.

I recall something about how the dad suggested they sell the shells (from those hollow-points he shot into her laptop) on ebay to help recoup some of the cost, and she added "Hey if we can sell those shells, shoot my phone too!" It's definitely not shut down communication. I can't remember where I originally read all that though.

ETA: This isn't what I read initially, but it is interesting.

Also: This one has a pretty fun quote, "[...if I had to do it again I would] not be smoking a cigarette ... not have used the word "a**" in my comment directed at my daughter ... would have worn my Silverbelly Stetson, not my Tilley hat if I'd known that image was going to follow me the rest of my life and I'd probably have cleaned my boots."

AHA!! Here we go! This one includes an entire section about how Hannah reacted to the whole thing.

[Super 9-Volt]

I'd hate to see him put the gun out when someone leaves a fork in the sink or something. neutral That dude's an overreacting redneck and I hope his daughter can get away from him. If she was my daughter, she wouldn't have her laptop shot up.

[The Living Force]

Nonesuch Solo

Horace Burtons Ghost

Hurt my feelings, I destroy your s**t.

Um, no. The message seemed to be, disobey and disrespect me, and I end your relationship with the s**t I bought and upgraded for you.

My kids aren't even going to have personal electronics while under my roof.

And I'll send the message with a firearm. That's an absolutely irresponsible use of a gun. You do not parent your child with a firearm, EVER, unless you're teaching them how to use them and be safe with them.

[Dostya]

Horace Burtons Ghost

I don't want to know the advice he would give he in relation to boys and sex, if this is how he reacts to an angsty little letter.

It's probably abstinence only, and then when she figures out she has a boyfriend he shoots him in the face. Sans video, maybe.