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PC Angel Troll
Hail, ED'ers. I Find Myself in A Quandry and Hath Come Seeking Thy Aid. Now Answer Me and If Thou Cans't Please Provide Me With Thine Speculation.

Our Lord and Savior Promises to Take Our Immortal Souls To His Bosom And Hold Us Near His Heart After Death. Our Lord Hath Also Proclaimed That All Animals Have Been Made By Him to Serve Us.

Animals Do Serve and Foresooth They Provide Great Pleasure. Yet Some Animals Thou Dost Treat as Thou It Were Thine Companion. Now When We Pass Wilst Our Animal Companions Join Us Near The Heart of Our Lord or Are We Left Berift of Our Faithful Companions in The Hereafter?


Because time is a condition and a dimension to which we will no longer be subject, therefore we may retrieve any animal friend at our whim. During bodily resurrection we will also have the power to call forth the resurrection of the diseased pet for our enjoyment.
 
     
 
like humans, animals also have choices, what choices they make determine whether or not they go to heaven
     
taking my time, im just moving on
you'll forget about me after i been gone

San no mai Shirafune
like humans, animals also have choices, what choices they make determine whether or not they go to heaven


Emphatically, NO. stare Non-humans do not abstract --- with the possible exception of dolphins --- animals are not subject to judgement and cannot make the choice to reject God, for they never would I assure you. Animals have more sense when it comes to God than humans do.
 
     


Wishing for you a Magical, Mystical Christmas my dears!
 
Malcolm Tucker
Aren't we forgetting that All Dogs Go To Heaven?


Yes DOGS being the keyword there but the OP is talking about puppies which are baby dogs. So we could get all biologically here.

Meh.

I think they should be made into hush puppies and mini hot dogs. I mean people in "third world" counties eat 'em why not Americans? At least we can spice them up and down it in booze.

Now as per the question no they don't. The Lion King thing happens....
     
"Animals" didn't eat from the forbidden fruit.

As such, they don't possess souls, and, obviously, can not transcend to an afterlife, after death.
 
     
 
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Khamsin
PC Angel Troll
Hail, ED'ers. I Find Myself in A Quandry and Hath Come Seeking Thy Aid. Now Answer Me and If Thou Cans't Please Provide Me With Thine Speculation.

Our Lord and Savior Promises to Take Our Immortal Souls To His Bosom And Hold Us Near His Heart After Death. Our Lord Hath Also Proclaimed That All Animals Have Been Made By Him to Serve Us.

Animals Do Serve and Foresooth They Provide Great Pleasure. Yet Some Animals Thou Dost Treat as Thou It Were Thine Companion. Now When We Pass Wilst Our Animal Companions Join Us Near The Heart of Our Lord or Are We Left Berift of Our Faithful Companions in The Hereafter?

No. They play card games in Hell. With your mother.

Silence Knave!
Thou Are a Weak WIlled Knotty-Pated Maggot Pie.
Begone Fiend!


a hundred score and nine more internets to thee!
     
Princess Z-M
Malcolm Tucker
Aren't we forgetting that All Dogs Go To Heaven?


Yes DOGS being the keyword there but the OP is talking about puppies which are baby dogs. So we could get all biologically here.

Meh.

I think they should be made into hush puppies and mini hot dogs. I mean people in "third world" counties eat 'em why not Americans? At least we can spice them up and down it in booze.

Now as per the question no they don't. The Lion King thing happens....


you mean the Circle of Poo?
 
     
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theundeadchrist
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Some people are REALLY stupid. These people shouldn't be allowed to interact with the rest of society. stressed
perhaps society should not interact with us
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Keltoi Samurai
Princess Z-M
Malcolm Tucker
Aren't we forgetting that All Dogs Go To Heaven?


Yes DOGS being the keyword there but the OP is talking about puppies which are baby dogs. So we could get all biologically here.

Meh.

I think they should be made into hush puppies and mini hot dogs. I mean people in "third world" counties eat 'em why not Americans? At least we can spice them up and down it in booze.

Now as per the question no they don't. The Lion King thing happens....


you mean the Circle of Poo?


No simba....

When they die their bodies become the grass and the Hippies smoke the grass. Thus they are all part of the same circle of highness.
     
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black_wing_angel
"Animals" didn't eat from the forbidden fruit.

As such, they don't possess souls, and, obviously, can not transcend to an afterlife, after death.

That is a fundamentalist belief with no bases in Logic or fact, I do not believe nor support such a faith bound and very old belief.
I do not believe in heaven or hell, I believe in what we call the 'afterlife' I believe that we and ALL animal life, are all part of something greater then us, something most humans do not have the capacity to understand.
 
     
 
Hepzeba
San no mai Shirafune
like humans, animals also have choices, what choices they make determine whether or not they go to heaven


Emphatically, NO. stare Non-humans do not abstract --- with the possible exception of dolphins --- animals are not subject to judgement and cannot make the choice to reject God, for they never would I assure you. Animals have more sense when it comes to God than humans do.


Yes, animals have more sense then we do, but it is NOT about this Christian 'God' we need to believe in. It is about something much greater.
     
Temba
black_wing_angel
"Animals" didn't eat from the forbidden fruit.

As such, they don't possess souls, and, obviously, can not transcend to an afterlife, after death.

That is a fundamentalist belief with no bases in Logic or fact, I do not believe nor support such a faith bound and very old belief.
I do not believe in heaven or hell, I believe in what we call the 'afterlife' I believe that we and ALL animal life, are all part of something greater then us, something most humans do not have the capacity to understand.


And that has "basis in logic and fact" that my example doesn't.......how?
 
     
 
Hepzeba
San no mai Shirafune
like humans, animals also have choices, what choices they make determine whether or not they go to heaven


Emphatically, NO. stare Non-humans do not abstract --- with the possible exception of dolphins --- animals are not subject to judgement and cannot make the choice to reject God, for they never would I assure you. Animals have more sense when it comes to God than humans do.


No, non human Animals, can not make religious, Political, and Technological choices, but they are more then capable of making every day basic Instinctual, survival, and recreational choices. They choose which way to go, they choose where to build a nest, where to Bury a bone, when to attack that mouse, so on and so forth. Just because something can't make a Religious, political or Technical choice, does NOT automatically mean they are incapable of choice.
animals are NOT the mindless machines we are taught to believe they are.

It is not unreasonable to assume that animals do think. After all, each species has evolved over hundreds of thousands of years to be perfect in their own way. Humans are very good at being human, a dog is good at being a dog and a chicken is good at being a chicken.


One step on from "thinking" is the idea of feelings - sensations such as pain or nausea, or emotions such as fear and anxiety.

A sentient animal is one that has the capacity to have feelings. Sentience means a level of conscious awareness. Humans are undoubtedly sentient - we consciously experience feelings of many different types. But what of other animals? While the mind of a human is much more complex than the minds of other animals this is only a question of degree. There are people that say that not all animals are sentient. However, without proof in either direction, and with evidence that many animals are sentient, we believe it is important to assume that all living creatures are sentient to some degree. After all, if we assume they are not and treat them accordingly, there is a moral issue to face if we are wrong.

One of the oldest ideas in philosophy is that animals act in a machine-like fashion with no conscious thought processes of any kind. The more we find out about animals, the more this idea is disappearing. Evidence is growing that animals have far more cognitive abilities than has traditionally been believed - they are sentient creatures.
     
black_wing_angel
Temba
black_wing_angel
"Animals" didn't eat from the forbidden fruit.

As such, they don't possess souls, and, obviously, can not transcend to an afterlife, after death.

That is a fundamentalist belief with no bases in Logic or fact, I do not believe nor support such a faith bound and very old belief.
I do not believe in heaven or hell, I believe in what we call the 'afterlife' I believe that we and ALL animal life, are all part of something greater then us, something most humans do not have the capacity to understand.


And that has "basis in logic and fact" that my example doesn't.......how?


How does yours have a bases in fact, what proof can you provide that does NOT involve the holy book/?

This is based on something I have come to understand, something that took me years to understand, I cannot explain it to you.
 
     
Gay rights are about love. Let us therefore show love to each other.

Tolerance, Respect, & Love, Say no to Intolerance and hate.

Gays, men and women, can fall in love just the same as straights.
Love knows no gender.
 
Temba
black_wing_angel
Temba
black_wing_angel
"Animals" didn't eat from the forbidden fruit.

As such, they don't possess souls, and, obviously, can not transcend to an afterlife, after death.

That is a fundamentalist belief with no bases in Logic or fact, I do not believe nor support such a faith bound and very old belief.
I do not believe in heaven or hell, I believe in what we call the 'afterlife' I believe that we and ALL animal life, are all part of something greater then us, something most humans do not have the capacity to understand.


And that has "basis in logic and fact" that my example doesn't.......how?


I can't prove my bullshit, any better than you can prove yours.


Concession noted. Thanks for playing.
     

Fresnel
Angel: Solving every situation with &******** [pronoun]"
You're not funny or entertaining and you're extremely annoying. I have no idea why so many people like you. Must be because this forum is full of teenagers.
 
     


I am male.
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