Dissociative Identity Disorder

[marlowespirals]

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marlowespirals

I think that almost all mental disorders can be dealt with without meds.

That's a terribly flawed assumption. By what basis do you make this claim?

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I have never taken antidepressants and I'd like to keep it that way. Doing it my way just makes me a stronger person.

Are you implying that individuals who take medication for their disorders or get medical treatment for them are not strong people?

1. For clarification, I said "almost all," not "all." I am not making a claim. I am stating a personal belief. I hold this belief due to my personal associations with people with mental disorders. I have a friend who is a malignant narcissist and he doesn't take meds. In fact, I think malignant narcissism is not able to be treated by meds. I have a friend that overcame ADHD without the use of meds. I could go on and on, but I won't bore you with the details.

2. I am not in any way implying that individuals that take meds or get treatment are not strong. I do not mean to make a blanket statement- it was you that inferred that. I feel that I myself have become stronger by dealing with my own problems. I have a very weak personality and have never been able to stand up for myself, but ever since I made a conscious decision to fix that, I have become more able to make a decision and stick to it. It no longer takes only seconds to reduce me to tears as in the past.

I do not in any way intend to say that medication is bad, or that people that take it are weak. All I mean to say is that the people I have seen who have made the decision not to take meds have come a long way since I have known them, and I am very impressed by what they have been able to achieve on their own.

[Sweetpea The Tigress]

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Kimihiro_Watanuki

DID does indeed exist. I have also been diagnosed with the disorder. It's hell to know you're not even in control of your own body.

Wow, Sweetpea and you? I had absolutely no clue that you both had the disorder.

I usually hide it, but I've come out of the closet now...

[Sweetpea The Tigress]

marlowespirals

Sweetpea The Tigress

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It says all over that textbook that no one is really certain about DID because it is a very recently discovered diagnosis. The DSM-IV repeats on numerous occasions that ANY diagnosis made is more or less a risky one. What one Psychologist decides will be different from what another Psychologist decides. One guy diagnosis you with Depression. Another guy says you're Bipolar. A third guy says, "Oh no, it's definitely Borderline Personality Disorder." For one person.


My point is not so much to discredit people as it is to say, are you absolutely SURE this is what's going on? Could there be something else that's provoking this situation in you? Are there other possible conditions to look into?

If a Doctor says you have multiple personalities... would it benefit to try for a second opinion...? That might sound exhausting, but I'd rather know if I was doing it to myself, or if my brain really was taking itself out for a joyride without my realizing...



I wonder... if I had been more positive with my claims and then provided this information, would people have given more credit to my sources? Unrelated but kind of amusing is how, if you say something and someone asks you "Source, please," and then you give them a source, the first thing they come back at you is "Well, that's not a reliable source." neutral

And THAT'S why psychs scare me. I would rather live out my life screwed up trying to fix myself than go to a psych and get put on meds and therapy and god knows what else. I don't have the time or money to waste going from doctor to doctor waiting to be told, "well, something's wrong with you but there's no textbook diagnosis, so instead we're going to give you a variety of problems and give you some antidepressants and-"

And as a general rule, people have made up their minds. There's no way to convince them otherwise, no matter how reliable your sources are. D: Just have faith in yourself, but be open to other ideas.

can you function and have joy in life without the meds and therapy? I couldn't.. crying . I was a wreck. I take my meds religiously, but they're hard on the body.

I'm fine- for now- without meds. I mean, I can really let myself go around my friends that know about us. The main "motivation" of my alter is to keep me out of situations where I might get hurt- she controls my "fight or flight" functions and does everything she can to keep us out of trouble. Most of the times, I'm not that depressed, and I'm definitely functional 99% of the time.

I think that almost all mental disorders can be dealt with without meds. I have never taken antidepressants and I'd like to keep it that way. Doing it my way just makes me a stronger person.

I'm glad for you. I tried going without my meds before, and although I lost a lot of weight, I was as mad as a hatter. gonk Co-morbid crapola... I don't dare do so again.

[marlowespirals]

Sweetpea The Tigress

marlowespirals

Sweetpea The Tigress

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It says all over that textbook that no one is really certain about DID because it is a very recently discovered diagnosis. The DSM-IV repeats on numerous occasions that ANY diagnosis made is more or less a risky one. What one Psychologist decides will be different from what another Psychologist decides. One guy diagnosis you with Depression. Another guy says you're Bipolar. A third guy says, "Oh no, it's definitely Borderline Personality Disorder." For one person.


My point is not so much to discredit people as it is to say, are you absolutely SURE this is what's going on? Could there be something else that's provoking this situation in you? Are there other possible conditions to look into?

If a Doctor says you have multiple personalities... would it benefit to try for a second opinion...? That might sound exhausting, but I'd rather know if I was doing it to myself, or if my brain really was taking itself out for a joyride without my realizing...



I wonder... if I had been more positive with my claims and then provided this information, would people have given more credit to my sources? Unrelated but kind of amusing is how, if you say something and someone asks you "Source, please," and then you give them a source, the first thing they come back at you is "Well, that's not a reliable source." neutral

And THAT'S why psychs scare me. I would rather live out my life screwed up trying to fix myself than go to a psych and get put on meds and therapy and god knows what else. I don't have the time or money to waste going from doctor to doctor waiting to be told, "well, something's wrong with you but there's no textbook diagnosis, so instead we're going to give you a variety of problems and give you some antidepressants and-"

And as a general rule, people have made up their minds. There's no way to convince them otherwise, no matter how reliable your sources are. D: Just have faith in yourself, but be open to other ideas.

can you function and have joy in life without the meds and therapy? I couldn't.. crying . I was a wreck. I take my meds religiously, but they're hard on the body.

I'm fine- for now- without meds. I mean, I can really let myself go around my friends that know about us. The main "motivation" of my alter is to keep me out of situations where I might get hurt- she controls my "fight or flight" functions and does everything she can to keep us out of trouble. Most of the times, I'm not that depressed, and I'm definitely functional 99% of the time.

I think that almost all mental disorders can be dealt with without meds. I have never taken antidepressants and I'd like to keep it that way. Doing it my way just makes me a stronger person.

I'm glad for you. I tried going without my meds before, and although I lost a lot of weight, I was as mad as a hatter. gonk Co-morbid crapola... I don't dare do so again.

Admittedly, I am a very dark person. I write some pree-tty messed up poetry and I cut myself on occasion, just for the control surge. I only wish I would lose weight! XD

[Sweetpea The Tigress]

marlowespirals

Admittedly, I am a very dark person. I write some pree-tty messed up poetry and I cut myself on occasion, just for the control surge. I only wish I would lose weight! XD

LOL! Me too- dark poetry and art. I'm pretty happy most of the time, but these bubbles of darkess rise up in me. I no longer self mutilate; but I did gain all that weight back! I'm losing again, but slowly... I reward myself for passing up food temptations.

[I got bored one day]

So start a poetry club!

[Sweetpea The Tigress]

Within Without

So start a poetry club!

LOL! What should we call it? The Poetry of the Damned? All my stuff is about illness, insanity, hatred, and death- and other pleasant subjects.
I Want Revenge! scream SPARTA!!!!!!! scream

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marlowespirals

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marlowespirals

I think that almost all mental disorders can be dealt with without meds.

That's a terribly flawed assumption. By what basis do you make this claim?

Quote:

I have never taken antidepressants and I'd like to keep it that way. Doing it my way just makes me a stronger person.

Are you implying that individuals who take medication for their disorders or get medical treatment for them are not strong people?

1. For clarification, I said "almost all," not "all." I am not making a claim. I am stating a personal belief. I hold this belief due to my personal associations with people with mental disorders. I have a friend who is a malignant narcissist and he doesn't take meds. In fact, I think malignant narcissism is not able to be treated by meds. I have a friend that overcame ADHD without the use of meds. I could go on and on, but I won't bore you with the details.

I can point out right here that I know many individuals who survive because they have medication. That they can not function without it.

In my particular case, my bodily dissonance from my GID is so severe that I really was unable to function until I started physical transition. I'm returning to ADD meds because I can barely get by off them.

I really think forming a belief about almost everyone (i.e. everyone but a tiny minority) based on just the people you know is a bit premature and inaccurate. There are people who don't need meds, who can handle life without it or using other methods. But I see no evidence they are the majority.

Why not next time say, "I believe that some people can do just fine without meds. It isn't for everyone."

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2. I am not in any way implying that individuals that take meds or get treatment are not strong. I do not mean to make a blanket statement- it was you that inferred that. I feel that I myself have become stronger by dealing with my own problems. I have a very weak personality and have never been able to stand up for myself, but ever since I made a conscious decision to fix that, I have become more able to make a decision and stick to it. It no longer takes only seconds to reduce me to tears as in the past.

The way you posed it, right after citing the concept that the mass majority of people with disorders can go without meds as your belief created a very negative impression.

I asked because I gave you the benefit of the doubt despite the intensity of that negative impression.

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I do not in any way intend to say that medication is bad, or that people that take it are weak. All I mean to say is that the people I have seen who have made the decision not to take meds have come a long way since I have known them, and I am very impressed by what they have been able to achieve on their own.

That's a lot better. Thank you for clarifying.

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Sweetpea The Tigress

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Kimihiro_Watanuki

DID does indeed exist. I have also been diagnosed with the disorder. It's hell to know you're not even in control of your own body.

Wow, Sweetpea and you? I had absolutely no clue that you both had the disorder.

I usually hide it, but I've come out of the closet now...

Well, I hope that being open about this is a largely positive thing for you. I wish you luck.

[Sweetpea The Tigress]

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Sweetpea The Tigress

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Kimihiro_Watanuki

DID does indeed exist. I have also been diagnosed with the disorder. It's hell to know you're not even in control of your own body.

Wow, Sweetpea and you? I had absolutely no clue that you both had the disorder.

I usually hide it, but I've come out of the closet now...

Well, I hope that being open about this is a largely positive thing for you. I wish you luck.

I'm only out online... I've seen how others with DID are treated by the average person; and I know how even MedDocs and other mentally ill kids react... I totally play it off and think up excuses and make up lies to protect myself. I wish I could be more open, but I haven't the courage.

No one's said anything really negative on Gaia, though... I disregard ignorant ranting of the people who say its made up.

May things go well with your GID.

[little_boy_luke]

I'm envy dose who tinks dat it not is real. What neat little world you must lives in.

[Raudsoo]

I think I have DID... When im realy realy drunk that is! *zing*

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Raudsoo

I think I have DID... When im realy realy drunk that is! *zing*

I don't get it.

Sweetpea The Tigress

I'm only out online... I've seen how others with DID are treated by the average person; and I know how even MedDocs and other mentally ill kids react... I totally play it off and think up excuses and make up lies to protect myself. I wish I could be more open, but I haven't the courage.

No one's said anything really negative on Gaia, though... I disregard ignorant ranting of the people who say its made up.

May things go well with your GID.

Yeah, unfortunately people with your disorder are treated really badly all over. I hope you manage to avoid the worst of it at least.

Thank you.

[Raudsoo]

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Raudsoo

I think I have DID... When im realy realy drunk that is! *zing*

I don't get it.

Sweetpea The Tigress

I'm only out online... I've seen how others with DID are treated by the average person; and I know how even MedDocs and other mentally ill kids react... I totally play it off and think up excuses and make up lies to protect myself. I wish I could be more open, but I haven't the courage.

No one's said anything really negative on Gaia, though... I disregard ignorant ranting of the people who say its made up.

May things go well with your GID.

Yeah, unfortunately people with your disorder are treated really badly all over. I hope you manage to avoid the worst of it at least.

Thank you.

I quess youve never been realy realy drunk! We can change that if your hot wink

[Stygian Soleil]

Sweetpea The Tigress

No one's said anything really negative on Gaia, though... I disregard ignorant ranting of the people who say its made up.

It's less an argument that it's made up and more an argument that it may be a zebra, possibly cultural, and iatrogenic.