Declawing Cats-why humans can be monsters

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Anakha the Silver

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She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

or just declaw, badda bing, badda boom, never have to go to the vet again except for health issues, and you also never have to try and find the 'new thing' out there for you to put on cats feet. Sounds like a deal to me!

So, in other words, you want a quick fix?

Then get a ******** hamster. You feed it. You water it. You change the stuff in its cage. That's it.

A cat requires care, no matter what. But, hey, I guess that sofa's worth more than a faithful companion, hm?

Or, can I snip off my kids' fingers now without legal consequence?

yeah, I like the quick fix, and no I don't want a hamster.

cat =/= kid. So stop using that argument. They are two different things. I can get rid of a cat if it does something I do not like. I will not give up on my kid for any reason. I love my kid unconditionally, I love the cat as far as it won't destroy my house.

Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

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Anakha the Silver

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There are no emotional effects or changes after declawing, no trauma or the like. If the surgery is done right, the cat is under anesthesia and the whole bone and claw is clean cut off. Of course that cat has to get used to missing claws, but that's only a matter of time, as in any surgical procedure. Also why it's best to do it at a young age, less pain.

On other points you made, if the cat runs away for example and may need their claws, I'd advocate for only a front paw declaw. They don't scratch anything with their hind legs, least to my knowledge. eek

The benefits of declawing: a cat that doesn't kill the furniture. Even through extensive training, cat owners may struggle to train their cat, and let's face it, some of them are just plain untrainable. Other alternatives, like cutting their nails or putting caps on them, may simply not work. This goes especially for adopted cats that have been traumatized before, they just simply are what they are.

My older sister's a vet, so I'm pulling most of this out from her.

Not to be horribly rude, but your sister also makes money by declawing people's pets.

She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

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I have two cats, one of which was declawed by his previous owners; Mugen's former vet took too much of the bone, and the cat has some trouble with jumping down from high places. He has more trouble with the front left paw than the right, and on really bad days, the cat limps about the house and cries. According to his current vet, there's substantial damage and scar tissue that could have been avoided entirely simply by trimming his claws instead of amputating part of his paws.

Soft Paws, tiny little covers for kitty claws attached with some handy dandy glue, do work. They cover the nail only and do not prevent a cat from retracting his claws; the added bonus is that the things are fairly easy to put on a cat once you get the hang of it. Our youngest kitty is evil incarnate and has to wear Soft Paws or he does serious damage to, well, everything. In fact, the new vet jokes Gaara is the first kitty he's met in which he was tempted to declaw all four of his paws and de-tooth him for the safety of humanity, and then Dr. B handed me the Soft Paws since he actually doesn't do declaws at all. biggrin

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or just declaw, badda bing, badda boom, never have to go to the vet again except for health issues, and you also never have to try and find the 'new thing' out there for you to put on cats feet. Sounds like a deal to me!

So, in other words, you want a quick fix?

Then get a ******** hamster. You feed it. You water it. You change the stuff in its cage. That's it.

A cat requires care, no matter what. But, hey, I guess that sofa's worth more than a faithful companion, hm?

Or, can I snip off my kids' fingers now without legal consequence?

yeah, I like the quick fix, and no I don't want a hamster.

cat =/= kid. So stop using that argument. They are two different things. I can get rid of a cat if it does something I do not like. I will not give up on my kid for any reason. I love my kid unconditionally, I love the cat as far as it won't destroy my house.

Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

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The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

[Anakha the Silver]

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There are no emotional effects or changes after declawing, no trauma or the like. If the surgery is done right, the cat is under anesthesia and the whole bone and claw is clean cut off. Of course that cat has to get used to missing claws, but that's only a matter of time, as in any surgical procedure. Also why it's best to do it at a young age, less pain.

On other points you made, if the cat runs away for example and may need their claws, I'd advocate for only a front paw declaw. They don't scratch anything with their hind legs, least to my knowledge. eek

The benefits of declawing: a cat that doesn't kill the furniture. Even through extensive training, cat owners may struggle to train their cat, and let's face it, some of them are just plain untrainable. Other alternatives, like cutting their nails or putting caps on them, may simply not work. This goes especially for adopted cats that have been traumatized before, they just simply are what they are.

My older sister's a vet, so I'm pulling most of this out from her.

Not to be horribly rude, but your sister also makes money by declawing people's pets.

She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

SoftPaws are only bothersome if you put them on wrong. :/

And declawing should have a lot of legal s**t you go through first, because it should be a last resort. Otherwise, people hear about it and decide they're too lazy to try the other stuff, and just go get it done without even TRYING alternatives.

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So, in other words, you want a quick fix?

Then get a ******** hamster. You feed it. You water it. You change the stuff in its cage. That's it.

A cat requires care, no matter what. But, hey, I guess that sofa's worth more than a faithful companion, hm?

Or, can I snip off my kids' fingers now without legal consequence?

yeah, I like the quick fix, and no I don't want a hamster.

cat =/= kid. So stop using that argument. They are two different things. I can get rid of a cat if it does something I do not like. I will not give up on my kid for any reason. I love my kid unconditionally, I love the cat as far as it won't destroy my house.

Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

Quote:

The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

[Someoneiknow]

Anakha the Silver

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There are no emotional effects or changes after declawing, no trauma or the like. If the surgery is done right, the cat is under anesthesia and the whole bone and claw is clean cut off. Of course that cat has to get used to missing claws, but that's only a matter of time, as in any surgical procedure. Also why it's best to do it at a young age, less pain.

On other points you made, if the cat runs away for example and may need their claws, I'd advocate for only a front paw declaw. They don't scratch anything with their hind legs, least to my knowledge. eek

The benefits of declawing: a cat that doesn't kill the furniture. Even through extensive training, cat owners may struggle to train their cat, and let's face it, some of them are just plain untrainable. Other alternatives, like cutting their nails or putting caps on them, may simply not work. This goes especially for adopted cats that have been traumatized before, they just simply are what they are.

My older sister's a vet, so I'm pulling most of this out from her.

Not to be horribly rude, but your sister also makes money by declawing people's pets.

She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

SoftPaws are only bothersome if you put them on wrong. :/

And declawing should have a lot of legal s**t you go through first, because it should be a last resort. Otherwise, people hear about it and decide they're too lazy to try the other stuff, and just go get it done without even TRYING alternatives.

I sure hope you argue against abortion.

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yeah, I like the quick fix, and no I don't want a hamster.

cat =/= kid. So stop using that argument. They are two different things. I can get rid of a cat if it does something I do not like. I will not give up on my kid for any reason. I love my kid unconditionally, I love the cat as far as it won't destroy my house.

Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

Quote:

The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

What about a furry that thinks they're a catgirl, are they less than human but more than cat?

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yeah, I like the quick fix, and no I don't want a hamster.

cat =/= kid. So stop using that argument. They are two different things. I can get rid of a cat if it does something I do not like. I will not give up on my kid for any reason. I love my kid unconditionally, I love the cat as far as it won't destroy my house.

Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

Quote:

The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

I'm pointing out holes in your logic.

Justify kicking the cat out, but not the adopted kid, when they do the exact same thing. Justify it.

Oh, wait, that's because you're a heartless b*****d who wants a cat only to declaw it because your precious furnituuuuure.

[Blakaize]

Anakha the Silver

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There are no emotional effects or changes after declawing, no trauma or the like. If the surgery is done right, the cat is under anesthesia and the whole bone and claw is clean cut off. Of course that cat has to get used to missing claws, but that's only a matter of time, as in any surgical procedure. Also why it's best to do it at a young age, less pain.

On other points you made, if the cat runs away for example and may need their claws, I'd advocate for only a front paw declaw. They don't scratch anything with their hind legs, least to my knowledge. eek

The benefits of declawing: a cat that doesn't kill the furniture. Even through extensive training, cat owners may struggle to train their cat, and let's face it, some of them are just plain untrainable. Other alternatives, like cutting their nails or putting caps on them, may simply not work. This goes especially for adopted cats that have been traumatized before, they just simply are what they are.

My older sister's a vet, so I'm pulling most of this out from her.

Not to be horribly rude, but your sister also makes money by declawing people's pets.

She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

SoftPaws are only bothersome if you put them on wrong. :/

And declawing should have a lot of legal s**t you go through first, because it should be a last resort. Otherwise, people hear about it and decide they're too lazy to try the other stuff, and just go get it done without even TRYING alternatives.

Please tell me you don't live in the US?
Because you're basically taking away a person's right to choose between different options.
we don't live under YOUR rules, nor do we have to live up to your sense of right and wrong.

[Anakha the Silver]

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She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

SoftPaws are only bothersome if you put them on wrong. :/

And declawing should have a lot of legal s**t you go through first, because it should be a last resort. Otherwise, people hear about it and decide they're too lazy to try the other stuff, and just go get it done without even TRYING alternatives.

I sure hope you argue against abortion.

...WTF? Abortion = getting rid of something that CAN'T EVEN FEEL ANY PAIN, EVER.

How the hell is that similar to declawing in the LEAST?

Oh, wait, you're one of those pro-life ******** who thinks abortion = murder, aren't you?

[Someoneiknow]

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Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

Quote:

The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

I'm pointing out holes in your logic.

Justify kicking the cat out, but not the adopted kid, when they do the exact same thing. Justify it.

Oh, wait, that's because you're a heartless b*****d who wants a cat only to declaw it because your precious furnituuuuure.

because I love a child unconditionally, regardless of who gave birth to it. The cat is an animal, below me, and I will kick it out, shoot it, put it out of it's misery, whatever else, I will fight for a child/human-being.

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Then the solution is simple.

DON'T GET A ******** CAT.

And I compare them because they are fairly similar. A full-grown cat has been shown to have the mental capacity of a three-year-old. Therefore, they CAN be comparable.

Your three-year-old won't like it if the house is more important, and will therefore be taken away. Why shouldn't the cat be the same?

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

Also:

Quote:

The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

I'm pointing out holes in your logic.

Justify kicking the cat out, but not the adopted kid, when they do the exact same thing. Justify it.

Oh, wait, that's because you're a heartless b*****d who wants a cat only to declaw it because your precious furnituuuuure.

Actually, you can return an adopted child to the agency, especially if it's just a foster child.
And, where I live, we have a place called Kempher Village, a home for disobedient, unruly children they're parents can't handle anymore.
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They can literally send their children away, or make them wards of the states.
But then, a kid'd probably have to do really rotten s**t to make their parents resort to that. Like wrecking everything in the house just because they can, or not listening after multiple warnings, getting in trouble with the law.
2 of the 3 things listed are what cats can and probably want to do on a regular basis.
stare
Sorry, just poking holes in your logic.

[Anakha the Silver]

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Rainbow Retch

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Rainbow Retch

She doesn't declaw the pets. She owns a small pet clinic, and when someone wants their pets declawed, she sends them to a hospital. She's not evil or the like, she wants whats best for the pets she cares for, and thus doesn't reccomend older ones to be declawed.

Why not offer free trimmings? ~~ 's what my vet does. And my current cat gets them once every two weeks. In and out in five minutes.

Or there's something called SoftPaws. And then there's pheromone sprays that will keep cats from clawing certain things.

It doesn't just come down to declawing or dealing with torn-up furniture.

She DOES offer alternative options, but most of the cats she does trim have tempers, and could result in their vein getting chipped. Another option is the caps for their claws, but it's bothersome to the cat. Maybe your cat is a little more behaved then the ones she works with, because she comes home with scratches. All the options are kept for customers, if they want to use that spray, they can run off to the store and see if it works, though in the many cases it doesn't. She gives a whole packet to her cat-owners specifically for telling people how to train and deal with cats. Declawing is just an option that shouldn't be given rid of because it didn't work for some pets.

SoftPaws are only bothersome if you put them on wrong. :/

And declawing should have a lot of legal s**t you go through first, because it should be a last resort. Otherwise, people hear about it and decide they're too lazy to try the other stuff, and just go get it done without even TRYING alternatives.

Please tell me you don't live in the US?
Because you're basically taking away a person's right to choose between different options.
we don't live under YOUR rules, nor do we have to live up to your sense of right and wrong.

News flash, babe.

When you have restrictions on owning a gun despite the Constitution, you can't ******** talk about laws.

I just want people to, you know, explore options that COULD work but they're too lazy to otherwise take up because they just wanna get the cat declawed and sit on their fat asses.

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Someoneiknow

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Someoneiknow

Because my wife gave birth to the child, she didn't give birth to the cat. The child has a future and destiny, regardless of what it is. The cat is an animal that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to pet every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a cat? I will get her a cat, but the cat will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I adopt Jorge. Can I beat the s**t out of him because I didn't give birth to him?

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The catkid is an animalsomething that walks around demanding food every night. Yeah, it's great to have something to petcare for every so often, but if it decides to destory the house, and doesn't stop, I will get rid of it. And what if my wife wants a catkid? I will get her a catkid, but the catkid will follow by the boundaries I set, and I will work with it, but if it goes too far outside those boundaries, then it's gone, regardless.

I guess you don't mind putting your ten-year-old up for adoption because it disobeyed one too many times, then.

You are trying to justify a cat and compare it to a child? CAT=/=KID. Sorry, but they just don't, a cat is not a child, a cat is a cat. If I was on an island with a cat and my child, we would be having cat that night.

I'm pointing out holes in your logic.

Justify kicking the cat out, but not the adopted kid, when they do the exact same thing. Justify it.

Oh, wait, that's because you're a heartless b*****d who wants a cat only to declaw it because your precious furnituuuuure.

Actually, you can return an adopted child to the agency, especially if it's just a foster child.
And, where I live, we have a place called Kempher Village, a home for disobedient, unruly children they're parents can't handle anymore.
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They can literally send their children away, or make them wards of the states.
But then, a kid'd probably have to do really rotten s**t to make their parents resort to that. Like wrecking everything in the house just because they can, or not listening after multiple warnings, getting in trouble with the law.
2 of the 3 things listed are what cats can and probably want to do on a regular basis.
stare
Sorry, just poking holes in your logic.

A cat scratches to sharpen its claws out of *gaps* INSTINCT.

Lulz phail.