Consequences of Masturbation

[iynque]

[ Chocoholics_Anonymous ]

One problem, those "bulls" you mentioned. You said one had sperm that was worth some pretty big dough. HOw does the sperm get out? Someone has to masturbate the cow.

And plenty of animals in the animal kingdom masturbate, if it were bad they would stop doing it.

Masturbation increases the level on endorphins in teh body and can help with focus. It also helps many a teenager who can't get a ********.

And female masturbation doesn't have to be painful. Most of the female orgasm are achieved by external rubbing and not penetration.

word.

[PrototypeHastur]

iynque

PrototypeHastur

Considering the amount of time the average person masturbates a day, what the hell would they do with all that spare time?

Are you suggesting it's a lot of time, or a little?

It's not uncommon for a 13- or 14-year-old to masturbate 3, 4, or even 5 or 6 times per day.

Alot of time, sorry for unclarification.

And either they have more production than a pig that has 30 minute organisms. Or they just don't put out.

[azulmagia]

This is the silliest s**t I've seen posted on this forum in many a month.

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What could a human being do if he knew the mystery of the philosophical stone and learned how to release this energy of sperms within his own organism? The result would certainly be the superman.

surprised

As for

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Masturbation exhausts the calcium of the organism causing pains in the bones and fatigue in the legs. Strong bones indicate virility. It is known that red cells and platelets are formed in the bony marrow. The masturbating adolescent does not allow a good formation of his/her bony marrow and this brings consequences to him/her for the rest of life. When exhausting the phosphorus by masturbation, nervous problems and tremors are generated. With masturbation lecithin is exhausted too, and this generates nervous exhaustion, that is a general lethargy of nerves.

The calcium, lecithin etc. are nothing that the body can't get more of. So even if these allegations were true, the materials in question could be replenished merely by consumption of nutrients. "For the rest of life?" What is this, Engrish?

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"Concerning masturbating ones, you certainly know what the vice of masturbation is. When somebody masturbates, is committing a crime against nature. After entity of semen has been ejaculated, it remains such a peristaltic movement in the phallus, this is known by every man. When masturbating, cold air is absorbed by the phallus with the peristaltic movement. This goes later to the brain, therefore many cerebral faculties are exhausted. Innumerable men have become insane because of the abominable vice of masturbation. A full air brain is a stupid brain in a one hundred percent. So, we condemned this vice in a one hundred percent".

This is a ridiculous argument:

1. Just how "cold" is the "cold air" in question?

2. Just how much of it could be "absorbed" by the said peristaltic action?

3. The air goes later to the brain? By what mechanism? And since the body is warm, and the head is some distance from the crotch, the cold air will hardly be all that cold presuming it even gets there.

This is pseudoscience, execrable pseudoscience. The idea that there is a naturalistic basis for the belief that masturbation is immoral or even a "crime against nature" is a long debunked notion.

"Innumerable men have become insane because of the abominable vice of masturbation." Considering the percentage of men who have owned up to masturbating in behavioural studies, and comparing the results to known rates of mental illness, about four seconds worth of introspection is enough to convince any adult of average intelligence that such a statement is self-evidentally absurd.

[Lieutenant_Charon]

Wait wait, what if he's being sarcastic.

Because I will admit it, I rofl'd.

[PrototypeHastur]

Don't worry Azulmagia, There are worst out there plaguing the ED.

[Seirya]

azulmagia, are you telepathic? Because you 'stolen my thunder' as we say down under.

A couple of technicalities I'd like to point out with some of Onidama's argument, just because I can. Excuse me if I don't correlate my arguments with the order Onidama presents them in.

While it's true that sperm that isn't ejaculated is reabsorbed into the body (you're always making sperm, so what else could you do with it?), I hardly think that an abstaining man would be superhuman compared to one who doesn't. I mean, you'd think that someone'd notice after all these centuries of living, right? There had to be someone who didn't masturbate long enough to find out.

Calcuim and phosphorus aren't only found in the bone. Nerves and muscles and anything else that needs energy does too. If you really did exhaust all, or most of, your calcium and phosphorus, you wouldn't get just tremors. You'd probably have tetanus where no calcuim is available to start contractions, and no ATP to relax muscles.
And by the way, while red blood cells are formed in the bone marrow, they're still based on iron molecules, not calcium.

There really isn't all that much volume to ejaculated semen, no matter how much there appears to be. You probably could repelish any alleged 'lost' Ca and Phosphorus in your next meal. And since men continually produce semen from adolescence unto death, loss of spermatozoa isn't really an issue.
Besides, why don't we see prostitutes affected by this continuous release of 'sexual energy'?

If you're going to talk about 'crimes against nature', and if the release of semen even in sex is a loss of 'sexual energy', how're we supposed to reproduce?
And I highly doubt that people will use a mechanical device to get the seed from the bull, which would cost more money on an already expensive operation, when it'd be far cheaper to physically induce the bull to ejaculate.

The level of testosterone in your blood isn't necessarily influenced by the amount of sperm being produced. Well, actually, if you've got too much sperm, your testosterone level is going to swing down becuase of negative feedback mechanisms.

I do believe that melatonin is the hormone of your internal clock rather than of 'eternal youth', if my quick google of that hormone is to be believed. And the human magnetic field isn't even enough to affect a really light and thin compass needle held in your hand, and mostly generated my the electrical impulses in your brain, not the pineal gland.

As to exhaustion, people are probably more exhausted after sex than after masturbation, and if you ask around, the majority of women would pick sex over masturbation. I wonder why?

[Guardian-Knight]

Wow... I havent seen so much superstitious tripe compiled so neatly in a package of Engrish in a helluva long time. You sir, made me laugh in the funny place, where i laugh at things that go beyond simply ABSURD, and into the realm of what must be very deliberate self discipline in the areas of burying ones head in the sands of a theological system espoused and created probably before or when people still thought leeches and bleeding were wonderfully safe and sane medical practices.

Ignorant "spiritual" belief's being passed off as Pseudoscience is the real "crime against nature" here.

[Oni no Tenshi]

Freudian views on masturbation have been disproven over and over again. The fact that Freud based most of his ideas on ONE case study and his own personal beliefs is one of the biggest reasons for why Freud is no longer considered to be "right" about masturbation.

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In 1994, the 14th World Congress of Sexology adopted the Declaration of Sexual Rights. This document of “fundamental and universal human rights” included the right to sexual pleasure. This international gathering of sexuality scientists declared, “Sexual pleasure, including autoeroticism, is a source of physical, psychological, intellectual and spiritual well-being” (WAS, 1994).

Despite this scientific view, the belief that sex has a negative effect upon the individual has been more common in many historical and most contemporary cultures. In fact, Western civilization has a millennia-long tradition of sex-negative attitudes and biases. In the United States, this heritage was relieved briefly by the “joy-of-sex” revolution of the ‘60s and ‘70s, but alarmist sexual viewpoints retrenched and solidified with the advent of the HIV pandemic. Today’s public discourse about sexuality is almost exclusively about risks and dangers: abuse, addiction, dysfunction, infection, *****, teen pregnancy, and the struggle of sexual minorities for their civil rights. Public discourse about the physiological and psychosocial health benefits of sexual expression has been almost entirely absent (Reiss, 1990; Davey Smith, et al., 1997).

However, pioneering researchers have demonstrated many of the various health benefits of sexual expression, including its positive physical, intellectual, emotional, and social dimensions (Ogden, 2001).

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A study with a 10-year follow-up was conducted in Caerphilly, South Wales, to examine the relationship between frequency of orgasm and mortality. From 1979 to 1983, 918 men aged 45-59 were recruited to the study. The men were given a physical examination, including a medical history, and blood pressure, electrocardiogram, and cholesterol screenings. They were also asked about their frequency of orgasm. At the 10-year follow-up, it was found that the mortality risk was 50 percent lower among men who had frequent orgasms (defined in this study as two or more per week) than among men who had orgasms less than once a month. Even when controlling for other factors such as age, social class, and smoking status, a strong and statistically significant inverse relationship was found between orgasm frequency and risk of death. The authors of this study conclude that "[s]exual activity seems to have a protective effect on men's health" (Davey Smith, et al., 1997).

Source: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/news-articles-press/politics-policy-issues/medical-sexual-health/The-Health-Benefits-of-Sexual-Expression.htm

[Zeta_Dragoon]

Thats alotta info to swallow...

[Onidama]

Seirya

azulmagia, are you telepathic? Because you 'stolen my thunder' as we say down under.

A couple of technicalities I'd like to point out with some of Onidama's argument, just because I can. Excuse me if I don't correlate my arguments with the order Onidama presents them in.

While it's true that sperm that isn't ejaculated is reabsorbed into the body (you're always making sperm, so what else could you do with it?), I hardly think that an abstaining man would be superhuman compared to one who doesn't. I mean, you'd think that someone'd notice after all these centuries of living, right? There had to be someone who didn't masturbate long enough to find out.

Calcuim and phosphorus aren't only found in the bone. Nerves and muscles and anything else that needs energy does too. If you really did exhaust all, or most of, your calcium and phosphorus, you wouldn't get just tremors. You'd probably have tetanus where no calcuim is available to start contractions, and no ATP to relax muscles.
And by the way, while red blood cells are formed in the bone marrow, they're still based on iron molecules, not calcium.

There really isn't all that much volume to ejaculated semen, no matter how much there appears to be. You probably could repelish any alleged 'lost' Ca and Phosphorus in your next meal. And since men continually produce semen from adolescence unto death, loss of spermatozoa isn't really an issue.
Besides, why don't we see prostitutes affected by this continuous release of 'sexual energy'?

If you're going to talk about 'crimes against nature', and if the release of semen even in sex is a loss of 'sexual energy', how're we supposed to reproduce?
And I highly doubt that people will use a mechanical device to get the seed from the bull, which would cost more money on an already expensive operation, when it'd be far cheaper to physically induce the bull to ejaculate.

The level of testosterone in your blood isn't necessarily influenced by the amount of sperm being produced. Well, actually, if you've got too much sperm, your testosterone level is going to swing down becuase of negative feedback mechanisms.

I do believe that melatonin is the hormone of your internal clock rather than of 'eternal youth', if my quick google of that hormone is to be believed. And the human magnetic field isn't even enough to affect a really light and thin compass needle held in your hand, and mostly generated my the electrical impulses in your brain, not the pineal gland.

As to exhaustion, people are probably more exhausted after sex than after masturbation, and if you ask around, the majority of women would pick sex over masturbation. I wonder why?

I have no problem agreeing with you. Thank you for posting, thats all I care about it your opinions. Being superman doesn't really mean the person will be superman, it varies on health and sex together. This is not just sex alone.

Sex is healthy, but masturbating the normal way is something to avoid, I have better masturbating techniques that are much more safer than pulling the skin repeatably which is the normal technique.

I would recommend people to have sex once a year or so. Safe sex. I also recommend them to use chiqong. Ejaculation should be considered important and should not be abused as like its nothing but full of pleasure. Marriage is supposed to be very important to people. Many people do not take marriage seriously in the 21st century in America which is true. That would be the same with sex and masturbation.

I am not saying that people should stop masturbating or stop having sex. It can be healthy in some way. But if you are looking for something else such as becoming a muay thai fighter in a competition, I would avoid having sex or masturbating at all cost. Since I need my sexual energy to execute my devastating attacks.

[Shawnael]

As much as I'd like to disagree with the OP, I do see some logic to this theory. As an athlete (swim/water polo), I give up all forms of sexual pleasure at least two weeks before a meet or game. Sex during the week before a meet will drain my energy and relax my muscles too much. But, lack of sex builds energy, and the anticipation of release after a competition only fuels my will to compete. I have more energy, take less notice of pain, and I'm more focused on the task at hand. The "sexual energy" the OP is talking about isn't complete bullshit.

[Defiance of God]

O noez!!! I pleasurez meselph! I vil di3!!! le gasp????

Get over it, I have never heard of such bullshit. Mastrubation is perfectly natural, people have done it for centuries.

[Kuro_Kitsune_Bard]

I'm not wading through all this crap you posted, instead I'm going to point out a few key follies.

OP

"Vice of masturbation, as much in young men as in young ladies has become commoner than washing hands. Mental hospitals are full of men and women who ruined their brain with the sickening vice of masturbation. Mental hospitals are the destiny of masturbating people".

That's funny, I rofled. Seriously, show me some ******** proof or get out, ok? Show me proof that masturbation is directly related to one's mental state, show me some reliable statistics or something, PLEASE.

OP

Some modern sexologists also affirm that the relations through the a**s are optional and satisfactory. In fact, each organ of the body performs a specific function and the a**s is to defecate. Those who have sexual relations through the a**s, damage their sphincters and generates an easy process of hemorrhoids and infections at level of the large intestine and duodenum. These type of relations are constituted in a high-risk factor of sexual transmission diseases, among homosexual men.

You do know that thousands of nerve endings exist in the rectum, which when stimulated usually result in pleasure. So the -intended- function of the a**s is be a passage for feces to be removed through, however, you can't proove that that is the only function. Just like you can't proove that the only function of sex is for reproduction.

Damage to the a**s as well as infections only happen when the participating parties are not careful enough or prepared enough; ie, not using enough lubrication or not stretching enough. Hemorrhoids are only caused from a**l sex if too little lubrication is used, casuing strain to the walls of the rectum.

But just because someone is possibly at risk of infection, hemorrhoids and damage to their a**s does'nt make this activity inherently bad for you. Oh and you can't proove that this happens to every single person who has a**l sex.

OP

When a person starts masturbating before completing his development (21 in men), the prostate is atrophied and this originates prostitis when being on the forties, that is the enlargement of this gland which prevents from urinating and obligates to use a catheter. Later on, he must be operated and this gland is extirpated. This operation as well as vasectomy generates SEXUAL IMPOTENCE.

Proove that masturbation makes the prostate gland atrophy. If anything, it HELPS. It helps get rid of "old" sperm and reduces the carcinogenic deposits in sperm that can damage the lining of the prostate.

OP

Masturbation is also common among women and this is something painful and cruel. Within the parallel of female sex, the consequences are similar: it affects the development of the brain, nerves, sexual and produces female impotence, physical exhaustion, loss of memory, vitality and magnetism. The worst consequences occurs on the sexual part and in the psycho-social behavior. Woman starts rejecting man because her sexual possibilities decrease progressively. Woman who does not masturbate, keep on her vitality, beauty, the sparkle in her eyes, powerful magnetic field, good pitch, etc. Women should avoid porn, vulgar conversations, as well as struck up a friendship with good people.

How can a female become impotent through masturbation? What do you think she does, lose an egg every-time she masturbate? No. talk2hand That is unless you are referring to her sexual performance, which, if anything, becomes BETTER through masturbation. It tones the muscles of her v****a, increases secretions which in turn maintains the PH of the vaginal environment (along with regular secretions not related to masturbation), and acquaints the female with her sexuality which is useful in sexual relations with others.

Most of that sounds like a bunch of chauvinistic bullshit to me though. Like I've said before, I want to see solid proof of all these supposed accusations of yours.

I'd like you test your theories of this "energy" before you start passing them off as fact. Your "facts" are as much "theory" as you debunk the so-called theories of actual doctors, who, you know, actually KNOW stuff, have actually done experiments, observed, etc etc.

I really feel like this thread belongs in Morality and Religion, because I see very little scientific facts in your huge wall of text that has a serious case of "needs spell-check".

[Kuro_Kitsune_Bard]

Shawnael

As much as I'd like to disagree with the OP, I do see some logic to this theory. As an athlete (swim/water polo), I give up all forms of sexual pleasure at least two weeks before a meet or game. Sex during the week before a meet will drain my energy and relax my muscles too much. But, lack of sex builds energy, and the anticipation of release after a competition only fuels my will to compete. I have more energy, take less notice of pain, and I'm more focused on the task at hand. The "sexual energy" the OP is talking about isn't complete bullshit.

Sounds a bit much to abstain TWO weeks beforehand, but if it works for you, kudos, but I don't get it.

Yes, if you masturbated the day of your meet, you'd probably be too relaxed because of all the endorphins floating around after your release, but I am pretty sure that doing it the day before will not affect your performance the next day. If you can proove otherwise, then that prooves that everyone is different.