closed "Worlds Youngest Transsexual" Kim Petras

this was

Great	41.3%	[ 31 ]
Wast of time	10.7%	[ 8 ]
Indifferent	20.0%	[ 15 ]
How olds she now?	9.3%	[ 7 ]
Umm hunnn	18.7%	[ 14 ]
Total Votes:			[ 75 ]

[Aeggnis]

I guess you would have to aim for as young as possible if you were gender-wrong. You can't grow up with the wrong childhood gender memories after all.

[AnthroScorp]

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Yet I again feel bad for those that do such things
I really think and believe if the trans person is up front at the start
or when they think or feel things are getting more
serious they should pull the person aside and
talk with them hell, go to a public place like a park by a
cop station, or the library, that way the other, somewhat
has to keep there cool, just give them the chose is all I'm saying

"Up front at the start" gets people killed. Later, when you know someone well enough to have an idea how they might react, is another story... but by then, there's emotional attachments messing with the rational considerations - and a bit of resentment that this is even an issue, when it *wouldn't* be if they'd been born cisgendered.

EthelbertOddity

to me being fair and upfront is
more important then keeping something
like that from there partner, out of fear of losing them
or getting hurt.. again to me it seems the trans person
just doesn't care enough about the person there dating
and there safety as much as there own..

I would say that anyone who makes an issue out of this is no better.

burning_eyes
Oh and lying doesn't??.

Only if you get caught.

EthelbertOddity

I don't like being referred to as a cisgendered person also
so please don't use that in referring to me in the future..

I don't like being referred to as a liar for not 'outting' myself at the first viable opportunity.

burning_eyes
And that's the problem "when you get caught..."

Unless your a trans person who, dates someone and
doesn't tell them that your trans after you've started dating them
then yeah I'm calling you a lier, because that's what
your doing to the other person and by definition are...

[AnthroScorp]

The Living Force

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Yet I again feel bad for those that do such things
I really think and believe if the trans person is up front at the start
or when they think or feel things are getting more
serious they should pull the person aside and
talk with them hell, go to a public place like a park by a
cop station, or the library, that way the other, somewhat
has to keep there cool, just give them the chose is all I'm saying

"Up front at the start" gets people killed. Later, when you know someone well enough to have an idea how they might react, is another story... but by then, there's emotional attachments messing with the rational considerations - and a bit of resentment that this is even an issue, when it *wouldn't* be if they'd been born cisgendered.

EthelbertOddity

to me being fair and upfront is
more important then keeping something
like that from there partner, out of fear of losing them
or getting hurt.. again to me it seems the trans person
just doesn't care enough about the person there dating
and there safety as much as there own..

I would say that anyone who makes an issue out of this is no better.

burning_eyes
Oh and lying doesn't??.

Only if you get caught.

EthelbertOddity

I don't like being referred to as a cisgendered person also
so please don't use that in referring to me in the future..

I don't like being referred to as a liar for not 'outting' myself at the first viable opportunity.

I like how trans people, to many people, can't be anything but lying traps. Fantastic. confused

What's their problem with being referred to as cisgendered?

burning_eyes
I never said all trans persons
I said once you started dating
(by dating I mean going around meeting important people
in one anothers life, should you both have them..)

to be fair and tell the other person that your a transgendered person
because if you don't you are in fact trapping that other
person, lying to them, and just being over all
unfair to them, and the relationship you'd both started..

also like many trans people dislike being referred to as
there birth gender, for the simple fact they don't identify as
that title or don't like it...

I feel the same as being called cisgend, I simply don't
like it and once asked to not be called or referred to
as it in a personal way, just want the other party to respect
my view/feelings chose, and if they don't then simple as this
I'll not show that person or persons the same respect...

[AnthroScorp]

The rose in spring

I do not believe that he is a man. I believe he will always remain a boy.

burning_eyes
If this statement is referring to
me, two things really you don't know me, nor
have under your current name talked with me

so however you've come to your opinion is
questionable..

[The Living Force]

EthelbertOddity

The Living Force

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Kaosgirl

"Up front at the start" gets people killed. Later, when you know someone well enough to have an idea how they might react, is another story... but by then, there's emotional attachments messing with the rational considerations - and a bit of resentment that this is even an issue, when it *wouldn't* be if they'd been born cisgendered.



I would say that anyone who makes an issue out of this is no better.

burning_eyes
Oh and lying doesn't??.

Only if you get caught.

EthelbertOddity

I don't like being referred to as a cisgendered person also
so please don't use that in referring to me in the future..

I don't like being referred to as a liar for not 'outting' myself at the first viable opportunity.

I like how trans people, to many people, can't be anything but lying traps. Fantastic. confused

What's their problem with being referred to as cisgendered?

burning_eyes
I never said all trans persons
I said once you started dating
(by dating I mean going around meeting important people
in one anothers life, should you both have them..)

to be fair and tell the other person that your a transgendered person
because if you don't you are in fact trapping that other
person, lying to them, and just being over all
unfair to them, and the relationship you'd both started..

also like many trans people dislike being referred to as
there birth gender, for the simple fact they don't identify as
that title or don't like it...

I feel the same as being called cisgend, I simply don't
like it and once asked to not be called or referred to
as it in a personal way, just want the other party to respect
my view/feelings chose, and if they don't then simple as this
I'll not show that person or persons the same respect...

Do you come out and tell a person you're dating, when you get serious, that you're cisgendered?

If you're not trans, you're cisgendered. That's just how it is. We can refrain from saying it around you, I guess, but it doesn't change anything, really.

[Meroko_Love]

Well, she's ignorant as hell to say "I liked pink and Barbie!" ... as if men are not "real men" for liking these things? neutral

She needs to get involved with some Trans support groups or something to change her Cissexual worldview.

[Desideraht]

Meroko_Love

Well, she's ignorant as hell to say "I liked pink and Barbie!" ... as if men are not "real men" for liking these things? neutral

She needs to get involved with some Trans support groups or something to change her Cissexual worldview.

That's what I said and then I got hella trolled. lol

[Kelsie Is A Sheep]

I'm glad she got it done. When you know, you know.
I'm just wondering if she will have to have any more surgeries as her body matures more.

[AnthroScorp]

Quote:

The Living Force: Do you come out and tell a person you're dating, when you get serious, that you're cisgendered?

If you're not trans, you're cisgendered. That's just how it is. We can refrain from saying it around you, I guess, but it doesn't change anything, really.

burning_eyes
Please don't quote me
until after the current mini-event.. thank you..

I ask you again to not refer to me as that,
and to be fair that makes no reasonable
since as the other person unless they
had never been in a relationship before

would know that I'm in my proper
birth gender, as I'm a guy/male and would
be dating what I'd believe is a female
unless they are trans and didn't inform me...

and if you can't respect someone enough when
they ask you to not refer to them in a certain term
then I'll not refer to you in the term you want/like...
that changes everything... and I don't agree if your
not a trans person you should have to be called

cis gendered, it's not respectful to the none trans
person if you don't ask them or make sure it's
alright with them... so that does make a big difference...

[Agent Thrax]

Captain Verd

Agent Ego

A conspiracy is any amount of cooperation towards a common goal.

Mr. Incredible works alone.

I don't know what it is you're talking about here, but it makes no sense.

[The Living Force]

EthelbertOddity

Quote:

The Living Force: Do you come out and tell a person you're dating, when you get serious, that you're cisgendered?

If you're not trans, you're cisgendered. That's just how it is. We can refrain from saying it around you, I guess, but it doesn't change anything, really.

burning_eyes
Please don't quote me
until after the current mini-event.. thank you..

I ask you again to not refer to me as that,
and to be fair that makes no reasonable
since as the other person unless they
had never been in a relationship before

would know that I'm in my proper
birth gender, as I'm a guy/male and would
be dating what I'd believe is a female
unless they are trans and didn't inform me...

and if you can't respect someone enough when
they ask you to not refer to them in a certain term
then I'll not refer to you in the term you want/like...
that changes everything... and I don't agree if your
not a trans person you should have to be called

cis gendered, it's not respectful to the none trans
person if you don't ask them or make sure it's
alright with them... so that does make a big difference...

Why don't I have the privilege of knowing if you're your "proper birth gender?"

And for the record, that's an incredibly offensive statement. The proper birth gender naturally being the one you were born with. You're normal, so why should they even have to wonder? Junior, get over yourself.

Well damn, with fronds like these... I mean, if you're going to be patronizing as s**t, why the hell would we treat you as you feel you deserve. Seriously, if you demand to know that a person is trans, I would demand to know if you were cis. It's only fair, right? If you didn't tell me, I'd flip my s**t. I'd feel betrayed because you made a lie of omission. Right?

How is it not respectful to the non-trans? It just describes someone who isn't trans. It's not a swear word. It's not rude. It's just a descriptor. I BALK AT BEING CALLED A DUCK DESPITE MY DUCKINESS.

And I'll always quote Imperial scum. FOR THE REPUBLIC.

[Agent Thrax]

Meroko_Love

Well, she's ignorant as hell to say "I liked pink and Barbie!" ... as if men are not "real men" for liking these things? neutral

She needs to get involved with some Trans support groups or something to change her Cissexual worldview.

Real men don't ******** like Barbie. Pure noncontextual logic (e.g. "it's not demonstrably impossible for a real man to like Barbie dolls" wink is the only thing what supports your theory.

[AnthroScorp]

Quote:

he Living Force: Why don't I have the privilege of knowing if you're your "proper birth gender?"

And for the record, that's an incredibly offensive statement. The proper birth gender naturally being the one you were born with. You're normal, so why should they even have to wonder? Junior, get over yourself.

Well damn, with fronds like these... I mean, if you're going to be patronizing as s**t, why the hell would we treat you as you feel you deserve. Seriously, if you demand to know that a person is trans, I would demand to know if you were cis. It's only fair, right? If you didn't tell me, I'd flip my s**t. I'd feel betrayed because you made a lie of omission. Right?

How is it not respectful to the non-trans? It just describes someone who isn't trans. It's not a swear word. It's not rude. It's just a descriptor. I BALK AT BEING CALLED A DUCK DESPITE MY DUCKINESS.

And I'll always quote Imperial scum. FOR THE REPUBLIC..

burning_eyes
Please don't quote me
until after the current mini-event.. thank you..

The Living Force
why would you quote me when I clearly asked you not too?

I'd think you'd ask or refer to me as the gender
I'm displaying, isn't that what you as a trans gendered want?

also your taking things both out of content and
if anything making trans person look bad,

I'm not younger then you, and when you refer
to me as a cis person after I asked you not to
guess what that's an incredibly offensive statement

but if you can't understand simple things
like this, I have no reason to keep
talking with you about this.. so I wont..

give respect, when it's given to you or
don't expect any in return.. good eve/day/morn

[Agent Thrax]

EthelbertOddity

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Kaosgirl

EthelbertOddity

Yet I again feel bad for those that do such things
I really think and believe if the trans person is up front at the start
or when they think or feel things are getting more
serious they should pull the person aside and
talk with them hell, go to a public place like a park by a
cop station, or the library, that way the other, somewhat
has to keep there cool, just give them the chose is all I'm saying

"Up front at the start" gets people killed. Later, when you know someone well enough to have an idea how they might react, is another story... but by then, there's emotional attachments messing with the rational considerations - and a bit of resentment that this is even an issue, when it *wouldn't* be if they'd been born cisgendered.

EthelbertOddity

to me being fair and upfront is
more important then keeping something
like that from there partner, out of fear of losing them
or getting hurt.. again to me it seems the trans person
just doesn't care enough about the person there dating
and there safety as much as there own..

I would say that anyone who makes an issue out of this is no better.

burning_eyes
Oh and lying doesn't??.

Only if you get caught.

EthelbertOddity

I don't like being referred to as a cisgendered person also
so please don't use that in referring to me in the future..

I don't like being referred to as a liar for not 'outting' myself at the first viable opportunity.

burning_eyes
And that's the problem "when you get caught..."

Unless your a trans person who, dates someone and
doesn't tell them that your trans after you've started dating them
then yeah I'm calling you a lier, because that's what
your doing to the other person and by definition are...

... So, are you cisgendered or transgendered?

[AnthroScorp]

burning_eyes
I asked to not be quoted until after the event

I'm a person, not a gender..
if you can't understand that
then you'll never understand me..

so please again don't quote
me until after mini event