Christains in the Military.

[I got bored one day]

Zero Payne

On the contrary my dear illogical friend, I didn't snap, I asked further questions to see if you make assumptions again, which you have, only to prove my point, you assume far too much to know anything of which you speak.

No, you're hiding in my shadow. It's clear as day, namely because I am the light, and you the shadow, there's no way a copy can beat the original.

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I do believe we are all unstable as humans, being how we are all emotional creatures.
And you are hiding, since you make so many assumptions on me, I shall return those assumptions on you, but my end proves more, being how you never reply with anything witty, you just point it out all on me to shine the light on yourself, even though the fashion you did it is low, and over-rated.

The very nature of your thinking shows you've fallen into a specific type of internal turmoil. You're displacing your very self in an attempt to undermine. This is what makes you a puppet in the first place; you are consciously laughing at the idea, and subconsciously worried about it.

[I got bored one day]

Michael Noire

note: I could have spent more time building that up, but meh, whatever.

You really should have. The climax isn't very good and a little more persuasion would have been nice. After all many of the prophets went against the Jewish state, you know.

[Zero Payne]

Death and Misery

Zero Payne

On the contrary my dear illogical friend, I didn't snap, I asked further questions to see if you make assumptions again, which you have, only to prove my point, you assume far too much to know anything of which you speak.

No, you're hiding in my shadow. It's clear as day, namely because I am the light, and you the shadow, there's no way a copy can beat the original.

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I do believe we are all unstable as humans, being how we are all emotional creatures.
And you are hiding, since you make so many assumptions on me, I shall return those assumptions on you, but my end proves more, being how you never reply with anything witty, you just point it out all on me to shine the light on yourself, even though the fashion you did it is low, and over-rated.

The very nature of your thinking shows you've fallen into a specific type of internal turmoil. You're displacing your very self in an attempt to undermine. This is what makes you a puppet in the first place; you are consciously laughing at the idea, and subconsciously worried about it.

But you get more cocky at every reply, which shows you're backing further in to a corner, and indeed I am the shadow, and you're the light, because I'm making you dim.
You fail to see what is really happening here, I'm showing you to be an over-cocky p***k who assume he's always right, and I'm proving you to be an idiot, sure you know big words, but you have no idea as to how to use them correctly, let alone make any logical statement, you repeat yourself like a broken record, you repeat the same thing over, and over.
What you say, you mine as well be saying "Oh I'm better than you in every way" which is being cocky, which shows further defeat.

[MiaTheOrigin]

Death and Misery

MiaTheOrigin

Death and Misery

There is a stark difference between being alone and being lonely. Some of the greatest men and women of the world lived their lives alone, with acquaintances kept at arms length if not further, fulfilling their social needs and sexual needs by whim rather than by intimate connection. Such was wise. Also do you not understand that humans are selfish? We do not cry for the dead; we cry for ourselves. Even when cut down in our prime we are sorry for our loss, it is the living who suffer, not the dead, so why should I care that nature has taken it's course?

People of relatively close nature have died before. It was only the first time this occurred that I foolishly mourned them prior to discovering I was simply mourning myself. So, I don't function in your worldview, what now?

Educate me.

I totally agree with this. Then, is it possible for a human to be selfless? In a word unconditional love?

No. Such things can only be woven into one's nature; it is not something you can will.

I understand =3.

[I got bored one day]

Zero Payne

But you get more cocky at every reply, which shows you're backing further in to a corner, and indeed I am the shadow, and you're the light, because I'm making you dim.

The dimmer I get the more you fade, isn't that how a shadow works? The fact of the matter is very simple: You are frivolously attempting to gain an upper-hand against someone clearly out of your league.

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You fail to see what is really happening here, I'm showing you to be an over-cocky p***k who assume he's always right, and I'm proving you to be an idiot, sure you know big words, but you have no idea as to how to use them correctly, let alone make any logical statement, you repeat yourself like a broken record, you repeat the same thing over, and over.

The only thing you are showing is your desperation. You are typical, so a typical response is expected, and here you are delivering without fail. You call simple terms "big words", and you are proving me to be an "idiot" by continuously showing your insecurities.

I'm cocky and backed into a corner? Then why can't you just finish me off? Are you confident that it's me who's trapped?

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What you say, you mine as well be saying "Oh I'm better than you in every way" which is being cocky, which shows further defeat.

I am better than you in every way. I am not hiding it. I am confident it is true. You're the one who can't hold his mind together.

[f a t a l d e v o t i o n]

Death and Misery

Why is that so hard? Humans can lie. God cannot. I do not see the difficulty in this reasoning. Why do I need 6 billion versions of myself when I can have one version of a being thousands upon thousands times greater than the collective? Why do I need you?

Not hard. You are not thinking your answers through logically. My answer is based upon the hypothetical mind you've created for yourself. If you believe everything's a conspiracy, then I repeat myself, how is it, in that state of mind, that you can believe that god is who he says he is? Can he provide proof that he is the one and only god you know of and cannot harm you? I find it very difficult that you yourself cannot see the logical order of my own thinking. It is unfathomable that you are unable to logically think of a way to explain yourself given a scenario. On the bolded part -- Where in the world did this come from? It is irrelevant to the given scenario.

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I know most people aren't anything but puppets and zombies feeding off of the words given to them like children would for candy. They are told what to believe, and believe it, told what to fight for and fight for it, told how to live and live it. It's when you're asked "Who are you?" that you curl in terror, when it goes beyond those superficial characteristics and into the very weaving of your personality and the identity you label as yourself. After a while you begin to learn to decipher who is and is not right about who they are.

Okay, you can say that and it is kind of true, but again, irrelevant to the scenario. So explain to me how this is an answer to anything I have stated. You are getting side-tracked. Perhaps you are confusing my argument with Zero's? Blending them together doesn't make you sound smart, I suggest you reorganize your answers into logical responses to the arguments presented to you.

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What if no one speaks to me? Am I all alone? Is faith unjustified? Yes, mental illness built upon devout faith, how original, how absolutely daft. What are you going to tell me next? That death is upon me for my foolishness, when you don't even know or understand what's going on in front of you? I need no voices. I need not any physical sense. This is something far beyond your 6th.

I am using obvious statements because you, yourself, fail to include them in your arguments, which by fault means that you did not execute all means of covering the material. Which, in turn, can result in the obvious being thrown back into your face. And okay, I'd like to try to live in the world without using your senses to understand the world around you, and in doing so, you'd have to start from scratch any pre-existing knowledge that you have of the world would be taboo because it was experienced with senses. Therefore, how can you know what you know without them? Because seeing (this includes reading) means that you cannot possibly believe what you have read merely because you read it, and because you read it, that implies that it does not make it true. Therefore, what you have seen, read, etc means absolutely nothing and carries no meaning or regard or knowledge of the world. Thus, basically, making your argument invalid because you have seen what you have writ.

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I read books. It seems to save me a lot of the trouble you fools seem to pursue. "How can you learn from the present if you don't seek future err?" What a stupid question. Why do I have to make any mistakes? Why can't I avoid all of these pitfalls by knowing and eliminating the sources? Why does it always end with that pitiful excuse? Experience is hardly a valuable teacher.

Learning from someone else's experience through a novel is just the same. It is similar to a parable or a moral story. Just because said experiences may be fictional does not mean that they are not in and of themselves experiences. Another thought would be as to why people do not learn at all, when history is constantly repeating itself and wars are continually fought without regard to examining past reasonings, thus making an ever continuing cycle of stupidity. Knowledge through thought is not the same as knowledge through action, nonetheless each provides valuable lessons from it. People typically do not learn by merely understanding, but more so through actions. As is the common saying, "actions speak louder than words", however, I need not remind you of that because you think that you are far too knowledgeable to even think about common sense.

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There is a stark difference between being alone and being lonely. Some of the greatest men and women of the world lived their lives alone, with acquaintances kept at arms length if not further, fulfilling their social needs and sexual needs by whim rather than by intimate connection. Such was wise. Also do you not understand that humans are selfish? We do not cry for the dead; we cry for ourselves. Even when cut down in our prime we are sorry for our loss, it is the living who suffer, not the dead, so why should I care that nature has taken it's course?

People of relatively close nature have died before. It was only the first time this occurred that I foolishly mourned them prior to discovering I was simply mourning myself. So, I don't function in your worldview, what now?

Educate me.

In being alone for a period of time, one becomes lonely, for someone, who does not like the obvious, you surely never take it into consideration. Okay, they had acquaintances, meaning they were not alone, you need to rethink what the word means. However, my argument was that in the given scenario you had cut yourself off from the world, thus implying you were alone, without acquaintances, obviously. Humans are insanely selfish, I will give you that. And yes, it is true, they cry for themselves, but that is beside the point, the point of the matter in said scenario (as pointed out, yet again -- your powers of observation and comprehension continue to fail you, at a certain point I'm going to have to stop throwing answers at you) was that you felt pain for yourself. Many people do not function in "worldview", I was merely giving you the paradoxes upon which average idiots think. None of them actually know the true reasons for most of their feelings, but in understanding, I suppose you are sympathizing with them by explaining them. That does not in any way say that you are on par with me. You overlook the obvious, and the obvious are important points, and by overlooking such, your arguments are completely compromised by them. A complete mundane answer would totally jeopardize your entire "worldview" merely because you do not stop to even think of the mundane. More and more people would question your view and ask you to explain it rather that spend their time disputing with you as I have done. At least I can give you a valid argument, whereas commonplace people would not have even had the knowledge of such statements. Moreover, you are completely ignorant in thinking that most people do see the world from your point of view, eventually you will have to explain in terms that regular idiots can comprehend.
Now, can you keep up with me and properly remain on topic?

[Auntie Proton]

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

I always thought that meant more like 'Thou shall not murder.' Ya know, cain and abel style.
Killing to defend your country and your countrymen, when other, better options are not available, is honorable in my opinion.

[Singh Is Back]

The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Death and Misery's problem. To plunge right into it, implying that anyone who dares to tell you a little bit about him and his treasonous assertions can expect to suffer hair loss and tooth decay as a result is no different from implying that the existence and perpetuation of racism is its own moral justification. Both statements are ludicrous.

That fact is simply inescapable to any thinking man or woman. "Thinking" is the key word in the previous sentence. Death and Misery has an uncritical—almost a worshipful—attitude toward the worst types of censorious snobs there are. I'll stand by that controversial statement and even assume that most readers who bring their own real-life experience will agree with it. At a bare minimum, Death and Misery says that it's okay to leave the educational and emotional needs of our children in the silly hands of passive-aggressive slackers. That's his unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely revolting and foolish lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by Death and Misery's protégés. Moving on, when people see pestiferous carousers behaving like pestiferous carousers they begin to realize that Death and Misery's most superstitious tactic is to fabricate a phony war between unrestrained cretins and crafty muttonheads. This way, he can subjugate both groups into helping him declare a national emergency, round up everyone who disagrees with him, and put them in concentration camps. I sincerely don't want that to happen, which is why I'm telling you that this is a fundamental and obvious truth that Death and Misery utterly ignores. (The merits of Death and Misery's pleas won't be discussed here because they lack merit.)

Can you believe that Death and Misery actually stated that we can stop jujuism merely by permitting government officials entrée into private homes to search for scary, ungrateful scofflaws? I was stunned until I remembered that if you can make any sense out Death and Misery's disruptive mottos then you must have gotten higher marks in school than I did. Though his ipse dixits be madness, yet there is method to them. Step by step, they make it easier for Death and Misery to resort to ad hominem attacks on me and my family. It strikes me as amusing that he complains about people who do nothing but complain. Well, news flash! Death and Misery does nothing but complain.

Isn't it historically demonstrated that Death and Misery has let his untoward feelings obscure reality? I ask because it is mathematically provable that I obviously refuse to kowtow to his sesquipedalianism-oriented cult. I'm not actually familiar with the proof for that statement and wouldn't understand it even if it were shown to me, but it seems very believable based upon my experience. What's also quite believable is that mass anxiety is the equivalent of steroids for Death and Misery. If we feel helpless, Death and Misery is energized and ramps up his efforts to rely on the psychological effects of terror to magnify the localized effects of his crusades so that, like a stone hurled into a pool of water, shock waves ripple from the epicenter of Death and Misery's attacks to the furthest reaches of the Earth. If he is going to talk about higher standards then he needs to live by those higher standards. This is not the first time I've wanted to enlighten the mind of Man and improve him as a rational, moral, and social being. But it is the first time I realized that he has somehow made up his mind that he has a "special" perspective on statism that carries with it a "special" right to lower scholastic standards. It seems to me that what he is doing is jumping to a hasty conclusion in the absence of adequate data. A more reasoned analysis would reveal that Death and Misery is thoroughly mistaken if he believes that principles don't matter.

While we may all pray for a perfect utopian world in which everyone is holding hands and singing "We Are the World" in perfect harmony, the reality is that Death and Misery promises his cronies that as soon as he's finished challenging all I stand for, they'll all become rich beyond their wildest dreams. There's an obvious analogy here to the way that vultures eat a cadaver and from its rottenness insects and worms suck their food. The point is that Death and Misery is typical of manipulative yobbos in his wild invocations to the irrational, the magic, and the fantastic to dramatize his perversions. In his quest to leave behind a wake of balmy reaction he has left no destructive scheme unutilized.

The basal lie that underlies all of Death and Misery's yawping prank phone calls is that he does the things he does "for the children". Translation: No one is smart enough to see through Death and Misery's transparent lies. I doubt you need any help from me to identify the supreme idiocy of those views but you should nevertheless be aware that Death and Misery's principles are a house of mirrors. How are we to find the opening that leads to freedom? The answer is too well-known to bear repeating, but I should comment that Death and Misery's shills consider his pranks a breath of fresh air. I, however, find them more like the fetid odor of snobbism.

Death and Misery keeps saying that the federal government should take more and more of our hard-earned money and more and more of our hard-won rights. Isn't that claim getting a little shopworn? I mean, he should shift for himself. So let him call me deplorable. I call him infernal. It has long been obvious to attentive observers that his commitment to propagandism is only part of the story. But did you know that Death and Misery's mudslinging, contumacious manifestos have led to more, not less, metagrobolism in our society? Death and Misery doesn't want you to know that because he wants nothing less than to muzzle his critics, hence his repeated, almost hypnotic, insistence on the importance of his putrid epigrams.

If I have a bias, it is only against superficial nincompoops who legitimize the fear and hatred of the privileged for the oppressed. Although some dictatorial misogynists reluctantly concede that the acquisition and consolidation of wealth and power are the motivating forces that drive all of Death and Misery's deceitful decisions, they invariably deny that Death and Misery's maudlin preoccupation with credentialism, usually sicklied over with such nonsense words as "elecroencephalographic", would make sense if a person's honor were determined strictly by his or her ability to oppose the visceral views of 98 percent of the nation's citizens. As that's not the case, we can conclude only that it would be better for Death and Misery to do nothing than to marginalize and eventually even outlaw responsible critics of self-centered nutcases. For that reason, an increasing number of people abhor Death and Misery's cuckoo witticisms and are looking for alternatives, like the truth. This issue is coming to the fore because Death and Misery argues that society is supposed to be lenient towards vexatious sybarites. To maintain this thesis, Death and Misery naturally has had to shovel away a mountain of evidence, which he does by the desperate expedient of claiming that people prefer "cultural integrity" and "multicultural sensitivity" to health, food, safety, and the opportunity to choose their own course through life.

For your edification, I should point out that to get even the simplest message into the consciousness of caustic malingerers it has to be repeated at least fifty times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following fifty times, but no one likes being attacked by morally questionable, combative ignoramuses of various stripes. Even worse, Death and Misery exploits our fear of those attacks—which he claims will evolve any day now into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks—as a pretext to blame those who have no power to change the current direction of events. If you think that's scary, then you should remember that the one thing that's central to all of Death and Misery's unpleasant, verbally incontinent monographs is a desire to numb the public to the pessimism and injustice in mainstream politics. I call this the New Resistentialism. The old resistentialism was concerned only with stirring up trouble. Although that was bad enough, Death and Misery's modes of thought are not pedantic treatises expressing theories or extravaganzas dealing in fables or fancies. They are substantial, sober outpourings from the very soul of philistinism.

We find among narrow and uneducated minds the belief that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point. This belief is due to a basic confusion that can be cleared up simply by stating that Death and Misery ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. In case you're not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the idea, not the person. He will combine the most sordid avarice with the most invincible hatred of the very people who tolerate and enrich him in the coming days—not necessarily by direct action, but by convincing his forces to spam the Internet with unsolicited peevish junk e-mail. Try as I may, I can't understand why Death and Misery would want to wipe out delicate ecosystems. Anyway, that's it for this letter. Let Death and Misery read it and weep.

[f a t a l d e v o t i o n]

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On a further note, any continuation of repetition from you will be ignored.

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[Zero Payne]

Death and Misery

Zero Payne

But you get more cocky at every reply, which shows you're backing further in to a corner, and indeed I am the shadow, and you're the light, because I'm making you dim.

The dimmer I get the more you fade, isn't that how a shadow works? The fact of the matter is very simple: You are frivolously attempting to gain an upper-hand against someone clearly out of your league.

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You fail to see what is really happening here, I'm showing you to be an over-cocky p***k who assume he's always right, and I'm proving you to be an idiot, sure you know big words, but you have no idea as to how to use them correctly, let alone make any logical statement, you repeat yourself like a broken record, you repeat the same thing over, and over.

The only thing you are showing is your desperation. You are typical, so a typical response is expected, and here you are delivering without fail. You call simple terms "big words", and you are proving me to be an "idiot" by continuously showing your insecurities.

I'm cocky and backed into a corner? Then why can't you just finish me off? Are you confident that it's me who's trapped?

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What you say, you mine as well be saying "Oh I'm better than you in every way" which is being cocky, which shows further defeat.

I am better than you in every way. I am not hiding it. I am confident it is true. You're the one who can't hold his mind together.

Hm, okay kid, I'll let you win the little internet war, but I won the fight, because I've made more points than you ever could, and that point is the fact you're an overly cocky religious kid, who is probably really 12 years old, asking for help from his parents in order to attempt to degrade me.

[f a t a l d e v o t i o n]

Singh Is Back

The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Death and Misery's problem.

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The rest of it doesn't really matter to me, i love you for this smile Again, another obvious truth completely overlooked by mr. complicated and not "worldview" http://gaiarch.gaiatools.com/emotes/5oxlvl.gif
---edit: if you wanted to go for president, i'd vote for you > 3>

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[I got bored one day]

f a t a l d e v o t i o n

Not hard. You are not thinking your answers through logically. My answer is based upon the hypothetical mind you've created for yourself. If you believe everything's a conspiracy, then I repeat myself, how is it, in that state of mind, that you can believe that god is who he says he is? Can he provide proof that he is the one and only god you know of and cannot harm you? I find it very difficult that you yourself cannot see the logical order of my own thinking. It is unfathomable that you are unable to logically think of a way to explain yourself given a scenario. On the bolded part -- Where in the world did this come from? It is irrelevant to the given scenario.

You're horrible at this. How are you to tell me how my hypothetical mind works? I'd rather you just ignore me. It's clear you've warped the situation in your favor. Psychology would never work for you as a career.

[Grapes and Fried Chicken]

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

Because this is the only translation of the bible and you're always right. Amirite?

[I got bored one day]

Zero Payne

Hm, okay kid, I'll let you win the little internet war, but I won the fight, because I've made more points than you ever could, and that point is the fact you're an overly cocky religious kid, who is probably really 12 years old, asking for help from his parents in order to attempt to degrade me.

This was expected. Take care of yourself.

[Singh Is Back]

f a t a l d e v o t i o n

Singh Is Back

The only thing worse than being ignorant is not knowing how ignorant you are. That's Death and Misery's problem.

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The rest of it doesn't really matter to me, i love you for this smile Again, another obvious truth completely overlooked by mr. complicated and not "worldview" http://gaiarch.gaiatools.com/emotes/5oxlvl.gif
---edit: if you wanted to go for president, i'd vote for you > 3>

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I would like to lend a helping hand. But first, I'm going to jump ahead a bit and talk in general terms about how I will not play Death and Misery's wily, manipulative games and create division in the name of diversity just like he does. Then, I'll back up and fill in some of the details. Okay, so to start with the general stuff, he has never disproved anything I've ever written. Death and Misery does, however, often try to discredit me by means of flagrant misquotations, by attributing to me views that I've never expressed. In the end, if he could have one wish, he'd wish for the ability to ridicule, parody, censor, and downgrade opposing ideas. Then, people the world over would be too terrified to acknowledge that no one likes being attacked by uncompromising, contumelious blatherskites. Even worse, Death and Misery exploits our fear of those attacks—which he claims will evolve in the immediate years ahead into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks—as a pretext to use nihilism as a more destructive form of antipluralism. If you think that's scary, then you should remember that the virus of sensationalism took control of our country's political life long ago. Now, thanks to Death and Misery's analects, that virus will continue to spread until no one can recall that just because Death and Misery and his jackals don't like being labelled as "effrontive witlings" or "larcenous, incoherent televangelists" doesn't mean the shoe doesn't fit. Now that I've told you what I think, let me end this letter by stating that I fully intend to provide you with vital information that Death and Misery has gone to great lengths to prevent you from discovering. Let Death and Misery tremble. And though the heavens fall, let there be justice.