Christains in the Military.

[Ninth Pariah]

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

Look up the....What was the original language they used for the writing of the oral traditions? Greek or Aramaic or something. Maybe Hebrew for the OT. There's a suffix that makes it mean "Kill wrongly," or murder.

[xPurdah]

CH1YO

Why on earth would you start with the Crusades?

You could have at least picked a campaign that was set about for reasons that were clearly not just.

In my opinion the Crusades were for greedy reasons.

[Imaginary Marionette]

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

.. I'm not a Christian. Don't make assumptions.

And that is a mistranslation.

[Ratreoz]

Atlus-sama

museik

Atlus-sama

hmmm to be honest,they might see it as defending rather than killing.

what does God see it as?

well in my opinion god sees it as defense,surely he cannot expect for a human to turn the cheek if his family is being threatened.besides god should forgive if it's justifiable.

but then again I'm not a christian so I really have no say in the manner.

How is it defence to invade another country and murder the inhabitants? I'm thinking mainly of the U.S here.

[museik]

Imaginary Marionette

My Mom says: Because 'thou shalt not kill' should have actually been translated as 'thou shalt not murder' and when you're doing you're job as a solider, that's not considered murder.
My Mom is a pretty good source, she was a devout christian for the majority of her life.

but is she God?

[museik]

Imaginary Marionette

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

.. I'm not a Christian. Don't make assumptions.

And that is a mistranslation.

with all the different versions of the bible, both are correct. you're both morons for arguing

[Atlus-sama]

Ratreoz

Atlus-sama

museik

Atlus-sama

hmmm to be honest,they might see it as defending rather than killing.

what does God see it as?

well in my opinion god sees it as defense,surely he cannot expect for a human to turn the cheek if his family is being threatened.besides god should forgive if it's justifiable.

but then again I'm not a christian so I really have no say in the manner.

How is it defence to invade another country and murder the inhabitants? I'm thinking mainly of the U.S here.

well I was being general when I spoke,but even then alot of soldiers still see it
as retaliation rather than invasion,to ensure a victory so things like 9/11 might never
happen again,or other reasons similar to that...but we all really know what's going on
even though we might not want to admit it.

[Imaginary Marionette]

museik

Imaginary Marionette

My Mom says: Because 'thou shalt not kill' should have actually been translated as 'thou shalt not murder' and when you're doing you're job as a solider, that's not considered murder.
My Mom is a pretty good source, she was a devout christian for the majority of her life.

but is she God?

Yes.

No, but she's right. I can find sources if you need them.

[Imaginary Marionette]

museik

Imaginary Marionette

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

.. I'm not a Christian. Don't make assumptions.

And that is a mistranslation.

with all the different versions of the bible, both are correct. you're both morons for arguing ..The point of the ED is to debate. So I think we're being pretty... non-moronic.

[xPurdah]

Regardless of if it's murder or killing, don't most Christians think it's wrong to play God? I'd hope so. And isn't killing someone, even for good causes, playing God?

[I got bored one day]

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

Death and Misery

xPurdah

From the Crusades to the present Christians have been killing for the "right" causes. But how can Christians justify war? Isn't one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

I'm asking this to Christains who are for wars. Does killing people in battle not count?

Actually it's "Thou shalt not murder".

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

I'm going to take it, without telling us the version or even the book, that you are simply looking for trouble.

[museik]

Imaginary Marionette

museik

Imaginary Marionette

xPurdah

Imaginary Marionette

-wins-

“Thou shalt not kill” ( Exodus 20:13).
No you lose. You're both bad Christians for not knowing.

.. I'm not a Christian. Don't make assumptions.

And that is a mistranslation.

with all the different versions of the bible, both are correct. you're both morons for arguing

Quote:

..The point of the ED is to debate. So I think we're being pretty... non-moronic.

oh that argument was going somewhere.. sorry

[Repellant]

Christians in the military doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when the same people who shout "Go, go, go!" "Fire!" and "Fall back!" are the same ones who by nightfall say "Let's pray."

[I got bored one day]

xPurdah

Regardless of if it's murder or killing, don't most Christians think it's wrong to play God? I'd hope so. And isn't killing someone, even for good causes, playing God?

No. God passes the final judgment however the concept of punishment and detainment is not only in the Talmud, it's one of the fundamentals of their lifestyle; it is strict about what is to be done.

[Atlus-sama]

xPurdah

Regardless of if it's murder or killing, don't most Christians think it's wrong to play God? I'd hope so. And isn't killing someone, even for good causes, playing God?

alot of variables take upon that,
such as science,medicine,government.

all of these can also be considered as "playing god" but
only we as a society can determine what is passable or not.