Break the left/right paradigm to save the U.S.

[Voltaylor]

Princess Z-M

Voltaylor

JayDi Blaze

Voltaylor

Kevin Copenhagen
Infowars

Stopped here. Anyone who reads this dribble and thinks it to be truth needs to pass whatever they are smoking down the line.

Tell that to the millions of people that think the same as I. How can you not read something and then tell someone to not read because it's dribble? That's incredibly close minded. Ignorance is bliss, just don't be surprised when your bliss turns to fear when you realize that you have no freedom left. Want to speak out or protest? Nope, you get shut up, and maybe for good.

LOLZ.

Irony is also bliss isn't it. Really if you are so open minded how can you call being close minded because they don't believe in your ideals? Isn't that the same kind of d**k move thinking that you are supposedly fighting against? You sound no different than most GOP members.

I wanna say you are Pockybot's troll account but you're too lame. Pockybot makes a tad more sense than your a**.

If you are so open minded then you would have read the article, and you would have known that both sides are screwed up! I said he was close minded for not reading the article, not because he doesn't believe in "my ideals." Freedom from tyranny isn't an ideal but the birth right of every human. It seems this Pockybot works on lower levels if you of all people can make sense of what he writes.

And to JayDi Blaze:
You presume too much. Just because it says Infowars doesn't mean it's complete bullshit. If you would have actually read it, then maybe you would think twice before bashing it. I don't agree with everything that Jones does and says. I don't follow any leader or any one person. And the way that people defend Jones reminds of certain voters. If you know of a better website, then post it in here. I'm not so high and mighty that I am unwilling to actually look at another's information and go to different sources. In the end it's about the information and discerning the info from the dis-info, the way it's always been with this type of material, and then acting on it. And the main reason why I posted this is because I thought it was one of the better articles from Infowars.

[Kaosgirl]

Voltaylor

The dots are there, all you have to do is connect them.

If you look at the stars in the sky, you can play connect-the-dots to make the shape of mythological beasts.

Is this proof that the Olympiad Pantheon were, in fact, the true gods? Or is it just an example of man's ability to make connections fit to pre-existing beliefs?

[Voltaylor]

Kaosgirl

Voltaylor

The dots are there, all you have to do is connect them.

If you look at the stars in the sky, you can play connect-the-dots to make the shape of mythological beasts.

Is this proof that the Olympiad Pantheon were, in fact, the true gods? Or is it just an example of man's ability to make connections fit to pre-existing beliefs?

You would be right if we were talking about beliefs, but we are not. The article I presented wasn't based on beliefs but on information and an opinion formed from that. Great try at painting this in a "religious" light. I wish I could refute you more but post is too vague. I'm not sure what part of the article you don't like.

[Kaosgirl]

Princess Z-M

Voltaylor

JayDi Blaze

Voltaylor

Kevin Copenhagen
Infowars

Stopped here. Anyone who reads this dribble and thinks it to be truth needs to pass whatever they are smoking down the line.

Tell that to the millions of people that think the same as I. How can you not read something and then tell someone to not read because it's dribble? That's incredibly close minded. Ignorance is bliss, just don't be surprised when your bliss turns to fear when you realize that you have no freedom left. Want to speak out or protest? Nope, you get shut up, and maybe for good.

LOLZ.

Irony is also bliss isn't it. Really if you are so open minded how can you call being close minded because they don't believe in your ideals? Isn't that the same kind of d**k move thinking that you are supposedly fighting against? You sound no different than most GOP members.

I wanna say you are Pockybot's troll account but you're too lame. Pockybot makes a tad more sense than your a**.

Pockybot also usually does his own thinking, instead of just copypasta on someone else's.

OTOH, neither of them really talk much of what comes after seeing The Truth. I mean ok, let's say there's something to all this. Now what - drinking the kool-aid of some other guy who promises "change we can believe in," only to find out he's just as tainted as the rest of them were?

[Kaosgirl]

Voltaylor

Kaosgirl

Voltaylor

The dots are there, all you have to do is connect them.

If you look at the stars in the sky, you can play connect-the-dots to make the shape of mythological beasts.

Is this proof that the Olympiad Pantheon were, in fact, the true gods? Or is it just an example of man's ability to make connections fit to pre-existing beliefs?

You would be right if we were talking about beliefs, but we are not. The article I presented wasn't based on beliefs but on information and an opinion formed from that. Great try at painting this in a "religious" light. I wish I could refute you more but post is too vague. I'm not sure what part of the article you don't like.

The religion was just an analogy. The stars represent the information, the image of Orion killing the Lion represents the opinion formed from that information.

The real question is why one opinion is demonstrably superior to any other.

I can see the connections you're talking about. I can also see other connections that look equally plausible to me. Granted, I haven't waded through the entirety of your copypasta link collection quite yet - nor looked into the criticisms and rebuttals. What I don't see is convincing evidence to accept one over the other. Nor do I see a viable 'next step.'

Well, other than "tear it all down and start fresh." But then, some of the 'other connections' I see have got some people already trying that approach.

[Princess Z-M]

Voltaylor

If you are so open minded then you would have read the article, and you would have known that both sides are screwed up!

I never said I was "opened-minded". I am very "close-minded" to a fault.Espeically when it comes to bullshit like this.

Voltaylor

I said he was close minded for not reading the article, not because he doesn't believe in "my ideals."

Which is being very close-minded within itself. He gave a pretty decent reason for it.

Voltaylor

Freedom from tyranny isn't an ideal but the birth right of every human.

So you believe. I believe humans are like any other animal on this planet. We usually need to have some sort of dominate/submissive structure to keep afloat. Without it we usually go insane. If we don't have the King and Queen, we have presidents or hell semi-gods running things.

Voltaylor

It seems this Pockybot works on lower levels if you of all people can make sense of what he writes.

Wow how the hell can you post in this forum without knowing Pockybot? No he doesn't work on "lower levels" (nice insult btw it only proves my point about you) however, like you and all the other anti-government teens/young adults on the forum. You post all this BS about the evil powers that be however you don't suggest any action to take. If all the leaders are puppets and these wars are started rich fat cats then what can little old us do? The answer is nothing FYI so why worry about it. If voting and such don't mean anything since it's as fixed as American Idol contestants why trip on this s**t? Sure being an educated sheep might be better than a meek and weak one, but at the end of the day a sheep is a sheep. You have no power to change the current world affairs and most likely never will. So why b***h? (Oh, because you have a computer? Which now just a glorified soap box)

I think it would be better if you all go smoke some pot and write something worth a damn. Then wasting your time with this evil governments mumbo jumbo s**t.

Yeah the world isn't perfect but it's the only one we have. It can't get any worst or better. Even if it did it wouldn't last for long anyways.

Voltaylor

And the main reason why I posted this is because I thought it was one of the better articles from Infowars.

Well you been proven wrong.

[skull52]

Because, four.

[Princess Z-M]

Kaosgirl

Pockybot also usually does his own thinking, instead of just copypasta on someone else's.

Hmm, no he's more like the self-righteous college "star" student that just sprews back what they read into their own words which are usually business/pre-legal majors. It's the same dribble really.

Kaosgirl

OTOH, neither of them really talk much of what comes after seeing The Truth. I mean ok, let's say there's something to all this. Now what - drinking the kool-aid of some other guy who promises "change we can believe in," only to find out he's just as tainted as the rest of them were?

THANK YOU!

If the whole system is ******** what's the bloody the point. If Bush was a puppet what the hell is Obama? A Muppet? I mean hell he's a bit more lovable (at least for a while).

Like yeah knowing the "truth" is fine and dandy but really this "tech-base" generation isn't going to do s**t with it. If the Hippies and Freedom fighters of years past couldn't fulfill all their needs; how the hell will this lazy a** 360/Wii playing, forum ranting, youtube copyright violators, socially backwards, txt tlking generation take on the evil governments?

Answer: They aren't. Since the majority of them are too busy powering up either their pokemonz, WOW characters, or ranting on a ******** teen center forum site. Even if they did plan some big rally or government take over they wouldn't do anything better. History has proven this a million times over.

[Le Cynique]

Maybe we can just go ahead an revert everything back to 1776...There was a lot of "freedom" then, wasn't there?

No, there was not. The argument that we're losing our freedom because of "universal health-care" and other social programs that cost tax dollars but not because of rampant conformity and rat-racing along with tyrannical Christian traditions is absurd. And no, you don't want the left and the right to go away, just the left, that's painfully clear. Let's not lie to ourselves, k?

[The Great Heat Miser]

Princess Z-M

THANK YOU!

You're welcome.

[Comrade Tool]

End the fed, blah blah blah, destroy the income tax, blah blah blah, kill healthcare reform, blah blah blah, I'm the real patriot! That's all I got from this. Seriously it's just a bunch of rhetoric dressed up real nice while it's only actually saying a few things.

[Kaosgirl]

Princess Z-M

Kaosgirl

Pockybot also usually does his own thinking, instead of just copypasta on someone else's.

Hmm, no he's more like the self-righteous college "star" student that just sprews back what they read into their own words which are usually business/pre-legal majors. It's the same dribble really.

Kaosgirl

OTOH, neither of them really talk much of what comes after seeing The Truth. I mean ok, let's say there's something to all this. Now what - drinking the kool-aid of some other guy who promises "change we can believe in," only to find out he's just as tainted as the rest of them were?

THANK YOU!

If the whole system is ******** what's the bloody the point. If Bush was a puppet what the hell is Obama? A Muppet? I mean hell he's a bit more lovable (at least for a while).

Like yeah knowing the "truth" is fine and dandy but really this "tech-base" generation isn't going to do s**t with it. If the Hippies and Freedom fighters of years past couldn't fulfill all their needs; how the hell will this lazy a** 360/Wii playing, forum ranting, youtube copyright violators, socially backwards, txt tlking generation take on the evil governments?

Answer: They aren't. Since the majority of them are too busy powering up either their pokemonz, WOW characters, or ranting on a ******** teen center forum site. Even if they did plan some big rally or government take over they wouldn't do anything better. History has proven this a million times over.

Well...

It is theoretically possible they might do better. Precedent aside, past results do not dictate future performance and all that.

But it's unlikely. Nietzche's Trap is hard to avoid.

[Princess Z-M]

Kaosgirl

Well...

It is theoretically possible they might do better. Precedent aside, past results do not dictate future performance and all that.

But it's unlikely. Nietzche's Trap is hard to avoid.

Never happen before and humans are always doom to repeat the same mistakes (with some various of course) I mean the US is fighting a war (or more) against terror using terror tactics just saying. Meanwhile all systems of government have their weak and strong points.

Judging from the past performance from this generation yeah I think we would have it a lot worst. Way too many of my peers sound like dumb-a** know-it-all and have that whole internet semi-god persona going on.

I don't believe more than half of them understand how a government or ruling parties work. I know I sure as hell don't.

[Kaosgirl]

Princess Z-M

Kaosgirl

Well...

It is theoretically possible they might do better. Precedent aside, past results do not dictate future performance and all that.

But it's unlikely. Nietzche's Trap is hard to avoid.

Never happen before and humans are always doom to repeat the same mistakes (with some various of course)

That's one way to look at it.

Another is to remember that before Sputnik we'd never managed to put a sattelite into orbit either. Just because it's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done at all.

Though of course, the old adage about "doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results" comes to mind as well.

Princess Z-M

Judging from the past performance from this generation yeah I think we would have it a lot worst. Way too many of my peers sound like dumb-a** know-it-all and have that whole internet semi-god persona going on.

I don't believe more than half of them understand how a government or ruling parties work. I know I sure as hell don't.

It's not like the previous attempts didn't have their share of fools involved.

[Princess Z-M]

Kaosgirl

That's one way to look at it.

Another is to remember that before Sputnik we'd never managed to put a sattelite into orbit either. Just because it's never been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done at all.

Though of course, the old adage about "doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results" comes to mind as well.

That's only if you want to believe in the space stuff though some people still don't believe any of that stuff (LOLZ). Good point though. Yes humanity to a fault is pretty insane we still don't seem to understand using violence to end violence just leads to a stalemate and have you going in circles.

Kaosgirl

It's not like the previous attempts didn't have their share of fools involved.

Damn, you got me. Good job! biggrin