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Alright, the way I see it is... If the atheists are right, right? I don't think they are, but if they are... Then when you die, then you're dead, right? And there's nothing left, you're just dead.

So... How does it HELP to convert people from religion?

If being right provides no actual BENEFIT, then isn't it better to be happy than to be right? If believing it doesn't HURT anyone, why does it MATTER if they believe it?

Now, I'm not talking about arguing with people who start the argument... But why always jump on it if all they're doing is going to church?

Life is sort of meaningless, isn't it? So being wrong, if it doesn't HARM you, well... It doesn't HARM you. So why all the arguing about it?

Really, what I'm getting at here is why does truth actually MATTER?
 
     
 
The truth does not matter as long as the lies do not hinder our growth. Some people are hindered by religion, but if the philosophies we had allowed us to continue whilst blissfully unaware of our impending doom and the gloom of the earth all is well. Those philosophies are few and far between though.
     
Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.
 
     
 
Gho the Girl
Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.


Why?

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not saying I have a problem with non-antagonistic atheists.
     
Knowledge of the self allows for a person to understand their own happiness and attain it. Therefore, if I am to maximize happiness, I could employ such a method and be successful.
Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is nothing and does nothing for or against happiness. Knowledge is bliss.
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Andre LeFarr
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Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.


Why?

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not saying I have a problem with non-antagonistic atheists.

Because ignorance is worse than pessimism
     

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Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.


Why?

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not saying I have a problem with non-antagonistic atheists.
Why?

Why hold anything more important than anything else? Why value truth over contentment, or contentment over truth?

These are questions that cannot be answered by anyone other than those who hold these values.
 
     
 
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Andre LeFarr
Gho the Girl
Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.


Why?

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not saying I have a problem with non-antagonistic atheists.

Because ignorance is worse than pessimism
Is it?
     
Choosing to interpret reality based specifically on how happy it makes you is just an odd thing to do. Usually harmless, no doubt, but the fact remains.
 
     
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Knowledge of the self allows for a person to understand their own happiness and attain it. Therefore, if I am to maximize happiness, I could employ such a method and be successful.
Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is nothing and does nothing for or against happiness. Knowledge is bliss.
In fact, I think I'll make that my signature.
Really? I'd like you to show how knowledge as opposed to ignorance is bliss.
     
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Choosing to interpret reality based specifically on how happy it makes you is just an odd thing to do. Usually harmless, no doubt, but the fact remains.

Why does it matter if something is odd?
If you don't believe something is worthwhile, then say so.
 
     
 
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Choosing to interpret reality based specifically on how happy it makes you is just an odd thing to do. Usually harmless, no doubt, but the fact remains.
how is it odd?
     
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Andre LeFarr
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Truth matters to antagonistic atheists because they have decided that it is more important than another's personal contentment.


Why?

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not saying I have a problem with non-antagonistic atheists.

Because ignorance is worse than pessimism


How is it worse, though? If there's no point to life, if life is meaningless... Why BOTHER being right? Because there's no punishment for being wrong... There's nothing you GET from being right, except the satisfaction of your right-ness. Which is fulfilling. So take fulfillment where you can get it. And if you don't get it from the truth, get it somewhere else.
 
     
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Because ignorance is worse than pessimism.
I wonder how many people could truly face the day if they were awake and aware of the world around them 100%.
     
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