Black people 'less intelligent' scientist claims

[bluerain202]

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October Peahen

Discriminating others because of there intelligence is no different then racism or any other kind of prejudice.

So you'd be happy with an untrained moron performing brain-surgery on you? The difference between discriminating based on race and intelligence is that intelligence is a measurable quality proven to matter, whereas race hasn't.

I hope a black brain surgeon never saves your life, you obviously have some mental issues dealing with "hate".

[Kimihiro_Watanuki]

bluerain202

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October Peahen

Discriminating others because of there intelligence is no different then racism or any other kind of prejudice.

So you'd be happy with an untrained moron performing brain-surgery on you? The difference between discriminating based on race and intelligence is that intelligence is a measurable quality proven to matter, whereas race hasn't.

I hope a black brain surgeon never saves your life, you obviously have some mental issues dealing with "hate".

He's/she's right. I'm a black indetified mulatto and I'm saying he's right. I wouldn't want a less qualified and less intelligent person even attempting to save my life when someone who is far more qualified is availible, regardless of race.

Besides that, IQ is based on a bell curve, which can easily changed if my black kin would step up and stop trying to live off welfare checks all the time. The days of "the white devil trying to keep us down" are long gone.

[Alethiometer]

bluerain202

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October Peahen

Discriminating others because of there intelligence is no different then racism or any other kind of prejudice.

So you'd be happy with an untrained moron performing brain-surgery on you? The difference between discriminating based on race and intelligence is that intelligence is a measurable quality proven to matter, whereas race hasn't.

I hope a black brain surgeon never saves your life, you obviously have some mental issues dealing with "hate".

you obviously have some mental issues with understanding the point of peoples' posts.

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bluerain202

I've been privately educated,

Not very well, apparently.

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but since you are a racist I'm just not going to bother to even attempt to sway you. There's no point.

Read: "I am unable to argue with your fact based rather than emotionally based beliefs, so I won't."

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And Jews have had Albert Einstein n' Freud(though I hate the latter).

And? So what? Are you saying that Jews did better because they had smarter people? That sounds a lot like what I'm saying.

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Most of the number system you see here wasn't from White civilization, go read the book Zero: a biography of a number.

I know that. The concept of having a place-holder for no value (that is, zero) was invented somewhere near India, I believe. That's not my point.

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I'm not going to argue about s**t that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is this bigot's unsupported opinion.

Mine or the scientists? Both are the topic at hand, and both are supported. If you haven't noticed, that list of five in my previous post is called "support".

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I don't care if you think you can support your white culture supremacy bulllshit, becasue it would have been known to you that through cultural diffusion we advanced together.

Advanced together, yet we within America we have distinct Mexican and other Spanish cultures, multiple white cultures, at least two somewhat different black cultures, and numerous Middle Eastern and Asian cultures. There is quite definitely a difference in cultures. Anyone who can't see that is blinded by Political Correctness bullshit. Whether or not any are superior can be argued. I say some are.

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Egyptians invented paper for heaven's sake,

And Egyptians made my list of greatest civilizations of all time. In fact, I remember having pointed them out by name when I said that there is not genetic difference in races that can be seen consistently through history. You might have missed it, because you wanted to demonize me as much as you can in your own mind to add validity to your opinion.

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you don't need to bullshit with "they improved on them". I'm sure the chinese's fireworks got improved special for July 4th.

Go to a globe or world map, locate China and then Japan. You will notice that they are not the same country. Also, I will admit that the Chinese are one of those great, non-white civilizations. They invented gun-powder, made structural marvels that the rest of the world couldn't even imagine at the time, and were the hot-s**t guys all of Europe wanted to trade with for a long time.

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/done discussing racist stupidity with you/

I'm not racist. I'm not saying black civilizations suck because of any genetic flaw built into them. They just haven't produced a leader that can advance them to higher levels yet, even though countless others have. If Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X had been born in Africa, they may have made something of it. Unfortunately, they didn't.

[bluerain202]

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bluerain202

I've been privately educated,

Not very well, apparently.

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but since you are a racist I'm just not going to bother to even attempt to sway you. There's no point.

Read: "I am unable to argue with your fact based rather than emotionally based beliefs, so I won't."

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And Jews have had Albert Einstein n' Freud(though I hate the latter).

And? So what? Are you saying that Jews did better because they had smarter people? That sounds a lot like what I'm saying.

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Most of the number system you see here wasn't from White civilization, go read the book Zero: a biography of a number.

I know that. The concept of having a place-holder for no value (that is, zero) was invented somewhere near India, I believe. That's not my point.

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I'm not going to argue about s**t that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is this bigot's unsupported opinion.

Mine or the scientists? Both are the topic at hand, and both are supported. If you haven't noticed, that list of five in my previous post is called "support".

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I don't care if you think you can support your white culture supremacy bulllshit, becasue it would have been known to you that through cultural diffusion we advanced together.

Advanced together, yet we within America we have distinct Mexican and other Spanish cultures, multiple white cultures, at least two somewhat different black cultures, and numerous Middle Eastern and Asian cultures. There is quite definitely a difference in cultures. Anyone who can't see that is blinded by Political Correctness bullshit. Whether or not any are superior can be argued. I say some are.

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Egyptians invented paper for heaven's sake,

And Egyptians made my list of greatest civilizations of all time. In fact, I remember having pointed them out by name when I said that there is not genetic difference in races that can be seen consistently through history. You might have missed it, because you wanted to demonize me as much as you can in your own mind to add validity to your opinion.

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you don't need to bullshit with "they improved on them". I'm sure the chinese's fireworks got improved special for July 4th.

Go to a globe or world map, locate China and then Japan. You will notice that they are not the same country. Also, I will admit that the Chinese are one of those great, non-white civilizations. They invented gun-powder, made structural marvels that the rest of the world couldn't even imagine at the time, and were the hot-s**t guys all of Europe wanted to trade with for a long time.

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/done discussing racist stupidity with you/

I'm not racist. I'm not saying black civilizations suck because of any genetic flaw built into them. They just haven't produced a leader that can advance them to higher levels yet, even though countless others have. If Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X had been born in Africa, they may have made something of it. Unfortunately, they didn't.

"most historians agree that the Chinese invented fireworks in the 9th century"
Guess you forgot about Nelson Mandela.
And my point about Egypt is that paper came from a black civilization. Europeans improved the invention. In response to saying that the "improvements" or further inventions of the Japanese are useless. Damn, forgot about the video game, they invented that. How does this prove anything? Oh wait it doesn't. Thanks for admitting your listing of the grievances of non-white culture(of many whose inventions and I know one is air-conditioning, was by black Americans).
It's ludicrous to say that only white cultures have fit rulers. Good rulers come and go. And ******** Malcom X, racist too.

[October Peahen]

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October Peahen

Discriminating others because of there intelligence is no different then racism or any other kind of prejudice.

So you'd be happy with an untrained moron performing brain-surgery on you? The difference between discriminating based on race and intelligence is that intelligence is a measurable quality proven to matter, whereas race hasn't.

Point taken.

[theMooses]

We actually have a section in the index of our AP Psychology books that average out IQ's of different races. The results were:

Asian Ave. IQ: 105
Caucasian Ave. IQ: 100
Black Ave. IQ: 85

And Mexicans were further down I believe. So how is this scientist's findings revolutionary?

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bluerain202

"most historians agree that the Chinese invented fireworks in the 9th century"

Hey, that's common knowledge. Way to go, you.

I feel like I already said something to that effect.

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Guess you forgot about Nelson Mandela.

And? So what? (Again, deja vu). I'm not saying black people can't be smart, I'm saying most aren't. Revolutionaries exist in all cultures.

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And my point about Egypt is that paper came from a black civilization. Europeans improved the invention.

Good for us? Again, Egypt made it into my list of civilizations that Rock Your Socks. I put them in there knowing it was a "black civilization" because it fit in with my Some-Black-Civilizations-Have-Been-Really-Cool-But-Unfortunately-There-Really-Aren't-Any-That-Are-Awesome-Today Theory.

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In response to saying that the "improvements" or further inventions of the Japanese are useless.

I didn't say they are useless, just that they aren't the "Leading Edge of Innovation" you seem to try and make them out to be.

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Damn, forgot about the video game, they invented that.

And millions of nerds everywhere, including myself, rejoiced. But wait, the earliest video games were actually invented in America! Oh well, add another item to the list of "Things that Japan revolutionized but did not invent."

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How does this prove anything? Oh wait it doesn't. Thanks for admitting your listing of the grievances of non-white culture(of many whose inventions and I know one is air-conditioning, was by black Americans).

Huh? What's all this non-white stuff coming from. Most of my arguments have been based on largely black-inferiority to most other races, not white-superiority over other races. Also, Air Conditioning was invented by a black man, who was a part of a white-influenced culture, rather than entirely black culture. The black culture that has been creative and on par with other cultures is not an entirely black culture, but pretty much no cultures are exclusive to themselves, anymore, so that is not the point. What is the point is that inventing Air Conditioning was a result of a single man possessing great intelligence, it does not mean that unrelated black cultures suddenly became smarter.

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It's ludicrous to say that only white cultures have fit rulers.

Which is why I didn't say it.

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Good rulers come and go. And ******** Malcom X, racist too.

Fine, go ahead and denounce the black leaders I use as examples to say that black people aren't genetically inferior. It hurts your argument more than mine.

[Cildru Dyathe]

Black Women In Our School Are Ranked Number One.
Then Whites.
Then Asians.
Then Hispanics.

[tyniko808]

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[bluerain202]

I said that the Chinese invented fireworks, and you said, "no look at a map, japan is not china!!blahablah". I was proving that you're bullshiting
Which you apparently are by making excuses AND generalizations about "black culture" but WAIT.. he wasn't talking about black culture! He was saying that the average black person is going to more stupid than a white person because of their race! Woahh I disproved that early on in the discussion, sorry you missed it.
Nelson was the president of SA not just an "intelligent man".
And Malcom was a terrorist, I don't care if he was black.

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bluerain202

I said that the Chinese invented fireworks, and you said, "no look at a map, japan is not china!!blahablah".

It's because the logical progression of an argument was violated, by you, that I had to make sure you understood that Asia is a continent, not a country. Upon your claim that the Japanese were the leading technological innovators, I pointed out that, in fact, they aren't. After that, you claimed that China made fireworks, America "improved" them, and somehow this validated your claim about Japan being the computer-guys for the last four decades. Unfortunately, that's not how it works.

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I was proving that you're bullshiting

"Fighting fire with fire"?

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Which you apparently are by making excuses AND generalizations about "black culture"

Generalizations are only bad if they aren't able to be proven true by observation alone.

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but WAIT.. he wasn't talking about black culture! He was saying that the average black person is going to more stupid than a white person because of their race!

And guess what, they are! Keep in mind the meaning of the term average: the average black person is not as smart as a non-black person. Whether this is white or not is unimportant, just that it is non-black. Obviously there can be some exceptions - a lot of Asia sucks.

I will say that I think his observation about black people world-wide is true, though his reasoning is probably off (not so much genetic as it is cultural, but culture has a lot to do with race). I will, and have, also say that there are black cultures which are above average among other black cultures and on par/greater than some non-black cultures.

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Woahh I disproved that early on in the discussion, sorry you missed it.

You didn't disprove anything, and you know it. Except for maybe that America's public schools are, in fact, not the worst form of education in the "civilized" world.

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Nelson was the president of SA not just an "intelligent man".

Lots of people have been in charge of African nations. If that was all it took to be great, Africa wouldn't be a shithole and we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, being smart is worth noting.

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And Malcom was a terrorist, I don't care if he was black.

I'm not going to bother debating Malcolm X. He is a controversial figurehead for a reason.

[devil son inlaw]

less intelligent? Black people are one the most smartest and powerful people alive.

[Seijuro the Fallen Dragon]

tehMooses

We actually have a section in the index of our AP Psychology books that average out IQ's of different races. The results were:

Asian Ave. IQ: 105
Caucasian Ave. IQ: 100
Black Ave. IQ: 85

And Mexicans were further down I believe. So how is this scientist's findings revolutionary?

Your AP Psychology book should also have a section discussing how means of measuring Intelligence Quotients are culturally biased and that results vary across different types of tests. Making this kind of judgment through an IQ figure alone means you are ignoring situational factors that keep African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans at the bottom of the socioeconomic and educational ladders. You are therefore committing the fundamental attribution error. Since you seem to think very highly of your high school level understanding (if that) of psychology, you should know what that is, too.

Signed,
An actual psychology major who thinks you're an idiot.

[bluerain202]

Excuses and bullshit. Next time when you post something, put some substance in your post.
I don't know why you'd assume that, since you were implying that Japan(through logical expression of argument or whatever bullshit you said) invented fireworks. Being that I didn't generalize neither Japan nor China as "Asia", why would you assume I meant the same country? And how is mentioning two Asian countries one after another illogical?

Stop attempting to downplay my education because I am making much more sense than you are.
"Generalizations are only bad if they aren't able to be proven true by observation alone." Not only is this sentence rather strangely verbose, it's bullshit that throws out the scientific theory. Or simply is bullshit that has nothing to do with it.

My observation from my school environment is contrary to the bigotry that you are describing. I doubt that racists really bother to "observe black people outside of the media's stereotypes LOL.
"the average black person is not as smart as a non-black person. Whether this is white or not is unimportant, just that it is non-black. Obviously there can be some exceptions - a lot of Asia sucks."
WOAH generalization with NO facts. Does this paragraph even make sense? <--- rhetorical question if you need to know.

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I will say that I think his observation about black people world-wide is true, though his reasoning is probably off (not so much genetic as it is cultural, but culture has a lot to do with race). I will, and have, also say that there are black cultures which are above average among other black cultures and on par/greater than some non-black cultures.

If it's not genetic then he's wrong because that's his argument. Now we can move on.

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You didn't disprove anything, and you know it. Except for maybe that America's public schools are, in fact, not the worst form of education in the "civilized" world.

LOLOLOL ah you don't get argument points for attempting to be witty with an insult. You do get an immaturity cookie though! Here you go.

Last time I checked, Nelson was a great leader who ended apartheid.
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