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I'm not going to read more than a few sentences of this thread; I'm just coming in to say that I cannot even begin to explain the wealth of knowledge I've gained since I stopped wasting my time on the god or no god argument. It's pretty obvious that there's no god, but I don't care if you disagree, because it's so completely irrelevant to anything at all. The existence of god changes precisely nothing, which is really no different from being nonexistent.

I look at it this way: What has modern religion contributed to society in the last 50 years? Nothing that I'm aware of. I can't even say fundamentalism, since it's nothing new.

Not coming to argue either but I think religion has contributed a lot within the last 50 years and still does today. You may not care whether there is a god or not but the majority of the world does. That proves how influential religion itself is.

Ghandi, MLK, and the Dalai Llama are just a few religious leaders who have made great impacts on society

Just because they were religious leaders does not mean religion is responsible for their contributions. Gregor Mendel was a monk, but that doesn't mean that religion is responsible for the cell theory of biology.

Well, religion probably has nothing to do with the cell theory of biology but when it comes to activism and big social changes accomplished by these people religion played a very important role. Many of these people would not have had as big as a following without incorporating their faith and the ideals of peace, and acceptance into their speeches to achieve their what they did.

I think it's just impossible that you would think MLK a preacher himself who constantly referred to god in many of his speeches and the whole civil rights movement which began in the church
for example had no religious influence whatsoever.

The influence of religion still influences everyday life whether we realize it or not.

Blacks have been pushing for more rights for well over a hundred years, the civil rights movement began long before MLK.

Their strategy of nonviolent protest may have been influenced by religion, but non-violent resistance has been around for thousands of years. It's just as likely that their strategy was influenced by the fact that nonviolent resistance produces better results.

Incorporating their faith brought them a bigger following simply because a huge number of people were religious. I guess you could say that that is a contribution of religion, but we have movements of WAY more people today because of the internet. We have real social networks now, rather than Yahweh's sneakernet.

Churches were used as safehouses for runaway slaves and for speakers of civil rights and rights of women during the 1700s and 1800s. Churches were constantly used as places for people to speak without being persecuted. Without this established 'safe zone' many orators on equality would have been killed or taken into custody