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I really am going to post this until the quotes won't let me anymore* until she realizes that she's conceded that claim... or simply ignored all evidence against her claim, proving she's delusional.

*Disclaimer: I will not continuously "spam" the forum so you cannot report me for that. My claim iys that ym posts have been missed due to other spam. Prove me wrong.

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tererun
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Another blatant lie.

Anti-Scientologists were the ones who protested outside hundreds of chruches 8 days ago.

Unless Ray was there, or has really voiced his opinnion that he is Anti-Scientologist, I don't think he is, and I have yet to see one claim from him or anyone else but you that he is.


He has voiced a negative opinion of scientology in this thread. Please keep up. I know you are an admitted /b/tard, but save the tactics for your home crowd.
You dim-wit. Being against something is not the same thing and disagreeing with it. I would have to want to have Scientology abolished to be an anti-Scientologist. Instead, I'm simply NOT a Scientologist.

It's very simple, and if you'd open a hole in your thick skull large enough to let just a minute of information through, maybe you'd begin to understand.

Matter and point one: You call people liars every time they disagree with you. ******** PROVE IT, LADY.
Second, I DO NOT advocate what Anonymous is doing because they are infringing upon the rights on Scientologists.

I can voice a negative opinion on custard and not think it should be abolished.
I can voice a negative opinion on the latest American idol but that doesn't mean I want the show canceled or those people dead.
You live in extremes, and it's very embarrassing.
 
     

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*eyebrow* This assbaggery is still going on? I left because tererun's trolling ceased to be entertaining. Why are you people still here?

She's a person who claims to be against Scientology and yet she gives a million reasons why Scientology shouldn't be persecuted. If she's such a massive SP she shouldn't care. She should want people to protest Scientology because that's what SP's do. Instead she's continually telling you all that Scientology is good, and you're biting like baitfish.

The point is, she's purposefully contradicting the popular side of the argument for her own amusement. She's playing Devil's Advocate. In fact she's playing nobody's advocate, she's attacking both sides. She thinks Scientology is stupid, she thinks protesting Scientology is stupid. Yet she claims to be somebody against Scientology.

She's a troll people. And I stopped feeding her.
     
The OP sounds like they have an IQ of room tempature. Many of the facts in the OP are not related to scientology.

Anonymous is not just computer hackers. There is no leader of anonymous, similar to an anarchist group. The main problem that anonymous has with the "church" of scientology is their rules about speaking out against the church by people within the church and outside of the church. Opposers of the church are allowed to be lied, tricked, and/or destroyed. There have been many scientology related deaths, and crimes committed by the church itself. The death of Lisa McPhearson is what anonymous is making most aware.

Part of the reason why people hide their faces during these protests is because one of the rules in scientology is being able to destroy, or sue people who speak up against the church so if your face isn't covered you might be losing a pretty penny (or your life).
 
     
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Scientology is a religion. Oddly it would be a lot harder to say that without all the crazy s**t that comes into it. However, it has a philosophy, a theory on where we came from, a sort of spritualism, it has goals and a purpose, and it really has aboue the same claim to reality as any other religion does. It is not just a money making scheme, there is a history and an idea behind it. Yes, it does look like a book LRH could not get published, but it stands up next to things like the bible.

Actually the bible seems fairly believable to me, and I'm more Buddhist than I am Christian (not agnostic, just indecisive <3).


Of course it does, you have been rammed full of the stories since the day you were born. It really doesn't matter if you personally can believe in it or not. If you live outside the US things might be different for you, but if you are inside the US the government does not judge whether the philosophy is believeable, just that it is there. Seriously, is the story of xenu that crazy next to your god turning into wine and crackers so that you can commit cannibalism and be sanctified?


v e j i k u n

Yet Scientology, if what I've read up on is to be true, seems a little *too* far-fetched for my tastes.


Yes, because the bible has so much in common with us. Let us see, people living for thousands of years, a global flood that would have required almost an entire planet of water that just vanished into thin air, god's kid is a zombie composed of wine and crackers. You are correct, the bible is sooooooooo much more believable.

At any rate, it is a good thing for any religion that believability is not a requirement.

v e j i k u n

I mean, it makes specific reference to Hydrogen Bombs, which, correct me if I'm wrong, are a human invention in recent years. And if said story is true, shouldn't the force used in the described event destroyed the earth? I know that just one hydrogen bomb today is enough to take out an entire continent, at least, and Scientology (again, I'm going on by whats published here, since Scientology as an organization is so mum on this) says that millions of these souls were destroyed with Hydrogen bombs.


I can move on to things like how a single man was able to ram 2 of every species alive on the planet onto a boat that could not possibly have fit them all. We could all wonder how a man without access to planes, or another boat for that matter, was able to get species from all of the continents of earth.

v e j i k u n

I'm not one to say someone else's beliefs are wrong...but something has to be a little off in your head to just accept that straight up.


Yet, you will sit here and say it. Is something off in your head not to see your blatant hypocricy?

At any rate, I have just as much faith in the bible as I do in the works of LRH.
     
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(You can't prove the Force doesn't exist, or that these things didn'thappen a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away - DON'T IMPEDE ON MY RELIGION, DOUBTERS!)


Do you think I am going to complain? I am a long time moonie and I go t a lot of conventions and dress up as anime characters. I used to do a loy of sci-fi cons and was a big trekkie for a while.

If you want to do all of that stuff I would fully defend your right to believe it and do it as long as it doesn't become a problem. Seriously, I would defend your jedi religion's right to exist just as much as I would scientology's right to exist. Yes, I would also shout insults at the people who poke fun at you, because they should wait until you are not able to hear them to laugh at you.

And what about my right to carry a lightsaber? xp


Go right ahead. Of course, light sabers in this universe are made of plastic and are not very dangerous. Hell man, get your furvert friend to dress up as a wookie and walk around with you for all I care.
Xiam

It would be hard to do the whole plane thing. On the one hand, they might consider it a toy and have me move along, to which I would demand that they treat it like a weapon and have me detained.


At which point in today's airports you would be immediately beaten down and taken into custody as you desired.
Xiam

On the other hand... I'd want them to accept it as a symbol of my religion, and necessary as an extension of myself.

(I should really customize my lightsaber, too...)


You should get right on that and stop wasting time with silly distractions.
 
     
 
Tererun: it's not this religion versus that religion that gets me (since I think they're all BS anyway - I liked the Buddha quote someone used), it's that LRH actually said that a good way to make money was to start a religion. And then started one. That people agreed to and donated money towards. I mean WTF.
     
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The thing about the Bible vs. Scientology's stuff is... excluding the theological crap, all the things about God, Angels, etc... the Bible is essentially a fairly accurate history of the Jewish people.

Excluding Genesis, of course.


You need to go educate yourself now. No, it isn't. Yes, they want you to think that but all that stuff is just about as true as the crazy s**t in it.

Xiam

As for Scientology, all it has is the science fiction bullshit from L. Ron Hubbard, in which Xenu is a badass not to be messed with, and psychologists are the ******** Devil.


There is a lot more to it than that. Really, that is not explained to every scientologist, unlike how every idiot is given a bible and thinks it is some sort of history textbook.

Xiam

The Xenu story basically equates to Genesis - a pointless origin story that has no use for the intelligent mind who knows it's a load of bunk.

Oh, also what Scientology has is a load of false history on L. Ron Hubbard himself, which directly contradicts the actual documented evidence and accounts on the man.


Could you at least try reading what you are talking about instead of parroting what you were told by someone else. OT3 is not the only part of scientology. Yes it is one of their more laughable ideas, but there is other stuff.
 
     
 
v e j i k u n
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We should really turn these protests into a fun field day, like dress up as other cults who are less successful and pretend to gripe about them. I call dibs on Swede-sacrificing bearskin-clad cannibals! I already have a sweet looking garter snake! .....so it's a little small, shuddup, he's still cute! gonk

I get your point, but the protests aren't for fun. They hide their faces for a reason.


So did the KKK, your point?
     
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*eyebrow* This assbaggery is still going on? I left because tererun's trolling ceased to be entertaining. Why are you people still here?


because they think they are fighting a holy war, and I am hungry? Oh, and I would have left also if I looked as stupid as you have here.

Mask_Thief of Hearts

She's a person who claims to be against Scientology and yet she gives a million reasons why Scientology shouldn't be persecuted. If she's such a massive SP she shouldn't care. She should want people to protest Scientology because that's what SP's do. Instead she's continually telling you all that Scientology is good, and you're biting like baitfish.


Post proof or concede. I have not told people scientology is good. You are a liar. You were proven so and rightfully embarassed and that is why you left.

Mask_Thief of Hearts

The point is, she's purposefully contradicting the popular side of the argument for her own amusement. She's playing Devil's Advocate. In fact she's playing nobody's advocate, she's attacking both sides. She thinks Scientology is stupid, she thinks protesting Scientology is stupid. Yet she claims to be somebody against Scientology.

She's a troll people. And I stopped feeding her.


You really have a problem with reading. Oh well, I should expect as much from a /b/tard.
 
     
 
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The OP sounds like they have an IQ of room tempature. Many of the facts in the OP are not related to scientology.

Anonymous is not just computer hackers. There is no leader of anonymous, similar to an anarchist group. The main problem that anonymous has with the "church" of scientology is their rules about speaking out against the church by people within the church and outside of the church. Opposers of the church are allowed to be lied, tricked, and/or destroyed. There have been many scientology related deaths, and crimes committed by the church itself. The death of Lisa McPhearson is what anonymous is making most aware.

Part of the reason why people hide their faces during these protests is because one of the rules in scientology is being able to destroy, or sue people who speak up against the church so if your face isn't covered you might be losing a pretty penny (or your life).



Again, for the idiots who think anon is in this for the rightous fight. Anon got into this because scientology got youtube to remove a video they owned the copywrite to. Before that happened Anon couldn't have cared less if David Miscaivage and xenu were raping their mom with the d***o lisa left at the org. Wake the ******** up and realize you are tools of a bunch of people who are right now laughing at what they caused.
     
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Tererun: it's not this religion versus that religion that gets me (since I think they're all BS anyway - I liked the Buddha quote someone used), it's that LRH actually said that a good way to make money was to start a religion. And then started one. That people agreed to and donated money towards. I mean WTF.


If he bothers you that much I have good news for you. He is dead and has been for years. Now you can go back to your life and not worry about them anymore.
 
     
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tererun
Post proof or concede. I have not told people scientology is good. You are a liar. You were proven so and rightfully embarassed and that is why you left.

Well you've done nothing but defend it the entire debate. Therefore by your own twisted logic you are a liar. You also love Scientology, you hate all Jews, Christians, and free protesters because you think they're cowards.

It's easy to do what you do you poor sad little thing, you should try reading what you write a bit more carefully before ramming your head up your a**.

And by the way, if we consider the opinions of the other people on the board as measures of who is winning and losing the debate, you were creamed after my second post. You're the one that should be embarrassed and leave my dear, I'm perfectly fine. The fact that your idiocy doesn't make for interesting debate is the only reason I left.

Everybody who you argued with proved you were an ignorant, idiotic, lackwit. But if you want to delude yourself into thinking I'm the one that came off looking stupid rather than yourself. Go for it, I'm sure your clearly insane delusional and obsessive behavior won't stand in the way of your success... oh wait. It will, sorry. Enjoy duping everybody else. I'm done being baited by you.
     
tererun

Of course it does, you have been rammed full of the stories since the day you were born. It really doesn't matter if you personally can believe in it or not. If you live outside the US things might be different for you, but if you are inside the US the government does not judge whether the philosophy is believeable, just that it is there. Seriously, is the story of xenu that crazy next to your god turning into wine and crackers so that you can commit cannibalism and be sanctified?

Yes, because the bible has so much in common with us. Let us see, people living for thousands of years, a global flood that would have required almost an entire planet of water that just vanished into thin air, god's kid is a zombie composed of wine and crackers. You are correct, the bible is sooooooooo much more believable.

At any rate, it is a good thing for any religion that believability is not a requirement.

I can move on to things like how a single man was able to ram 2 of every species alive on the planet onto a boat that could not possibly have fit them all. We could all wonder how a man without access to planes, or another boat for that matter, was able to get species from all of the continents of earth.

Yet, you will sit here and say it. Is something off in your head not to see your blatant hypocricy?

At any rate, I have just as much faith in the bible as I do in the works of LRH.


First things first, I was not raised a christian, and I was not fed stories from the day I was born. All my experience with religion comes from research I did on my own. So yes, I suppose that makes me bias myself towards the bible rolleyes

The one key difference between the bible and the works of LRH is that the bible is not meant to be taken in the literal sense (although many religions have done so). Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen and heard about scientology, they believe the stuff with Xenu *actually* happened. Thats a far-cry from a story with morals, designed to teach.

Yes, there are stories in the bible that come across just as impossible as the Xenu theory. However, the fact remains that its just that, a story. Any intelligent religious individual would be able to tell you that. They're there to teach, not to be taken at face value. So, following that idea, where is the morals in a space god blowing up millions of souls with Hydrogen Bombs?

I'm not hypocritial. I never said that the belief is wrong. I never even *implied* it. I simply stated my *opinion* (key word there) that, compared to other religions, you have to be a little crazy to accept that story at face value.
I dare you to find where I said that their belief system is wrong. My disagreeing with it doesn't necessarily mean I think its wrong, I'm not that narrow minded.

And with that, I'm done. Have fun trolling other people.
 
     
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Destroy those Anonymous Terrorists. They deserve such death for their treasonous actions~!


Don't think I am doing this for you ronbot. I am doing this because it follows my own beliefs. Frankly, you should pull your head out of your a** and listen to what some of these people are saying.

Look, these people are taking their information from untrustworthy sources that you yourself pointed out were untrustworthy in compliance to the point I was making over and over again.

These people are liars who are trying to smear the Church's good name.
     
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Tererun! You're my hero! <3

Destroy those Anonymous Terrorists. They deserve such death for their treasonous actions~!


Don't think I am doing this for you ronbot. I am doing this because it follows my own beliefs. Frankly, you should pull your head out of your a** and listen to what some of these people are saying.

Look, these people are taking their information from untrustworthy sources that you yourself pointed out were untrustworthy in compliance to the point I was making over and over again.

These people are liars who are trying to smear the Church's good name.


They had a good name?
 
     
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