Comrade Texada Wolf
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Sashi-senpai
After reading many of your comments, it is blatantly obvious to me that you have not done your research on Scientology. Especially on this one. I'll have to assume you are not familiar with the "Fair Game" policy.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/disk/fairgame.htm
READ IT. LEARN.
Try the entire thread next time kiddo. You might realize, I have done a little more than run around like a boob on halloween outside some scientology orgs. Next time, white pointy hood. It indicates your desires so much better.
Sashi-senpai
Don't think it is practiced? I can verify it is. I attended a local chapter of the worldwide protest on the 10th of February. We were followed, even at the original meeting place, over a mile from the "Church" of Scientology. People in hoodies were circling the building, talking on radios. Someone pulled up behind my friend's car (we carpooled) and wrote down her license plate number. We saw them. When we walked to the "Church", we were followed. At the protest, Scientologists tried taking pictures of our faces. Several of us have been harassed. My friend has been repeatedly followed by a scientologist PI since then, and saw him sluething outside her house.
Oh really. So, let us see, a bunch of people went harassing the orgs in masks and then they are surprised when the orginization they ckaim fights dirty follows them around until they have the courage to show their faces in order to find out who they are. I feel bad for you, you know. It is hard to be a religious bigot today. It is rough with them having the freedom to, you know, go out in public and follow the people who are harassing them. Maybe you are right and the world would be a much better place if you were allowed to terrorize them and they couldn't do anything back.
However, if you ******** with the bear, you will get the claws. Scientology has no problem protecting it's survival, and I never claimed other wise. You bored emo /b/tards had better not come whining when it is their turn to hit you. It is called a war for a reason a*****e, and if you can't deal then you shouldn't have been running around like a jerkoff harassing people.
Oh, and what has this harassment consisted of outside of the day you protested.
Sashi-senpai
Other people who attending protests have even lost their jobs because someone calls their place of work and tells lies to their boss about them, or in one case, emailed them a link to a myspace page where he said something his boss did was "bullshit" over a year prior.
Really, so employers don't like when they find out they hire people who go out and harass large groups of people on their time off. Somehow I don't blame them for that. I am not saying it is easy to be a part of a hate orginization. So man up there buddy, it is only going to get worse. You see, a lot of people don't need your holy war bullshit, especially employers.
Sashi-senpai
People like Mark Bunker who have protested Scientology for years face CONSTANT HARASSMENT. However, the worst one would be the harassment - and attempted murder - of Paulette Cooper. Oh, and they tried to have her put in prison, and almost succeeded in framing her.
http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper/index.htm
I'm going to the protest again on the 15th of March, and I WILL take precautions to keep my identity secret.
Educate yourself.
OK, you ******** are not allowed to mention paulette, snow white, and lisa anymore. Seriously man, you are talking about a couple of individuals on a planet full of 6 billion people. Pit bulls kill more people every year than scientologists do.
tererun
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Symos
I have a feeling most of the people on this thread are now Fair Game.
I have a feeling no one in the COS even gives a ******** about this thread. OK, well maybe the OP.
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Texinadawolf
They did (the Naiz) invented the atomic bomb they did some sort of test smaller than the US
the one of the two bombs drop on Japan might of been German
Proof please. Then we can talk.
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Galad Damodred
Lexenos
Yeah, only the Jews didn't do anything wrong. If half of what I've heard about what the scientologists have done is true, they deserve to be taken down.
Lex
Lex
stare Obviously, you've never read the Old Testament... or did you mean that they didn't do anything wrong against the Nazis?
Do we really need to talk about how the romans killed jesus for causing instablitiy again?
Jesus was a jew. Get over it. They are god's people too and should be respected as such, as you would know if you read your own book.
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tererun
Sashi-senpai
After reading many of your comments, it is blatantly obvious to me that you have not done your research on Scientology. Especially on this one. I'll have to assume you are not familiar with the "Fair Game" policy.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/disk/fairgame.htm
READ IT. LEARN.
Try the entire thread next time kiddo. You might realize, I have done a little more than run around like a boob on halloween outside some scientology orgs. Next time, white pointy hood. It indicates your desires so much better.
Sashi-senpai
Don't think it is practiced? I can verify it is. I attended a local chapter of the worldwide protest on the 10th of February. We were followed, even at the original meeting place, over a mile from the "Church" of Scientology. People in hoodies were circling the building, talking on radios. Someone pulled up behind my friend's car (we carpooled) and wrote down her license plate number. We saw them. When we walked to the "Church", we were followed. At the protest, Scientologists tried taking pictures of our faces. Several of us have been harassed. My friend has been repeatedly followed by a scientologist PI since then, and saw him sluething outside her house.
Oh really. So, let us see, a bunch of people went harassing the orgs in masks and then they are surprised when the orginization they ckaim fights dirty follows them around until they have the courage to show their faces in order to find out who they are. I feel bad for you, you know. It is hard to be a religious bigot today. It is rough with them having the freedom to, you know, go out in public and follow the people who are harassing them. Maybe you are right and the world would be a much better place if you were allowed to terrorize them and they couldn't do anything back.
However, if you f**k with the bear, you will get the claws. Scientology has no problem protecting it's survival, and I never claimed other wise. You bored emo /b/tards had better not come whining when it is their turn to hit you. It is called a war for a reason a*****e, and if you can't deal then you shouldn't have been running around like a jerkoff harassing people.
Oh, and what has this harassment consisted of outside of the day you protested.
Sashi-senpai
Other people who attending protests have even lost their jobs because someone calls their place of work and tells lies to their boss about them, or in one case, emailed them a link to a myspace page where he said something his boss did was "bullshit" over a year prior.
Really, so employers don't like when they find out they hire people who go out and harass large groups of people on their time off. Somehow I don't blame them for that. I am not saying it is easy to be a part of a hate orginization. So man up there buddy, it is only going to get worse. You see, a lot of people don't need your holy war bullshit, especially employers.
Sashi-senpai
People like Mark Bunker who have protested Scientology for years face CONSTANT HARASSMENT. However, the worst one would be the harassment - and attempted murder - of Paulette Cooper. Oh, and they tried to have her put in prison, and almost succeeded in framing her.
http://www.lermanet.com/paulette-cooper/index.htm
I'm going to the protest again on the 15th of March, and I WILL take precautions to keep my identity secret.
Educate yourself.
OK, you ******** are not allowed to mention paulette, snow white, and lisa anymore. Seriously man, you are talking about a couple of individuals on a planet full of 6 billion people. Pit bulls kill more people every year than scientologists do.
Harass? Try peacefully protesting, as is a promised right in the first amendment.
Also, Scientologists killing anyone is not acceptable. You are seriously fagtarded. I understand completely why people wore masks, sunglasses, hats, etc - to keep their identity secret and to keep from their pic being taken and sent to Clearwater for some lovely facial recognition.
By the way, there was no harassment from protesters. THREE CoS staffers/CoS handlers were arrested for assault, and NO PROTESTERS were arrested. Oh, and comparing our protests to the KKK? Big difference, dumbass, we aren't protesting the religion, but instead the immoral and destructive actions of the church against its members and those who appose it. Comparing those protesting the horrid practices of a "Church" that is actually a business (It doesn't even qualify for tax-exempt status, yet a lot of blackmail and phonetapping goes a long way) to a group of people whose sole purpose is to hate people for the color of their skin is absolutely ridiculous. Logical fallacy much?
Honestly, I could defeat every point you have until the end of time. But you'd still go on, trolling with your logical fallacies, and you would never listen to truth.
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Wolf Perrin
tererun
blah blah blah I'm an SP blah blah blah You guys are nazis blah blah blah
Harass? Try peacefully protesting, as is promised in the first amendment.
Also, Scientologists killing anyone is not acceptable. You are seriously fagtarded. I understand completely why people wore masks, sunglasses, hats, etc - to keep their identity secret and to keep from their pic being taken and sent to Clearwater for some lovely facial recognition.
By the way, there was no harassment from protesters. THREE CoS staffers/CoS handlers were arrested for assault, and NO PROTESTERS were arrested. Oh, and comparing our protests to the KKK? Big difference, dumbass, we aren't protesting the religion, but instead the immoral and destructive actions of the church against its members and those who appose it. Comparing those protesting the horrid practices of a "Church" that is actually a business (It doesn't even qualify for tax-exempt status, yet a lot of blackmail and phonetapping goes a long way) to a group of people whose sole purpose is to hate people for the color of their skin is absolutely ridiculous. Logical fallacy much?
Honestly, I could defeat every point you have until the end of time. But you'd still go on, trolling with your logical fallacies, and you would never listen to truth.
Pay no mind to tererun, she claims to be an SP but the way she assaults anyone and everyone who criticizes Scientology sounds suspiciously like a Co$ supporter. Something tells me she/him/it/ot is just pulling some kind of charade.
Ignore her, eventually she'll go away.
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Tererun! You're my hero! <3
Destroy those Anonymous Terrorists. They deserve such death for their treasonous actions~!
Destroy those Anonymous Terrorists. They deserve such death for their treasonous actions~!
maine coon kitty
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Totally KSW
With Motion
You are a scientologist, therefore, everything you say is full of s**t.
No, you're full of s**t.
Hear me out, please. Don't listen to anonymous. They have only misinformed you with lies formulated on the internet.
I've never heard of anonymous and I still think your nuckin futs. domokun
Bragi Wilhelm
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This is hilariously funny! Keep it up, guys.
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Totally KSW
With Motion
You are a scientologist, therefore, everything you say is full of s**t.
No, you're full of s**t.
Hear me out, please. Don't listen to anonymous. They have only misinformed you with lies formulated on the internet.
Scientology is a..Please point out these supposed lies and explain to me how they are false. From what I've seen thus far it's been the Co$ that has been spoon feeding lies to people, not Anonymous.
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Awesome, tererun's here. whee
While pit bulls may have killed more people than Scientology, pit bulls are not human and are provoked.
Oh, one thing they have in common, though: many of the violent ones are only so because they've been brainwashed. They probably started out as peaceful beings, but they were ******** into going off the deep end.
While pit bulls may have killed more people than Scientology, pit bulls are not human and are provoked.
Oh, one thing they have in common, though: many of the violent ones are only so because they've been brainwashed. They probably started out as peaceful beings, but they were ******** into going off the deep end.
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bwahaha.. "terrorists". Quick, someone call Bush.
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Snow set Afire
Dr Raymond Stantz
tererun
I guess making up s**t will win the argument. Considering every scientologist repeatedly holds the e-meter and none are ever shocked by it I have to wonder just what sort of lackwit you are to believe such a bit of information.
Nothing like the PKE Meter of the Giga Meter, right? lol

No, no. That technology is all very real.
Peter, we've got a nasty one on our hands.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/
A fun little page on the e-meter, complete with LRH's patents on the device and interesting facts. You can find out how it works and even build your own.
The emotions would be best measured chemically through a biopsy and directly retrieving polypeptides from brain tissue. But you want the really easy way to tell how someone is feeling? Look at them.
Here's an idea.
An E-meter is an electronic circuit that measures electrical resistance relative to a standard resistance. Scientologists uses these funky devices weed out what they consider to be deeply ingrained emotional suffering that was cause by the trauma experienced by the alien soul which resides within every human being Scientologists call these negative bits of information "Engrams," which are located within the "Reactive mind", a part of a scientologist's brain which has been designed with the sole purpose of storing and using negative "programs" to harm the individual in which this "Reactive mind" lives.
Scientologists sincerely believe that once they have abolished the "Engrams" within their minds that they will develop God-like abilities. Things as ridiculous as releasing telepathy and psychokinetic energy as the "fully free mind."
The E-meter's function is described as such:
It is essential that a Scientologist interacts with the E-meter in the "right way" when using it.
The Scientologist which is being tested holds onto two electrodes, one in each hand, and is asked a series of questions by an "Auditor" which are designed to trigger emotional responses. This "Auditor" monitors the reactions of the meter and records the results. They will continue to question the Scientologist patient until they see a response within the meter's interface that they consider satisfactory.
The E-meter's patent schematics somewhat imply that the E-meter measures the change in resistance caused by one's grip on the electrodes. Tests have suggested however that the readings on the E-meter are irrelevant to hand pressure... Also to temperature and to humidity.
There is one test that someone else had described as follows:
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The person who was showing me the E-meter administered the standard Scientology "Pinch test". The "Pinch test" consists of pinching the E-meter holder and watching the meter react. Then about 30 seconds later the pincher tells the "pinchee" to remember the pinch and both watch the meter react. This can be repeated several times.
What I noticed was that the needle remained as erratic as before the "Pinch test" and that we would watch the meter until a needle movement of appropriate size was registered before I was asked again to "remember the pinch".
The response was far from instantaneous and personally indistinguishable from the meter response before the "test".
What I noticed was that the needle remained as erratic as before the "Pinch test" and that we would watch the meter until a needle movement of appropriate size was registered before I was asked again to "remember the pinch".
The response was far from instantaneous and personally indistinguishable from the meter response before the "test".
The observer had noticed that the meter's needle had bobbed back in fourth and intervals, and that it's pattern had not changed at all during his entire sitting. Scientologists will probably simply say he is an "incompetent" Scientologist, but the nature of the machine's design implies that it would behave in such a manner.
Also, the human body does not conduct electricity as wires do. So the measurement of electrical resistance is inconclusive. The conductivity of the humidity of our bodies would not change instantaneously. Resistance of electricity in the human body is a matter of density of the fluid and the tissue. A person could clench up nervously and change the effect of the reading on the meter (that is, if it's actually reading anything).
It is ridiculous that the machine claims to accurately measure resistance within the human body, because resistance through the entire human body is a very complex thing. The body, if drawn like a circuit, would look like a bunch of resistors in series and in parallel. It's a mess, and I don't see why anyone thinks measuring the resistance of organic matter is anything like measuring the resistance of wires and capacitors and other metallic substances-- and before you start, the iron in our blood is not conductive enough to substitute as a wire.
There is also another problem with the E-meter. If you control the E-meter, then the E-meter cannot tell you something you don't already know. For instance, Hubbard claims that the E-meter will not function properly if the Auditor is not properly trained and if the Scientologist patient has not been well prepared with Dianetics. Hubbard states very clearly that if you cannot produce proper E-meter responses that you must go back and work with an Auditor until you have trained yourself to have the ability to trigger the proper responses from the machine. And yet I hear many Scientologists telling that such matters do not matter, and that the E-meter should react to their emotions regardless. Do they even understand Hubbard's initial ideas, I wonder?
