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Totally KSW
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.

And you wonder why terrorists are usually from that area.


I fail to see what psychiatry has to do with terrorism. You're either completely brainwashed, or a troll.

1. Get out of Scientology while you can.

or

2.You were funny at first, but now you're just lame.
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Methcalarjalope
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You believe in alien warlords that forced alien ghosts to watch evil movies on big screens in theaters.
gonk Come again? Huh???? I missed this one. What is up with THAT! Oh my goodness! That is hilarious. What do they teach again? rofl



It's not their cosmology that is the problem, it's what those in charge do. When you get down to it, virgins having babies that grow up to be magic zombies (Christianity), and elephant head transplants (Hinduism) sound just as silly as body thetans. But the neither Christianity nor Hinduism is a giant pyramid scheme built on taking advantage of people and their money and utterly destroying anyone who strays from the path. If you are a Roman Catholic who decides to be Lutheran, you won't be hunted down by the Pope and have ever single shred of your life, from your family to your job to your health, taken from you. If you are a Scientologist who has qualms about Scientology, or even a non-scientologist, you will be destroyed (Like Quentin Hubbard or Paulette Cooper)

I fully agree that their cosmology is not the problem. Their beliefs aren't any more absurd than Christianity, Judaism or Buddhism.

The problem is, they make you PAY for the enlightenment of the story of Xenu.

Whereas a Christian will tell you up front what you're getting into.
Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.

Exactly. As with the majority of the internet.
Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.


Source of the Source:

http://www.islam-usa.com/im4.html
It's under "Psychotherapy", in the article by Syed.

"It is not surprising to know that at Fez, Morocco, an asylum for the mentally ill had been built early in the 8th century, and insane, asylums were built by the Arabs also in Baghdad in 705 A.D., in Cairo in 800 A.D., and in Damascus and Aleppo in 1270 A.D. In addition to baths, drugs, kind and benevolent treatment given to the mentally ill, musico-therapy and occupational therapy were also employed. These therapies were highly developed. Special choirs and live music bands were brought daily to entertain the patients by providing singing and musical performances and comic performers as well."

EDIT: wiki had claims that Egypt had the first mental hospitals, but no citation to follow. I can't find any earlier dates and countries than 8th Centry, in the Middle East.
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Methcalarjalope
Totally KSW
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.

And you wonder why terrorists are usually from that area.


You are using a logical fallacy. Can anyone else here name that fallacy for 500 gold? First one to name it wins.
Wouldn't it be confusing cause and effect?
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Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.


Source of the Source:

http://www.islam-usa.com/im4.html
It's under "Psychotherapy", in the article by Syed.

"It is not surprising to know that at Fez, Morocco, an asylum for the mentally ill had been built early in the 8th century, and insane, asylums were built by the Arabs also in Baghdad in 705 A.D., in Cairo in 800 A.D., and in Damascus and Aleppo in 1270 A.D. In addition to baths, drugs, kind and benevolent treatment given to the mentally ill, musico-therapy and occupational therapy were also employed. These therapies were highly developed. Special choirs and live music bands were brought daily to entertain the patients by providing singing and musical performances and comic performers as well."
This is palliative therapy not psychotherapy. I am sorry but the German school was quite different from this wasn't it?
Totally KSW
Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.

Exactly. As with the majority of $cientology


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Totally KSW
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.

And you wonder why terrorists are usually from that area.


I fail to see what psychiatry has to do with terrorism. You're either completely brainwashed, or a troll.

1. Get out of Scientology while you can.

or

2.You were funny at first, but now you're just lame.

Look, I'm quite happy with my religion, unlike criminal minds.
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Totally KSW
Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.

Exactly. As with the majority of the internet.
Your logic does not work here. Anyone anywhere can say anything. In person, books, T.V., internet, radio, and any other form of communication you can think of. Therefore if we were to follow your logic no evidence could ever be provided for any claim. Obviously this would ruin debates as a whole, so instead we follow this simple rule. If you wish to call a source false you must provide evidence for why it is false.
Ilovelocust
Methcalarjalope
Totally KSW
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.

And you wonder why terrorists are usually from that area.


You are using a logical fallacy. Can anyone else here name that fallacy for 500 gold? First one to name it wins.
Wouldn't it be confusing cause and effect?


Yes, perhaps that is also true, but there is a logical fallacy that has a specific name which KSW was employing. Can you name it for 1,000 gold? dramallama Come on!!!
Totally KSW
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Totally KSW
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.

And you wonder why terrorists are usually from that area.


I fail to see what psychiatry has to do with terrorism. You're either completely brainwashed, or a troll.

1. Get out of Scientology while you can.

or

2.You were funny at first, but now you're just lame.

Look, I'm quite happy with my religion, unlike criminal minds.


But criminal minds run your organization. At least go the the Freezone.
Ilovelocust
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Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.

Exactly. As with the majority of the internet.
Your logic does not work here. Anyone anywhere can say anything. In person, books, T.V., internet, radio, and any other form of communication you can think of. Therefore if we were to follow your logic no evidence could ever be provided for any claim. Obviously this would ruin debates as a whole, so instead we follow this simple rule. If you wish to call a source false you must provide evidence for why it is false.


No, no logic works everywhere, illogic fails. The entire internet cannot contain zero accurate sources. She is using another logical fallacy. Can anyone name it for 200 gold?
Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
Quote:
The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.


Source of the Source:

http://www.islam-usa.com/im4.html
It's under "Psychotherapy", in the article by Syed.

"It is not surprising to know that at Fez, Morocco, an asylum for the mentally ill had been built early in the 8th century, and insane, asylums were built by the Arabs also in Baghdad in 705 A.D., in Cairo in 800 A.D., and in Damascus and Aleppo in 1270 A.D. In addition to baths, drugs, kind and benevolent treatment given to the mentally ill, musico-therapy and occupational therapy were also employed. These therapies were highly developed. Special choirs and live music bands were brought daily to entertain the patients by providing singing and musical performances and comic performers as well."
This is palliative therapy not psychotherapy. I am sorry but the German school was quite different from this wasn't it?


The original claim was that the Germans "invented psychiatry". You might be correct on they type of therapy, but it would still be wrong to say that the Germans invented treating mental illness.
Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
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The Germans did not invent psychiatry. The first psychiatric hospitals were created in the 8th century CE, in the Arabic world.


I am Arab however I did not hear of this one. Can you source it us please? Thanks you.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry#Ancient_times


Wiki is not a source.
I'm curious as to why you say this.
Methcalarjalope
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Methcalarjalope
Mask Thief of Hearts
You believe in alien warlords that forced alien ghosts to watch evil movies on big screens in theaters.
gonk Come again? Huh???? I missed this one. What is up with THAT! Oh my goodness! That is hilarious. What do they teach again? rofl



It's not their cosmology that is the problem, it's what those in charge do. When you get down to it, virgins having babies that grow up to be magic zombies (Christianity), and elephant head transplants (Hinduism) sound just as silly as body thetans. But the neither Christianity nor Hinduism is a giant pyramid scheme built on taking advantage of people and their money and utterly destroying anyone who strays from the path. If you are a Roman Catholic who decides to be Lutheran, you won't be hunted down by the Pope and have ever single shred of your life, from your family to your job to your health, taken from you. If you are a Scientologist who has qualms about Scientology, or even a non-scientologist, you will be destroyed (Like Quentin Hubbard or Paulette Cooper)


Please answer me with logic and courtesy with out greating more logical fallacies than the scientologists. You are creating a strawman by describing Christianity thus. Shame on you. I am here to learn not to attack anyone's religious beliefs. I am merely surprised becuase I had not heard this before. I am asking for more information regarding this.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/ot/peter_forde.html

There you go.

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