Ancient Giants Had Atomic Bombs? WTH?

[Athavulf]

pseudo-sadistic

There really is too much evidence there to disagree with that. It seems odd that nobody has never analysed these rumours of past civilisations, and its amazing to see that they could control technologies far beyond our current reach. If this truely is a cycle then i guess we shall find out what happened to each civilisation when we get to it.

The info I have there barely scratches the surface of this topic. The Hopi prophecy is an excellent account of the events. Their prophecy also coincides with those of most tribal cultures around the world. One man, a "Psychonaut" named Terrence Mckenna, coined the term "Archaic Revival", in which case he claims we are part of now, at an accelerating pace. Basically, the arcane secrets of old are beginning to surface with the help of astro- and subatomic physics' new discoveries. There's also the pineal gland and dimethyltryptamine that are of indisputable significance to most ancient religious accounts. I've been watching it unfold for the past few years. It should be fun, the future, no matter what it brings.

[Athavulf]

hikari mangetsu

Or you could just point some of the people in the direction of Erich von Däniken's books?!
Maybe they would help them a little.
BTW interesting view to the matter. Thanks for giving me ideas for light reading material tonight.

You are quite welcome, and I shall do the same. I wasn't aware of Erich von Däniken before now. Thanks. wink

[hikari mangetsu]

Athavulf

hikari mangetsu

Or you could just point some of the people in the direction of Erich von Däniken's books?!
Maybe they would help them a little.
BTW interesting view to the matter. Thanks for giving me ideas for light reading material tonight.

You are quite welcome, and I shall do the same. I wasn't aware of Erich von Däniken before now. Thanks. wink

Well, von Däniken is more in the alien influence on the human growth and culture, but he tries to put light on some of the topic you have touched in this discussion. Maybe he is on to something. Who knows?! Human mind is not constructed to believe in something that we have either not seen or it has not been ingrained into us by dogmatic beliefs.

[Athavulf]

hikari mangetsu

Athavulf

hikari mangetsu

Or you could just point some of the people in the direction of Erich von Däniken's books?!
Maybe they would help them a little.
BTW interesting view to the matter. Thanks for giving me ideas for light reading material tonight.

You are quite welcome, and I shall do the same. I wasn't aware of Erich von Däniken before now. Thanks. wink

Well, von Däniken is more in the alien influence on the human growth and culture, but he tries to put light on some of the topic you have touched in this discussion. Maybe he is on to something. Who knows?! Human mind is not constructed to believe in something that we have either not seen or it has not been ingrained into us by dogmatic beliefs.

Yeah, I still don't know what to think about Z. Stitchin and David Icke... Icke does have amazingly sound points, but it's just that lizard people running the world thing I can't get my head around. I totally believe that we have s**theads running the world, and I think they are cold-blooded, but I just can't say they are reptilians.

Stitchin just seems a bit too immersed in his work? His work is some of the most comprehensive work on Ancient Sumer tho..

About the human mind... It does have it's limitations, but only we place them there. Think about how the world totally takes pretend stuff seriously. The persistence of borders, money no longer backed by gold, authority, rank, and the voting $$$ystem, any number of ridiculous/absurd laws, the pictures of fast food when you order versus the actual food-thing, etc... People love to play pretend. That's all politics has boiled down to these days, IMHO.

[Master Orenis]

This whole concept is creepy beyond belief. It also seems just a little bit out there.
Still, atomic bombs used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Makes a bit of sense, actually.

[Athavulf]

Katsuno_Hitomi

This whole concept is creepy beyond belief. It also seems just a little bit out there.
Still, atomic bombs used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Makes a bit of sense, actually.

Creepy, yes. Out there, definitely. Strangest thing about this redundant civilization cycle theory is that it holds a lot of water.. many facts link up to give credit to this idea, and it can be seen how rapidly information about this stuff gets taken off of Google.. I mean, imagine we had up-to-date global free access to archaeological information. We would already be on our way to recovering our origins.

[Lieutenant_Charon]

God damn I hate it when people rape history.

[pseudo-sadistic]

Nothing is guaranteed
You are a part of the great divide
The chosen or the frozen

hikari mangetsu

Or you could just point some of the people in the direction of Erich von Däniken's books?!
Maybe they would help them a little.
BTW interesting view to the matter. Thanks for giving me ideas for light reading material tonight.

Thanks for pointing me in this direction. Ive been looking over his work on the internet and it seems like a very interesting theory. Of course at this point in time ive only been skimming, im going to look at it in more detail tomorrow, i dont really have the time right now, but thank you

paradise is lost but the hungry have never bothered with the cost
Day by day they fall away like rose petals like ink that won't dry or fade
It just runs wild down cracks and crevices, grooves and folds

[hikari mangetsu]

I, myself, am currently just skimming over it. My interest lies in more occult matters. But legends and history are also a basis point of many beliefs.
As for the mention of Stitchin and the Anunnaki, and Nibiru (which was not yet mentioned in this debate - but just to put it in as Stitchin puts it in direct connection with the Anunnaki), I was chatting on the phone and checking what movies will be coming in the cinemas and spotted the title 2012. It is about the mayan prophecy about the 21.12.2012. I just hope someone miscalculated, again! xp

[Mobilize For War]

Stygian Soleil

I'm calling bullshit on this whole concept.

[hikari mangetsu]

Lieutenant_Charon

God damn I hate it when people rape history.

Oh, and BTW it is not raping history. Some of the theories are under the loupe of some acclaimed scientists. Even one hundred years ago some facts about history, we know now, were just someone's theory, someone's idea that went against everybody else's. History does not have just one side of the medal, not only one true point of view. Never forget, history is written by the winners, those that stayed last. No one asks for the other point of view. And some dozen of centuries after their side, their view of the event, could be also called raping the history. Free minds are those that come to new fresh conclusions and open a new look on ancient times.
And you know the old one, *where there's smoke, there's fire*. And those theories are based on old myths and legends, thus the smoke. Our duty is to find the true fire.

[Lieutenant_Charon]

hikari mangetsu

Lieutenant_Charon

God damn I hate it when people rape history.

Oh, and BTW it is not raping history. Some of the theories are under the loupe of some acclaimed scientists. Even one hundred years ago some facts about history, we know now, were just someone's theory, someone's idea that went against everybody else's. History does not have just one side of the medal, not only one true point of view. Never forget, history is written by the winners, those that stayed last. No one asks for the other point of view. And some dozen of centuries after their side, their view of the event, could be also called raping the history. Free minds are those that come to new fresh conclusions and open a new look on ancient times.
And you know the old one, *where there's smoke, there's fire*. And those theories are based on old myths and legends, thus the smoke. Our duty is to find the true fire.

Except all these theories are based on the idea that we don't know much about either the formation of society or the movement and development of peoples.

In both cases, we know a tremendous amount. Simply put, the process with which civilizations developed and advanced are not a mystery. The details, obviously, are, we can only know so much from archeological and written records, but what we do have is pretty clear.

The idea that there were hyper-advanced societies 10,000 or more years ago is simply ridiculous. A handful of "acclaimed scientists" with poor evidence and less documentation are nothing compared to mountains of data, analysis, and evidence done by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and professors and scientists over the years.

After all, there's "acclaimed scientists" who deny global warming and even some who support intelligent design. You just have to find a crackpot, after all.

It's also worth noting that history is not a science.

[Athavulf]

hikari mangetsu

Lieutenant_Charon

God damn I hate it when people rape history.

Oh, and BTW it is not raping history. Some of the theories are under the loupe of some acclaimed scientists. Even one hundred years ago some facts about history, we know now, were just someone's theory, someone's idea that went against everybody else's. History does not have just one side of the medal, not only one true point of view. Never forget, history is written by the winners, those that stayed last. No one asks for the other point of view. And some dozen of centuries after their side, their view of the event, could be also called raping the history. Free minds are those that come to new fresh conclusions and open a new look on ancient times.
And you know the old one, *where there's smoke, there's fire*. And those theories are based on old myths and legends, thus the smoke. Our duty is to find the true fire.

Such concise and elegant eloquence!

I also want to add that it is obvious that we are just screwing around on the planet Earth, playing this game we call "World", trading our luxury collectibles while others have to die and kill for that game to work. We have a term for this carefully and redundantly embedded in our news: "collateral damage". This concept of "Oh well, at least it isn't me getting fubar'd" is a very immature perspective on the human species and all other life known or not to inhabit this planet. This isn't any one of our faults, but we should really stop wrestling in the dirt and take our focus away from absurdly powerful annihilator devices and focus more on happy things like "a future for our children to play in" or "expanding our limited scientific scope of awareness a lot", for instance. The whole education institution needs a serious overhaul soon. The past 400 years we have been building our comforted demise. It's time for the greater human being, the "mold-on-the-sandwich" of Earth, to awaken our potential and veer away from the trivial and mundane redundant protocols.

Right now, with world bank powers setting more keystone traps on the playing field -the whole playing field of Earth and the space around it- , it seems like we are headed to a future more akin to the video game series "Fallout"... confused Collect your bottle caps from now, people.

Oh, and like hikari mangetsu recalled, "Where there is smoke there is fire." It is possible to skim through the web for pertinent information if you avoid clicking on the flashy banners. For the factory-line nay-sayers, I try to track information to its source.. to try to find an anchor in something hard and real like 100 mile spans of irradiated green silica glass layered repeatedly throughout the Earth's crust.

[Repellant]

Athavulf

and there are markings in Archaeological finds that support the possibility of some sort of Tesla-bean cannon.

I tried to imagine that device but failed.

[Athavulf]

Lieutenant_Charon

hikari mangetsu

Lieutenant_Charon

God damn I hate it when people rape history.

Oh, and BTW it is not raping history. Some of the theories are under the loupe of some acclaimed scientists. Even one hundred years ago some facts about history, we know now, were just someone's theory, someone's idea that went against everybody else's. History does not have just one side of the medal, not only one true point of view. Never forget, history is written by the winners, those that stayed last. No one asks for the other point of view. And some dozen of centuries after their side, their view of the event, could be also called raping the history. Free minds are those that come to new fresh conclusions and open a new look on ancient times.
And you know the old one, *where there's smoke, there's fire*. And those theories are based on old myths and legends, thus the smoke. Our duty is to find the true fire.

Except all these theories are based on the idea that we don't know much about either the formation of society or the movement and development of peoples.

In both cases, we know a tremendous amount. Simply put, the process with which civilizations developed and advanced are not a mystery. The details, obviously, are, we can only know so much from archeological and written records, but what we do have is pretty clear.

The idea that there were hyper-advanced societies 10,000 or more years ago is simply ridiculous. A handful of "acclaimed scientists" with poor evidence and less documentation are nothing compared to mountains of data, analysis, and evidence done by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and professors and scientists over the years.

After all, there's "acclaimed scientists" who deny global warming and even some who support intelligent design. You just have to find a crackpot, after all.

It's also worth noting that history is not a science.

*Edit* ~Not 10,000 or more, but 1 billion or more. Over and over. 12,000 BC Sumer was like the rebirth of a damn-near extinct bloodline. We are just the foam on top of this primordial soup planet. There is so much more to know, experience, and "obtain without taking" in this world than what mainstream society machine-wraps for you. /*Edit*

It would help you to understand both the way a single human can change history tremendously yet somehow be also swept under the rug of history (his story) can be seen in the life of Nikola Tesla. Again, do your own research, but note the influences of Thomas Edison and J.P. Morgan. History is not reliable because it is always changing, being updated by each successive scientific discovery that is made. It is important to note that these novel discoveries of "extra" features of reality, such as each new nifty gadget Tokyo pumps out and quantum discoveries stack. If this rate of technological advancement were charted out, it would be approaching the base of a violent spike. It's also important to note that new discoveries tend to lead to unintended results and conclusions and most of the archaeological finds were accidental. Around where I live there are thousands of Ancient Mesoamerican sites and quite a few unearthed titanic temples. Just the other day I found a bi-faced awl used for toiling agricultural fields by the Early Pre-classic peoples that came after the Paleoindians hunted out the last of the megafauna. This find indicates that people dwelled in that region more than 2000 years earlier than previously thought. (thought = assumed) Anyway, get my drift?