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uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
He must have never bought his own ammunition.

Or shot his own gun.

Or any gun.
 
     
 
uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fallout-3.jpg

Little too much, methinks.

ETA: I've been drooling over a Tanfoglio/EAA Witness in 10mm, though. After discovering how little recoil affects me (or rather, how backwards. More recoil = more accurate), I've been wondering how I'd fare with a 10mm.
     
Fresnel
uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fallout-3.jpg

Little too much, methinks.
That explains it.

I've never really played Fallout 3 for more than 30 minutes, though, so I didn't get it at first. >.>
 
     
 
Shrantic
Fresnel
uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fallout-3.jpg

Little too much, methinks.
That explains it.

I've never really played Fallout 3 for more than 30 minutes, though, so I didn't get it at first. >.>
If you sweet-talk the right person, you can get yourself a 10mm pistol before you even leave the vault. xd
     
Fresnel
Shrantic
Fresnel
uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fallout-3.jpg

Little too much, methinks.
That explains it.

I've never really played Fallout 3 for more than 30 minutes, though, so I didn't get it at first. >.>
If you sweet-talk the right person, you can get yourself a 10mm pistol before you even leave the vault. xd
If the game had a better shooter aspect to it, I'd probably buy it. But when you get to stop time an select which body parts you want to shoot, I just say "screw it."
 
     
Fresnel
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Then the world is too f***ing stupid to learn that they should stop starting s*** or they'll lose a goddamn eye.
 
Shrantic
Fresnel
Shrantic
Fresnel
uryu ishida
Flavias
I would have to go with a 10mm, they have easy to find ammo, moderate damage, and are relatively quiet. For my close range weapon I would have to go with a bat, they are light weight, and are every ******** where!


Wat?

WAT!?
http://dogsounds.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fallout-3.jpg

Little too much, methinks.
That explains it.

I've never really played Fallout 3 for more than 30 minutes, though, so I didn't get it at first. >.>
If you sweet-talk the right person, you can get yourself a 10mm pistol before you even leave the vault. xd
If the game had a better shooter aspect to it, I'd probably buy it. But when you get to stop time an select which body parts you want to shoot, I just say "screw it."
You can only do it every so often though, and it makes it really fun. xd

That said, I've been playing 7.62 recently, and in "aimed shot" and "scope shot" modes, you can choose which body part you want to aim at. Anything other than the torso reduces your chance to hit, but if your shooter is good and you're pretty close, it's still 100%. In 'snapshot' and 'from the hip' though, you can only aim at the person in general.
     
Where are you getting the information that katanas need to be tediously sharpened and maintained with professional efficacy, and that they chip and break easily?
 
     
 
Stygian Soleil
Where are you getting the information that katanas need to be tediously sharpened and maintained with professional efficacy, and that they chip and break easily?


You do know that there are katana sword-smiths that make real blades still, and that their are people who use and maintain them, right? As well as any number of manuscripts dating from today back to the 1500's.

That is where.
     
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You do know that there are katana sword-smiths that make real blades still, and that their are people who use and maintain them, right? As well as any number of manuscripts dating from today back to the 1500's.

That is where.

Yes, I'm aware of that.


I was looking for sources. Particularly for modern, battle ready blades made of high-carbon steel.
 
     
 
Stygian Soleil
DJ-Anarchy
You do know that there are katana sword-smiths that make real blades still, and that their are people who use and maintain them, right? As well as any number of manuscripts dating from today back to the 1500's.

That is where.

Yes, I'm aware of that.


I was looking for sources. Particularly for modern, battle ready blades made of high-carbon steel.
Yeah, having owned one of those, I gotta say they're not that good. They don't flex AT ALL, they just bend. That kink is never coming out.
     
Fresnel
Yeah, having owned one of those, I gotta say they're not that good. They don't flex AT ALL, they just bend. That kink is never coming out.

I was thinking more along the lines of something non-anecdotal.
 
     
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7582/uncp.jpg

Oh, lol.
 
Stygian Soleil
Fresnel
Yeah, having owned one of those, I gotta say they're not that good. They don't flex AT ALL, they just bend. That kink is never coming out.

I was thinking more along the lines of something non-anecdotal.
Oh, so personal experience isn't good as proof then? Sorry, I'll come back later when reality pertains to reality again.

You got exactly what you asked for, but you didn't like the answer.
     
Katanas are overrated. A medieval European sword is typically of higher quality metal, and is no less effective for killing anything.

I have to say, if your zombies can identify a survivor by sound, then guns of any kind are a terrible choice. They are loud, often make bright flashes, and have limited ammo. As a result, you will attract more zombies, and the more you attract, the more you use up ammo until you are surrounded and empty.

Melee weapons and weapons with reusable ammunition are always your best bet. A bow, or, to conserve strength, a crossbow, can kill a zombie as effectively as a gun, and a cautious, thrifty survivor can retrieve the majority of his ammunition from his targets. They are silent weapons, so you will not attract additional zombies.

As far as melee weapons, I would go with a heavy, blunt instrument. Stabbing and slashing weapons are less effective at getting through a skull, and they often bind and get stuck in bone or flesh. A heavy crushing weapon can do damage to strong bone more readily, without any risk of getting stuck. The Halligan's bar mentioned on the first page would be particularly bad for killing zombies, as a hook-like weapon of that nature is very likely to bind. A solid metal baseball bat, a length of solid rebar (preferably with leather wrappings as a grip), or, if you have access to ancient weapons, a mace, would all be very potent zombie killing weapons.

Of course, it is important to ensure you make use of a weapon you can wield. Big poles may give you a useful reach, but they will be all but useless in close quarters, and tire you out quickly. Go with something strong, easy to wield, and top heavy. It is best not to use something that is too long. Be sure to carry multiple weapons - a smaller weapon like a nightstick or even a fist-sized rock can save your life if they get inside the reach of your larger club.

As mentioned in the OP, anything that can double as a tool is a good choice. Crowbars, axes, hammers (not sledgehammers) and shovels can all be very helpful for forced entries, building impromptu barricades, and myriad other uses.

You want to avoid any weapons that make use of gasoline, as they tend to be heavy, loud, and difficult to wield. Not to mention the value of gasoline for travel and power if you come across a generator.

The savvy zombie hunter will survive through stealth, thrift, speed, and ingenuity, not brawn and bullets.
 
     
 
fatal_GRACE
Katanas are overrated. A medieval European sword is typically of higher quality metal, and is no less effective for killing anything.
It should be noted that most of the more popular European weapons weren't made to kill a man so much as they were made to punch through steel armor, only incidentally killing the man inside. Rapier-era weapons are the kind you want. Middle-eastern weapons too, 'cos it's too ******** hot to wear plate armor in Arabia.

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I have to say, if your zombies can identify a survivor by sound, then guns of any kind are a terrible choice. They are loud, often make bright flashes, and have limited ammo. As a result, you will attract more zombies, and the more you attract, the more you use up ammo until you are surrounded and empty.
That assumes an infinite number of zombies are in earshot.

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Melee weapons and weapons with reusable ammunition are always your best bet. A bow, or, to conserve strength, a crossbow, can kill a zombie as effectively as a gun, and a cautious, thrifty survivor can retrieve the majority of his ammunition from his targets. They are silent weapons, so you will not attract additional zombies.
Hunting bows are incredibly loud. I heard one that was physically painful to listen to. It had the report of a .22, AND it had silencers on it. Yeah, they make bow silencers. They look like little koosh balls...

Also, arrows are really ******** hard to find. Something coming off a 100lb bow is going to bounce for a while on a hard surface, or imbed itself deep into a soft one. I fired ten arrows at a target once, missed with all of them (using the wrong sight), and recovered two. And that was a 25-pound bow, with solid black arrows. Not even camouflage.

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Be sure to carry multiple weapons - a smaller weapon like a nightstick or even a fist-sized rock can save your life if they get inside the reach of your larger club.
If they're inside the reach of an axe or similar long club, you won't have TIME to draw another weapon. You won't even have time to recover from a failed swing.
     
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Fresnel
It should be noted that most of the more popular European weapons weren't made to kill a man so much as they were made to punch through steel armor, only incidentally killing the man inside. Rapier-era weapons are the kind you want. Middle-eastern weapons too, 'cos it's too ******** hot to wear plate armor in Arabia.

Yeah, but something with a lot of punch is what you want. You aren't trying to get the zombie to bleed to death, you are trying to break skulls and remove limbs.

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That assumes an infinite number of zombies are in earshot.

No, it just assumes there are more zombies in earshot than you have bullets. Not to mention that even if you kill all the zombies in the area, you still have to have enough bullets for the next area, and so on and so forth. There won't always be a gun shop nearby.

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Hunting bows are incredibly loud. I heard one that was physically painful to listen to. It had the report of a .22, AND it had silencers on it. Yeah, they make bow silencers. They look like little koosh balls...

Also, arrows are really ******** hard to find. Something coming off a 100lb bow is going to bounce for a while on a hard surface, or imbed itself deep into a soft one. I fired ten arrows at a target once, missed with all of them (using the wrong sight), and recovered two. And that was a 25-pound bow, with solid black arrows. Not even camouflage.
Hunting bows are huge, complex, powerful weapons. There are smaller, less noisy bows available that don't make such a huge amount of noise, and though not as strong as hunting bows, they can still do some damage. And crossbows can be even better, since they do not tax your strength to draw.

As mentioned, a 100 lb bow is probably more than you will need, and ideally, your arrows will be embedded in their targets, not skipping off into the distance or hitting trees. If you do miss, a little silver or neon spray paint makes them more visible without affecting their flight (unless you spray the fletchings like a retard). Even if you only find 1 in 5, that's still more than the bullets you'll be recovering.

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If they're inside the reach of an axe or similar long club, you won't have TIME to draw another weapon. You won't even have time to recover from a failed swing.
It never hurts to be prepared, and smaller weapons can find their uses in cramped quarters, as impromptu thrown weapons, and other situations.
 
     
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