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Shrantic
Oh, and in regards to volley fire, I'm thinking of holding the bolt with your index finger and thumb, and pulling the trigger with the middle finger.
Ho ho! You're going Brit style, eh?
 
     


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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree. If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs. The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.

Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.

*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.
     
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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree. If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs. The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.

Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.

*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
 
     
 
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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree. If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs. The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.

Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.

*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
Generally, any vehicle that can go faster than a zombie is good enough.

An unecessarily gigantic (until NOW) redneck truck would be fantastic. Even if you slam into them head on, you don't suffer any kind of loss of function.

Even at that, you can mount a turret on the back of it.
     
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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree. If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs. The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.

Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.

*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
Generally, any vehicle that can go faster than a zombie is good enough.

An unecessarily gigantic (until NOW) redneck truck would be fantastic. Even if you slam into them head on, you don't suffer any kind of loss of function.

Even at that, you can mount a turret on the back of it.


Bodies ******** up even the best of cars. Unless of course you put one of those cow catcher things from a train on the front.
 
     

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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree. If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs. The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.

Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.

*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
Generally, any vehicle that can go faster than a zombie is good enough.

An unecessarily gigantic (until NOW) redneck truck would be fantastic. Even if you slam into them head on, you don't suffer any kind of loss of function.

Even at that, you can mount a turret on the back of it.

Two things: First, the Killdozer.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/0/8/killdozer.jpg


Dude built this thing in a couple days in a simple machine shop. They only stopped him because of a mechanical failure in the engine followed by his suicide. It still took several hours to dig his body out of the ******** thing. Absolutely wrecked house with it before it failed. Imagine a month's work.

Second: There's a British car show called Top Gear. They do some crazy s**t, including trying to break a Toyota Tundra. The deal was, if they could fix it without replacing any parts, it wasn't destroyed. They drove it into the ocean, they even had it lifted onto the roof of a very tall building just before it was imploded. They still got it running again in less than three hours. So yeah, redneck truck FTW.
     
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*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
Generally, any vehicle that can go faster than a zombie is good enough.

An unecessarily gigantic (until NOW) redneck truck would be fantastic. Even if you slam into them head on, you don't suffer any kind of loss of function.

Even at that, you can mount a turret on the back of it.

Two things: First, the Killdozer.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/0/8/killdozer.jpg


Dude built this thing in a couple days in a simple machine shop. They only stopped him because of a mechanical failure in the engine followed by his suicide. It still took several hours to dig his body out of the ******** thing. Absolutely wrecked house with it before it failed. Imagine a month's work.

Second: There's a British car show called Top Gear. They do some crazy s**t, including trying to break a Toyota Tundra. The deal was, if they could fix it without replacing any parts, it wasn't destroyed. They drove it into the ocean, they even had it lifted onto the roof of a very tall building just before it was imploded. They still got it running again in less than three hours. So yeah, redneck truck FTW.
If there's one things rednecks know how to do, it's stay alive in a zombie invasion.
 
     
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how soon forever arrives.
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*facepalm* Those aren't fingerholes for better grip, that's a goddamn knuckle duster for breaking jaws and s**t. And straight edges can cut, just not as roughly as a serrated edge, and they need to be sharpened more.
He said "better grip", not "brass knuckles".

As for straight edges, good luck cutting through clothing with that. It MIGHT happen, but I would rather have a knife that could slice straight through denim without trouble.

You just need to nick cloth, then it tears, with a few exceptions. But silk ain't practical, so that's not a worry here.

But I'll admit, I like a knife with the serrations at the base.

EDIT: slightly unrelated: You have thirty days. Why not build a Killdozer, as well as stockpiling gear? Perfect escape vehicle, even if it is kinda slow.
Generally, any vehicle that can go faster than a zombie is good enough.

An unecessarily gigantic (until NOW) redneck truck would be fantastic. Even if you slam into them head on, you don't suffer any kind of loss of function.

Even at that, you can mount a turret on the back of it.

Two things: First, the Killdozer.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/0/8/killdozer.jpg


Dude built this thing in a couple days in a simple machine shop. They only stopped him because of a mechanical failure in the engine followed by his suicide. It still took several hours to dig his body out of the ******** thing. Absolutely wrecked house with it before it failed. Imagine a month's work.

Second: There's a British car show called Top Gear. They do some crazy s**t, including trying to break a Toyota Tundra. The deal was, if they could fix it without replacing any parts, it wasn't destroyed. They drove it into the ocean, they even had it lifted onto the roof of a very tall building just before it was imploded. They still got it running again in less than three hours. So yeah, redneck truck FTW.
If there's one things rednecks know how to do, it's stay alive in a zombie invasion.


And how to best eat roadkill.
     
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You could use you're self as a zombie weapon
Your grammar could be a weapon of mass destruction. Murder via headache.

 
     
 
Ninth Pariah

Two things: First, the Killdozer.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/0/8/killdozer.jpg


Dude built this thing in a couple days in a simple machine shop. They only stopped him because of a mechanical failure in the engine followed by his suicide. It still took several hours to dig his body out of the ******** thing. Absolutely wrecked house with it before it failed. Imagine a month's work.

Second: There's a British car show called Top Gear. They do some crazy s**t, including trying to break a Toyota Tundra. The deal was, if they could fix it without replacing any parts, it wasn't destroyed. They drove it into the ocean, they even had it lifted onto the roof of a very tall building just before it was imploded. They still got it running again in less than three hours. So yeah, redneck truck FTW.
Infortunately, you're a bit misinformed. The Killdozer took several months, and evaded the 'watchful' eyes of city inspectors, WHO WERE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH IT. Not to mention the fact that the thing had an electronic camera system, a pneumatic camera-cleaning system, two ARs and a Barrett .50 on the roof.

It was actually a Hilux. And yeah... did you see the challenge part deux, where they put it on the roof of a 20-story building and demolished it? This is why it's a rather popular base for a Technical.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Technical_Liberia.jpg
     
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Two things: First, the Killdozer.


http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/1/0/8/killdozer.jpg


Dude built this thing in a couple days in a simple machine shop. They only stopped him because of a mechanical failure in the engine followed by his suicide. It still took several hours to dig his body out of the ******** thing. Absolutely wrecked house with it before it failed. Imagine a month's work.

Second: There's a British car show called Top Gear. They do some crazy s**t, including trying to break a Toyota Tundra. The deal was, if they could fix it without replacing any parts, it wasn't destroyed. They drove it into the ocean, they even had it lifted onto the roof of a very tall building just before it was imploded. They still got it running again in less than three hours. So yeah, redneck truck FTW.
Infortunately, you're a bit misinformed. The Killdozer took several months, and evaded the 'watchful' eyes of city inspectors, WHO WERE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH IT. Not to mention the fact that the thing had an electronic camera system, a pneumatic camera-cleaning system, two ARs and a Barrett .50 on the roof.

It was actually a Hilux. And yeah... did you see the challenge part deux, where they put it on the roof of a 20-story building and demolished it? This is why it's a rather popular base for a Technical.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Technical_Liberia.jpg


Ok, misinformed on the Killdozer. s**t was sick, though.

And yes, I even mentioned it already. And then the ******** drove it onto the set. Ownage. I also liked the amphibious car challenge. I saw that second attempt at that one yesterday. Again with a pickup truck; sealed goddamn everything, welded the doors shut, used a couple epmty barrels on posts for balance in the water, and put a big ******** outboard motor on it. Crossed the goddamn English Channel in it. ******** tough-a** s**t, pickups.
 
     


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And yes, I even mentioned it already.
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Shrantic
What the hell is a knife like that going to do to something that can't feel pain? All it's going to do is make him bleed all over the place, increasing your chance of getting infected.

A trench knife, on the other hand, could pierce right through the skull. It's got better grip, and a spear-point style blade that aids in penetration. In WWI, they reported that it could even stab through enemy helmets. (Though I have not confirmed this yet.)
It can cut muscles beyond a usable degree.
Doesn't matter if they have more!
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If you happen to be in a tight spot, you can use it to disable limbs.
Doesn't matter 'cause they have four!
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The handle is just fine as well, you don't need fingerholes to have good grip.
Those are for punching. stare
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Not that a trench knife doesn't have it's uses.

If you have one, by all means use it. I'm not sure if you can find them serrated, but I would recommend having a serrated knife of some kind. Straight edged knives can't cut for crap.
Yeah, because scalpels and katana can't cut for s**t, right?

By the way, in case you haven't noticed, the trench knife is for stabbing.
 
     
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Anyone else here get Shooting Illustrated magazine? I just read this month's earlier today. They had a GREAT article on the effectiveness of the 12-gauge Remington 870 versus the Colt M4 (civilian version) as a man-stopper. The shotgun dominates out to about 50 yards. The test went to 125. After the 50 yard mark, the rounds still mostly hit (as a note: at 25 yards through a cylinder bore, 35/36 pellets of 00 landed on target), but they've lost so much speed that the 55gr .223 bullets actually dump more energy into the target. Also, because of the distance and increased aim time, fewer slugs landed on-target. But on the other hand, it's only a .223. The other one is a .73" and weighs almost ten times as much. Because k=1/2*mv^2 (kinetic energy, mass, and velocity respectively), velocity wins in the numbers section, but it's still a big ******** hole. Enter hydrostatic shock. Both shooters were experts with the weapon, however, they were both issued 100% factory stock weapons, and not allowed to sight them in. That screws the M4 because he doesn't know his sights, but it screws the 870 worse because has HAS no sights. Only a bead, and no rear marking to line it up with. He only landed 2 slugs at 100 yards inside the 3 second time limit. When allowed to use their own, highly customized weapons, neither missed. The author's recommendation: cops should be able to choose which goes into their cruiser, but if they choose the 870... give them ghost-ring sights. The author also backs up a couple things I've said for a while though... a solid torso shot with a 12-gauge slug WILL stop a fight, and rifled slugs in a smooth barrel are accurate to 100 yards AND BEYOND. Overall, the velocity at 100 yards is within 200fps between the two rounds, and the kinetic energy of the two is 1,934j vs. 3018j. The test was re-done with the shooters' personal guns and briefly summarized... the rifle still came out ahead, but only by sheer number of bullets.

I kind of want to see what an 870's slug at close range will do to a man through soft armor. I know it'll catch the slug, but will it spall his ribs? xd
     
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I have a question... Isn't it harder to pull a serrated knife free from flesh if you stab with it? I could have sworn I'd heard that in relation to a bayonett my grandpa had.
 
     
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