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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
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I dunno. The M14 and FAL are good, reliable weapons if you can handle the weight and recoil. They also make excellent clubs in melee. It's better than having to draw a separate melee weapon. The butt on an M14 will crack a skull wide open if swung properly, and I don't see why the FAL would be any different, if a bit more cumbersome to attack with. Plus, both have civilian legal versions. I will agree on the bayonet, broadsword, and fire axe. I don't see much use. I can see the use in a machete if you are in a heavily wooded area, however.


Indeed, that's why I prefered the M-14, despite my experience with the FAL.

The Bayonet, while not optimal against a zombie, is still nevertheless a useful melee weapon that doesn't impede you. And it will be useful around civies incase you need to seize supplies from someone. Better they die then you.
You couldn't just do that at gunpoint? Personally I'd rather not rob at all, but convincing you not to is futile. I know how you are about that kind of thing.

As a melee weapon, I'd rather use the butt than the bayonet. Some M14s have steel plated butts, and those can really ******** someone up.


A bayonet is more intimidating. Most people will not respond to a gun, until you fire a round, which is a waste of ammunition. A bayonet however is a visible sign of aggression and a deadly weapon to a human. Robbing may very well be nessecery as it will be a burden carrying all the food you require with you. Also seizing superior locations and supplies from other survivors will be nessecery.

Yes, the butt will be used more often in combat. However the bayonet is facing the target at all times, and sticking the target can buy you a few seconds, and it doesn't detract from your buttstroke and only minor effect on accuracy assuming you fire standing.
 
     

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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
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Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
     
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Shrantic
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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
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I dunno. The M14 and FAL are good, reliable weapons if you can handle the weight and recoil. They also make excellent clubs in melee. It's better than having to draw a separate melee weapon. The butt on an M14 will crack a skull wide open if swung properly, and I don't see why the FAL would be any different, if a bit more cumbersome to attack with. Plus, both have civilian legal versions. I will agree on the bayonet, broadsword, and fire axe. I don't see much use. I can see the use in a machete if you are in a heavily wooded area, however.


Indeed, that's why I prefered the M-14, despite my experience with the FAL.

The Bayonet, while not optimal against a zombie, is still nevertheless a useful melee weapon that doesn't impede you. And it will be useful around civies incase you need to seize supplies from someone. Better they die then you.
The FAL can be used the same as an M14 for melee by minorly changing your grip.
It's also a solid 9-10 pounds, more if loaded, and largely made of steel (including the STOCK, if it's an FN or Imbel build). It's very tiring to hold up for fire. Some Imbel builds have bi-pods built into the handguard, though.

It's inherently better designed than the M14 in several ways. The stock design of the M14 (or more accurately, all you can get is M1A's) is a traditional style used in hunting rifles today, and older surplus guns as well. It's known as the Monte Carlo stock (though I've heard it called a pistolgrip stock, oddly) The stock design put all the torsion from firing right at the handgrip, making it rotate there. That made it hard to keep a good sight picture, and made it completely uncontrollable during any sort of rapid fire.
The M14 also had the charging handle on the right. I don't PERSONALLY see this as a problem, but many do (because that means it is harder to operate at the shoulder if you are right-handed)
The FAL is a straight-back design, no drop or bend at the grip. Makes it torque less.

I've shot both, and I have to say, for offhand I prefer the M14 even with it's problems, because it's lighter (at least the SOCOM was). My body size won't let me keep a good sight picture with anything in .308, so it doesn't matter there. If I were seated or prone, I wouldn't mind the FAL at all, it's one of my favorite rifles and I've found myself to be very accurate with it. But at it's weight, it's very impractical for carry, even if it has been used. It's pretty damn heavy.
 
     
 
Shrantic
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Shrantic
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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
You're trolling me. neutral


Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
     
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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
You're trolling me. neutral


Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
 
     
 
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Ubasti
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Ubasti
Shrantic
FRF_Hentai_Heitai_Forever
M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
You're trolling me. neutral
I dunno. The M14 and FAL are good, reliable weapons if you can handle the weight and recoil. They also make excellent clubs in melee. It's better than having to draw a separate melee weapon. The butt on an M14 will crack a skull wide open if swung properly, and I don't see why the FAL would be any different, if a bit more cumbersome to attack with. Plus, both have civilian legal versions. I will agree on the bayonet, broadsword, and fire axe. I don't see much use. I can see the use in a machete if you are in a heavily wooded area, however.


Indeed, that's why I prefered the M-14, despite my experience with the FAL.

The Bayonet, while not optimal against a zombie, is still nevertheless a useful melee weapon that doesn't impede you. And it will be useful around civies incase you need to seize supplies from someone. Better they die then you.
You couldn't just do that at gunpoint? Personally I'd rather not rob at all, but convincing you not to is futile. I know how you are about that kind of thing.

As a melee weapon, I'd rather use the butt than the bayonet. Some M14s have steel plated butts, and those can really ******** someone up.


A bayonet is more intimidating. Most people will not respond to a gun, until you fire a round, which is a waste of ammunition. A bayonet however is a visible sign of aggression and a deadly weapon to a human. Robbing may very well be nessecery as it will be a burden carrying all the food you require with you. Also seizing superior locations and supplies from other survivors will be nessecery.

Yes, the butt will be used more often in combat. However the bayonet is facing the target at all times, and sticking the target can buy you a few seconds, and it doesn't detract from your buttstroke and only minor effect on accuracy assuming you fire standing.
Depending on the system of attachment, it CAN flex the barrel and really ******** up the accuracy. That's why the Russians sighted in all their Mosin nagant rifles with the bayonets fixed, so that they could hit anything with them (that, and they were only supposed to take them off if traveling by vehicle, they were supposed to ALWAYS be on at all times on the battlefield).

I know I can't hit s**t at 100 yards with the bayonet folded on my M44. It's spot-on with it extended, though. It also gives it a better balance.
     
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M-14 or FN FAL: Semi-automatic, and large calibre rounds. A solid wood stock for bashing in heads. Also, I refuse to fire any of the feminised pansy weapons that are the 5.56mms.

Handgun: None, handguns are useless and needless weight. Carry more ammo instead.

16 inch Sword Bayonet: Note an optimal weapon, but as you can jam it comfortably on your main weapon (rifle), is handy. Also great for intimidating civilians to hand over supplies to you without wastin ammo.

Broadsword/machete/fireaxe: A good heavy, slashing weapon.
You're trolling me. neutral


Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
 
     
 
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Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
     
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Nope, I just refuse to listen to all sorts of nonsense when the M-14 and FN FAL are in my opinion from my years in the military, the best ******** weapons in existance as of now. Jam a bayonet on one and I will feel invincible.

Handguns are just useless weight that can be better used carrying more ammunition for the M-14.
You can't get either of those. neutral

Also, imagine spending all of your life with one of those heavy rifles and several magazines strapped to you all the time. This is why we have sidearms- to keep us alive while we get back to the rifle whenever we don't have it on us.
You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
 
     
 
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You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
     
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You can't realistically get an M14, but it does have a completely solid civilian counterpart-The M1A. Springfield still makes 'em new today. I've shot the SOCOM, and it was pretty nice. It slaughtered pumpkins at 100 yards with no difficulty.

There are lots of civilian FALs, since they were semi-automatic by default. The L1A1 was fully-automatic, and isn't available. You CAN readily find Imbel and FN FALs for $1200-1400. Springfield M1A's are around $1200 new.
I assumed he was referring to a selective-fire FN FAL, since he mentioned the M14. If he wants a semi-automatic version, though, that's realistic.
TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
They did for several wars, including the two big 'uns. It's all about knowing how to shoot them. The M1 Carbine is downright enjoyable to shoot, other than the high-speed brass narrowly missing your head.
 
     
 
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TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
They did for several wars, including the two big 'uns. It's all about knowing how to shoot them. The M1 Carbine is downright enjoyable to shoot, other than the high-speed brass narrowly missing your head.
I don't have any guns with pistol grips yet, but I couldn't imagine shooting any gun without a pistol grip while moving in rapid succession. It just seems so unnatural. >.>
     
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TECHNICALLY, the M1A is an entirely different beast, but it's built on the same system so I consider them "counterparts".
Do they make one with a pistol grip?

After finally being able to handle an AR-15, I have to say that it makes a world of difference.
Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
They did for several wars, including the two big 'uns. It's all about knowing how to shoot them. The M1 Carbine is downright enjoyable to shoot, other than the high-speed brass narrowly missing your head.
I don't have any guns with pistol grips yet, but I couldn't imagine shooting any gun without a pistol grip while moving in rapid succession. It just seems so unnatural. >.>
Try it at some time, if you have any that aren't bolt-action, and your range allows it. The pistol grip just allows you to get a batter grip on it, and to help fight torsion.
 
     
 
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Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
They did for several wars, including the two big 'uns. It's all about knowing how to shoot them. The M1 Carbine is downright enjoyable to shoot, other than the high-speed brass narrowly missing your head.
I don't have any guns with pistol grips yet, but I couldn't imagine shooting any gun without a pistol grip while moving in rapid succession. It just seems so unnatural. >.>
Try it at some time, if you have any that aren't bolt-action, and your range allows it. The pistol grip just allows you to get a batter grip on it, and to help fight torsion.
...My range is single-load only, and is one long line of shooters firing forward into a range that's only 220 yards long. >.>
     

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Checking out their site, they don't. And really, it's good they don't. They're hideous sons of cthulu. The military had one for a bit designed after the M16-style stock.
Yeah, I saw it, but I really don't think it looks that bad. At least it's more practical- I couldn't imagine using a normal rifle in a direct combat situation.
They did for several wars, including the two big 'uns. It's all about knowing how to shoot them. The M1 Carbine is downright enjoyable to shoot, other than the high-speed brass narrowly missing your head.
I don't have any guns with pistol grips yet, but I couldn't imagine shooting any gun without a pistol grip while moving in rapid succession. It just seems so unnatural. >.>
Try it at some time, if you have any that aren't bolt-action, and your range allows it. The pistol grip just allows you to get a batter grip on it, and to help fight torsion.
...My range is single-load only, and is one long line of shooters firing forward into a range that's only 220 yards long. >.>
Find someone with some remote land they own.
 
     
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