Analyzing/Explaining the Best/Most Common Zombie Weapons

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uryu ishida

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x51 kicks less than .30-06, right? I'm getting much better at handling the more powerful cartridges, but rounds like a 12-gauge still phase me. Though, can't botched reload/handloads break any gun chambered for the rounds?

It's been a long damn time since I've shot either, so I wouldn't know.

Yeah, but at least the AR design dumps everything out the mag well. You should see what a .50 will do. I saw one that puffed the barrel like a Looney Tunes gun. Though the softest kB! I've ever seen was a Mk 19. *phuf* and the top flies open.

Lol. Though I bet that really sucks, to have a gun ruined like that. sad

And what were they doing reloading .50's? Are you talking about muzzle loaders or something? I know of little reason to risk that kind of thing on such expensive and accurate guns...

Match-grade .50 is about ten bucks a round. Hand-loading is three or four.

Damn, I'm out of the loop. I was seriously thinking 6 or so.

Well, when I was watching someone shoot a Barrett, his buddy was telling the group gathered around that every 'clink' was four bucks hitting the ground.

[washu_2004]

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.
Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.
Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

[InterElli]

I need to go to work. Someone else want to field the Katana truths?

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washu_2004

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

That's a semi-auto bird gun. You would SHATTER that thing putting buckshot through it.

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Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

You know, the 700 comes in about twenty calibers. Also, the magazine is non-removable and only holds four or five rounds. Reloads come slow and often.

Quote:

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

Quote:

Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.

A good knife is a survival staple. Just don't get some Kit Rae piece of s**t and call it a combat knife.

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

[uryu ishida]

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washu_2004

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

That's a semi-auto bird gun. You would SHATTER that thing putting buckshot through it.

Quote:

Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

You know, the 700 comes in about twenty calibers. Also, the magazine is non-removable and only holds four or five rounds. Reloads come slow and often.

Quote:

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

Quote:

Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.

A good knife is a survival staple. Just don't get some Kit Rae piece of s**t and call it a combat knife.

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

I don't know about shatter, but it sure as hell wouldn't do it any good. It looks like the biggest "claim to fame" the Vinci has is being modular (but funnily enough, there is currently only one option for each piece other than finishes neutral ), and being expensive, with an MSRP of ~$1500.

Don't they make a 700 with removable (but still 4-round) magazines? Or am I thinking the second-generation that sprouted from the 700?


Seriously, isn't the back of the axe blade essentially a smaller sledge?

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uryu ishida

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washu_2004

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

That's a semi-auto bird gun. You would SHATTER that thing putting buckshot through it.

Quote:

Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

You know, the 700 comes in about twenty calibers. Also, the magazine is non-removable and only holds four or five rounds. Reloads come slow and often.

Quote:

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

Quote:

Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.

A good knife is a survival staple. Just don't get some Kit Rae piece of s**t and call it a combat knife.

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

I don't know about shatter, but it sure as hell wouldn't do it any good. It looks like the biggest "claim to fame" the Vinci has is being modular (but funnily enough, there is currently only one option for each piece other than finishes neutral ), and being expensive, with an MSRP of ~$1500.

Don't they make a 700 with removable (but still 4-round) magazines? Or am I thinking the second-generation that sprouted from the 700?


Seriously, isn't the back of the axe blade essentially a smaller sledge?

That was hyperbolic, but yeah, it'll beat the everloving s**t out of the action.

That's the 7600, b*****d-child of the 700 and the 870.

Depends on the axe, but generally yes.

[uryu ishida]

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uryu ishida

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washu_2004

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

That's a semi-auto bird gun. You would SHATTER that thing putting buckshot through it.

Quote:

Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

You know, the 700 comes in about twenty calibers. Also, the magazine is non-removable and only holds four or five rounds. Reloads come slow and often.

Quote:

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

Quote:

Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.

A good knife is a survival staple. Just don't get some Kit Rae piece of s**t and call it a combat knife.

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

I don't know about shatter, but it sure as hell wouldn't do it any good. It looks like the biggest "claim to fame" the Vinci has is being modular (but funnily enough, there is currently only one option for each piece other than finishes neutral ), and being expensive, with an MSRP of ~$1500.

Don't they make a 700 with removable (but still 4-round) magazines? Or am I thinking the second-generation that sprouted from the 700?


Seriously, isn't the back of the axe blade essentially a smaller sledge?

That was hyperbolic, but yeah, it'll beat the everloving s**t out of the action.

That's the 7600, b*****d-child of the 700 and the 870.

Depends on the axe, but generally yes.

Especially since it's inertial, and it doesn't look adjustable at all.

I was thinking a bolt-action. 770? It might be, if the 710 is related to the 700.

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uryu ishida

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uryu ishida

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washu_2004

Firearms:

Benelli Vinci 12 gauge shotgun, Because it can do a good amount of damage at close range where most fighting will occur. Also the ammo is pretty common so I would be able to obtain a large amount of it with little to no difficulty from a gun shop.

That's a semi-auto bird gun. You would SHATTER that thing putting buckshot through it.

Quote:

Remington Model 700, Because it is an accurate rifle that can easily drop a man (which is what this kind zombie is effectively) at range, and the ammo is also reasonably easy to come by. It is also very easy to maintain.

You know, the 700 comes in about twenty calibers. Also, the magazine is non-removable and only holds four or five rounds. Reloads come slow and often.

Quote:

Colt M1911 Pistol: A common sporting shooters pistol with easy to obtain ammo. It would make an ideal 'emergency weapon' in case of a jam.

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

Quote:

Combat Knife: useful for a variety of tasks apart from combat.

A good knife is a survival staple. Just don't get some Kit Rae piece of s**t and call it a combat knife.

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

I don't know about shatter, but it sure as hell wouldn't do it any good. It looks like the biggest "claim to fame" the Vinci has is being modular (but funnily enough, there is currently only one option for each piece other than finishes neutral ), and being expensive, with an MSRP of ~$1500.

Don't they make a 700 with removable (but still 4-round) magazines? Or am I thinking the second-generation that sprouted from the 700?


Seriously, isn't the back of the axe blade essentially a smaller sledge?

That was hyperbolic, but yeah, it'll beat the everloving s**t out of the action.

That's the 7600, b*****d-child of the 700 and the 870.

Depends on the axe, but generally yes.

Especially since it's inertial, and it doesn't look adjustable at all.

I was thinking a bolt-action. 770? It might be, if the 710 is related to the 700.

Even in an M4 Tactical you have to switch out recoil spring groups.

Yeah, 770. That's the one.

[InterElli]

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washu_2004

Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

For un-armored opponents, you can't do much better then a well made katana. But the level of care and maintenance a katana requires to keep it form falling apart makes it impractical as a survival weapon.

Quote:

Quote:

Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

I think she meant you could take one or the other, that is what I got form her post anyway.

Quote:

My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

At least she has a plan that she has thought about, that's better than most newcomers to this thread.


**EDIT**

This was supposed to be posted like four hours ago.

[uryu ishida]

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Melee:
Notes: Melee should always be a last option. Hand to hand combat against an opponent who knows neither fear or pain is not exactly practical. That said I would use these weapons.

Katana: good for close combat.

Not really, no.

For un-armored opponents, you can't do much better then a well made katana. But the level of care and maintenance a katana requires to keep it form falling apart makes it impractical as a survival weapon.
Not really, no, I would bet a roman shortsword would work just as well, or any other shortsword. Most blades would likely work better.

[Fresnel]

InterElli

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Sledgehammer: A useful tool and can double as a weapon
Axe: Same here, dual use tool (I will also need firewood so an axe might be useful)

Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you...

What do you expect a sledge to do that an axe can't?

I think she meant you could take one or the other, that is what I got form her post anyway.

Sounded to me like she meant both. Enh.

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My survival strategy would be to establish a base of operations in defensible area with a good field of vision and team up with some friends so that a round the clock watch could be established at the base and foraging missions could be undertaken with greater safety. when foraging/scavenging and my group encountered some zombies we would evade if possible and fight only if unavoidable, this would conserve our ammo for when it absolutely needed for our survival.

Sounds both generic and idealistic.

At least she has a plan that she has thought about, that's better than most newcomers to this thread.

No, I mean it sounds incredibly general. "I would go to a place and do a thing and survive" general.

[shinyspoon42]

Watching the "Top Sniper" show on the Military channel, where units from a variety of military forces around the world compete in sniping challenges to see who is the best sniper.

So quick question for you guys (note I'm completely uneducated on the subject) what in your opinion is the best sniper rifle which you could access, and would you use a sniper? if so, why or why not is a sniper a viable weapon in the zombie scenario?

Fres, what weapons would you carry?

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uryu ishida

InterElli

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Not really, no.

For un-armored opponents, you can't do much better then a well made katana. But the level of care and maintenance a katana requires to keep it form falling apart makes it impractical as a survival weapon.

Not really, no, I would bet a roman shortsword would work just as well, or any other shortsword. Most blades would likely work better.

Well all of that depends. By Roman short sword, do you mean the Gladius? The Falcata? The Spatha?

I assume you meant Gladius as that is what most people think of when they mean 'Roman short sword'. The Gladius is a short range thrusting weapon, it lacks the length and the leverage to be nearly as effective at cutting as longer blades (Like the Katana and the Spada) are. I.E: Not what you want against diseased zeds. The Gladius has the advantage in that it can be used if something is close enough to grab you, but it also has the disadvantage of only being effective within that range.

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shinyspoon42

Watching the "Top Sniper" show on the Military channel, where units from a variety of military forces around the world compete in sniping challenges to see who is the best sniper.

So quick question for you guys (note I'm completely uneducated on the subject) what in your opinion is the best sniper rifle which you could access, and would you use a sniper? if so, why or why not is a sniper a viable weapon in the zombie scenario?

Fres, what weapons would you carry?

The best sniper rifle in the world?
(Probably) The CheyTac Intervention Long-Range Rifle System. (sp?)

Best "sniper rifle" a civilian could come across?
No clue. I like the M1A, though. But that's more of a semi-automatic battle rifle.

Now, I wouldn't recommend sniping zombies, anyways. I mean, sure, you can take them out without them being anywhere near you. But for each time you pop a zed's head, at least 2 more will be drawn to the area from the sound of gunshots.

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shinyspoon42

Watching the "Top Sniper" show on the Military channel, where units from a variety of military forces around the world compete in sniping challenges to see who is the best sniper.

So quick question for you guys (note I'm completely uneducated on the subject) what in your opinion is the best sniper rifle which you could access, and would you use a sniper? if so, why or why not is a sniper a viable weapon in the zombie scenario?

Fres, what weapons would you carry?

The closest thing to a sniper rifle I'd carry is probably a TUBB-2000t in .308. 1200 yard accuracy (before the .308 breaks the sound barrier and tumbles), competition-smooth internal bolt (so you don't have to move your face to work it), and available 25-round AR-10 magazines. I've seen guys with a TUBB pump ten rounds into the X-ring of a target in under a minute from 300 yards, and that's without a bipod AND with a mandatory reload.

But WOULD I take it? Nope. An AR-15 is accurate to 800+ meters with heavy ball or AP ammo, but can still hold 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 90, and 100 round magazines. And it's semi-auto. If I ever had to engage anything beyond eight hundred yards, I's doin it rong.