Abstinence Only, A Proven Failure

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simlanna

Fran Salaska

@Heartfout: it's Nick Clegg. : )

At OP: They had to study to figure it out? Didn't they notice the rise in teen pregnancies?

A lot of times, researchers do studies that seem obvious because they have to get the actual numbers and so that there is a baseline to use for other studies.

There is that, but sometimes a study needs to be made so the naysayers will see the light. Sadly they still don't

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Doragon Shinzui

a realistic christian

Well, I have a huge problem with pre-marriage sex because it leads to abortion of the unexpected baby most of the time. And abortion is bad because it is denying life, it is murder, and it is not the choice of the mother to murder the baby that could be the next Einstein. Anyways, I think safe sex should be taught, and people should learn about the risks. I think it would be great if they would just wait, but obviously they won't.

Abortion is not the issue! K?

It's kinda funny how people can miss the point entirely and jump to another point that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

[bluerain202]

a realistic christian

Well, I have a huge problem with pre-marriage sex because it leads to abortion of the unexpected baby most of the time. And abortion is bad because it is denying life, it is murder, and it is not the choice of the mother to murder the baby that could be the next Einstein. Anyways, I think safe sex should be taught, and people should learn about the risks. I think it would be great if they would just wait, but obviously they won't.

What????? I've never been pregnant because I've been safe and educated. People who are married have abortions too, dude. Not everybody wants to have a fourth unexpected child when you're not rich, evangelical, orthodox, or in a world without overpopulation and plenty of unadopted babies galore.

[bluerain202]

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Vathalas

The question would be if abstinence-only is a "proven" failure by itself, or if there are other factors counteracting the desired consequences that abstincence-only programs seek. Given the fact that we live in a sex-saturated society, even the most rigurous abstinence-only program is bound to have some moderate to high rate of failure, not because of the program alone, but because of the enormous influence that society has upon the individual.

When something becomes a general rule (pre-marital sexual relationships, in this case), then it becomes something that society strives to make acceptable. That's why they fight so hard against abstinence-only programs. The same happens with those who support the legalization of drugs... and the same would happen with exhibitionism and other kinds of behaviors as long as they start being seen as the general rule in society.

The media plays an important role in this, and it has a high quota of responsibility in the "proven failure" of abstinence-only programs. Actually, it makes the media one of the most irresponsible means to affect and influence the individual inserted in society.

Read the article, children exposed to Abstinence only sex ed ar as likely as students not exposed to it, to have sex. Those who are taught Abstinence only however, are less likely to use birth control.

Not to mention are less likely to have access to birth control.

Some of the reasons why these teens do not have sex is because there is shame in buying BC and/or they don't want their parents to find out.

Pre-marital sex has been demonized by many institutions, particular those with Christian leanings like most of America, despite what happens behind closed doors.

@Vathalas:I don't really believe the "media" hype since people have been having sex out of wedlock, and the whole abstinence only thing has been practically law , for hundreds of years. One good read of Angela's Ashes would give you a clear idea of that wink .

It's just sad in general that sexuality is so demonized by Christians (due to the "sex is icky" St Paul, almost single-handedly). You'd think, however, that they would "get it" after almost 2000 years of trying. rofl

[bluerain202]

Femaleavatar

This is why marriage exists. All of humanity has a moral obligation a duty to resist sinful urges. By doing this we prove our morality until we are of age to marry. And then we fulfill our Genetic Duty to become parents.

The height of morality is starting a big family that will eventually become a bigger family. smile You can be saved from sinful immoral practices, and walk the path of morality like I have. Doing what is right is not always easy.

Sorry, "resistance to sin" is not in our DNA. I feel bad for you that you think that sex is morally wrong and actually hurts someone and that you're feeling guilty for nothing. Why be ashamed of what is actually natural? Don't smile or laugh, you might enjoy it and that kind of intimate feeling shouldn't be shared or experienced...?

Ew @ the "height of morality". My morals dictate that it's gross to produce a large amount of offspring while there are so many children who are in needs of homes on this Earth already. Sounds more selfish and sinful to me.

I would feel even more bad for you if you think that sex is only for producing babies. Women even have a specific organ for pleasure! Please get yourself a bit more educated outside of indoctrination. Learn to think a tad for yourself.

[nitznitz]

Now in all seriousness, that's why you need actual sex ed instead of doing unreasonable stuff as "HURR DURR NO SEX TILL MARRIAGE", since many people can't stick to it.

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nitznitz

Now in all seriousness, that's why you need actual sex ed instead of doing unreasonable stuff as "HURR DURR NO SEX TILL MARRIAGE", since many people can't stick to it.

But that is precisely what we teach our children, that sex is evil, and they shouldn't do it. Hurray for abstenance only! /sarcasm

[nitznitz]

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nitznitz

Now in all seriousness, that's why you need actual sex ed instead of doing unreasonable stuff as "HURR DURR NO SEX TILL MARRIAGE", since many people can't stick to it.

But that is precisely what we teach our children, that sex is evil, and they shouldn't do it. Hurray for abstenance only! /sarcasm

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I just SAID that no sex till marriage is not the solution and that actual sex ed should be put in place.

[Ryu Kei Shou Kawazu]

they say they pledged when they didnt pledge for themselves only for a group they were probably forced to go to because of their parents? lol I wouldnt call that a real pledge.