Aplos
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- Posted: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:10:41 +0000
I read last night an article on animenewsnetwork about a man facing 20 years of imprisonment for ordering some mangas from Japan. The reason being that the mangas contain obscene material and my guess is it is probably lolicon.
You can read the article Here
But as Carl Horn says in the article, forget about what the manga might contain and just tell me, does that person deserve to go to prison for owning drawings, not real photos or anything, just drawings, no matter how "immoral" (and morals are highly subjective) it may be? Is it no an infringement on his freedom of speech?
Even if it is the worst case, depicting prepubescent children in sexual acts, can you still count it as child pornography? I mean, no actual children are depicted. So no children were "harmed" in its making. And I assume he doesn't go around displaying its contents so he is not "harming" anyone else. Then shouldn't it be his prerogative to get off on whatever kind of drawings he wants to?!
Are you going to argue that it is indicative of a mentally disturbed person? Fine! As long as he doesn't go around molesting children then that's his own problem and should he wish to seek help he must do so on his own free will. I suffer from depression but no one forced me to take meds for it. As long as I didn't hurt anyone else then it's my own problem. I take the meds of my own free will and not because someone else thinks I should because I am not "normal."
So will the immoral content corrupt people and make them commit immoral and illegal acts? So shouldn't they ban "Jackass" ? I'm sure that even if you put age restrictions and warnings on it you will still get lots of idiots who can "legally" view this show, go out and attempt these stupidities. I hate that show, but if they want to watch it they have every right to, just don't end up hurting me and we're ok. If you want to hurt yourself, go right ahead. Darwin's law has been malfunctioning concerning humanity anyways.
So the point is drawings are drawings and since no one is hurt they have no right to label it as immoral and that the owner must be imprisoned. I don't even think they should be confiscated. I am sure there are many of the darker series/maga that many of us own, depicting scenes that could be considered obscene and immoral but they are part of the plot. Would you want them confiscated? Are you really helping the general public or moving us back to the middle ages?
You can read the article Here
But as Carl Horn says in the article, forget about what the manga might contain and just tell me, does that person deserve to go to prison for owning drawings, not real photos or anything, just drawings, no matter how "immoral" (and morals are highly subjective) it may be? Is it no an infringement on his freedom of speech?
Even if it is the worst case, depicting prepubescent children in sexual acts, can you still count it as child pornography? I mean, no actual children are depicted. So no children were "harmed" in its making. And I assume he doesn't go around displaying its contents so he is not "harming" anyone else. Then shouldn't it be his prerogative to get off on whatever kind of drawings he wants to?!
Are you going to argue that it is indicative of a mentally disturbed person? Fine! As long as he doesn't go around molesting children then that's his own problem and should he wish to seek help he must do so on his own free will. I suffer from depression but no one forced me to take meds for it. As long as I didn't hurt anyone else then it's my own problem. I take the meds of my own free will and not because someone else thinks I should because I am not "normal."
So will the immoral content corrupt people and make them commit immoral and illegal acts? So shouldn't they ban "Jackass" ? I'm sure that even if you put age restrictions and warnings on it you will still get lots of idiots who can "legally" view this show, go out and attempt these stupidities. I hate that show, but if they want to watch it they have every right to, just don't end up hurting me and we're ok. If you want to hurt yourself, go right ahead. Darwin's law has been malfunctioning concerning humanity anyways.
So the point is drawings are drawings and since no one is hurt they have no right to label it as immoral and that the owner must be imprisoned. I don't even think they should be confiscated. I am sure there are many of the darker series/maga that many of us own, depicting scenes that could be considered obscene and immoral but they are part of the plot. Would you want them confiscated? Are you really helping the general public or moving us back to the middle ages?