Tae Kwon Do or Kenpo?

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Which martial art interests you BETTER? I think TKD is epic, but I've read a manga where the main characters do kenpo, and it seems really fun. So whadda you like best?

[Fatum]

Kenpo, in my opinion. But TKD is cool as well.

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Muay Thai beats both

[Blasko No Damn Kachi]

TKD, tbh.

[APinoySuperHero]

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Muay Thai beats both

Not really well depending on what Kenpo your talking about. There is chinese kenpo that in our society wouldnt work very well. Then there is Ed Parker Kenpo which if used correctly could dominate. Though if you really think about it, the martial artist himself has more do with the martial art style itself. If we were talking about a no-holds fight to the death Kenpo is supperior to Tae Kwon Do and Muay Thai. Muay Thai has great clinch control kicks and knees but, they still abide by rules unlike Kenpo where we will hit you in the groin rake your eye and punch you in the throat. Tae Kwon Do the weakest link in this disscussion by far in my opinion has great foot work and kicks but, fails in most other aspects. To many times I see in sparring matches where all Tae Kwon Do does is just kick and never follow up with a backnuckle or a reverse punch. Its terrible. Another problem with Tae Kwon Do along with Muay Thai is the fact it totally negates people who grapple now. Who can double leg you or just straight up head lock you and pound from full mount. There is no defense to someone who is an experinced wrestler or some sort of ground fighting expert who knows how to take you to the floor. All in I think Kenpo is one of the best martial art styles.

So Kenpo>Tae Kwon Do

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Muay Thai beats both

Not really well depending on what Kenpo your talking about. There is chinese kenpo that in our society wouldnt work very well. Then there is Ed Parker Kenpo which if used correctly could dominate. Though if you really think about it, the martial artist himself has more do with the martial art style itself. If we were talking about a no-holds fight to the death Kenpo is supperior to Tae Kwon Do and Muay Thai. Muay Thai has great clinch control kicks and knees but, they still abide by rules unlike Kenpo where we will hit you in the groin rake your eye and punch you in the throat. Tae Kwon Do the weakest link in this disscussion by far in my opinion has great foot work and kicks but, fails in most other aspects. To many times I see in sparring matches where all Tae Kwon Do does is just kick and never follow up with a backnuckle or a reverse punch. Its terrible. Another problem with Tae Kwon Do along with Muay Thai is the fact it totally negates people who grapple now. Who can double leg you or just straight up head lock you and pound from full mount. There is no defense to someone who is an experinced wrestler or some sort of ground fighting expert who knows how to take you to the floor. All in I think Kenpo is one of the best martial art styles.

So Kenpo>Tae Kwon Do

Well of course if you watch a TKD match they will use their legs all the time, the martial arts main style is USING THE LEGS! Their not taught to use fists, only the legs really.

My opinion would be Krav Maga could most likely beat Kenpo. I'm going to try and take Krav Maga, and also Shaolin Kempo, but we will have to see in the future how that goes.

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Muay Thai beats both

Not really well depending on what Kenpo your talking about. There is chinese kenpo that in our society wouldnt work very well. Then there is Ed Parker Kenpo which if used correctly could dominate. Though if you really think about it, the martial artist himself has more do with the martial art style itself. If we were talking about a no-holds fight to the death Kenpo is supperior to Tae Kwon Do and Muay Thai. Muay Thai has great clinch control kicks and knees but, they still abide by rules unlike Kenpo where we will hit you in the groin rake your eye and punch you in the throat. Tae Kwon Do the weakest link in this disscussion by far in my opinion has great foot work and kicks but, fails in most other aspects. To many times I see in sparring matches where all Tae Kwon Do does is just kick and never follow up with a backnuckle or a reverse punch. Its terrible. Another problem with Tae Kwon Do along with Muay Thai is the fact it totally negates people who grapple now. Who can double leg you or just straight up head lock you and pound from full mount. There is no defense to someone who is an experinced wrestler or some sort of ground fighting expert who knows how to take you to the floor. All in I think Kenpo is one of the best martial art styles.

So Kenpo>Tae Kwon Do

Well of course if you watch a TKD match they will use their legs all the time, the martial arts main style is USING THE LEGS! Their not taught to use fists, only the legs really.

My opinion would be Krav Maga could most likely beat Kenpo. I'm going to try and take Krav Maga, and also Shaolin Kempo, but we will have to see in the future how that goes.

Krav Maga in my opinion waters to many styles togther to try and make them effective. They shouldnt try to mix so much togther because, in reality if your not going to focus on the spefics for that one fighting style then try to branch in to others. Then what happens there is that your left at a very medicore at almost all aspects you basically know everything but, master none. Also Shaolin Kenpo is different from the style I take. So I am not sure how effective it would be from this day and age. All I can tell is that if you are able to get inside a TKD fighter the TKD fighter wont have a clue what to do and will most likely get either taken to the floor and be destroyed or take some nasty elbows. One more thing we are talking about TKD vs Kenpo. My style is Ed Parkers system of Kenpo which is I guess hawiian kenpo that he modified so it could be used for every day encounters with people trying to beat the s**t out of you.

[Assassin66]

Well of course Krav Maga is blended with other styles, thats how a new martial is made. It takes different parts of different martial arts and puts them together to make a brand new one...I'm sure yo know that much. And I don't see what your talking about not mastering anything, but your mastering the martial art that was created not another one which the new one takes moves from.

All in all Krav Maga puts the more effective moves from different martial arts into one making a better fighting style for combat.

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Assassin66

Well of course Krav Maga is blended with other styles, thats how a new martial is made. It takes different parts of different martial arts and puts them together to make a brand new one...I'm sure yo know that much. And I don't see what your talking about not mastering anything, but your mastering the martial art that was created not another one which the new one takes moves from.

All in all Krav Maga puts the more effective moves from different martial arts into one making a better fighting style for combat.

Thats the problem. You take moves from all different martial arts but, when it goes to action you have mastered none. The reason being is because your so spread out on mastering all from Judo throws to a Muay Thai clinch. Which leads you to being able to do all of those but, being beaten by people who have a much better mastery and focused on that one style and was able to master that martial art. Krav Maga takes the process out from those effective moves they teach to learn the basics of that martial art and take you into the raw move itself and teach it to you without the realization that you proably arent the best grappler in the world. That to start learning a hip throw from scratch and then to learning how to do a spinning hook kick might be a bad way to start to teaching. For the sole reason that all those techniques are watered down from what the orginally were.

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Assassin66

Well of course Krav Maga is blended with other styles, thats how a new martial is made. It takes different parts of different martial arts and puts them together to make a brand new one...I'm sure yo know that much. And I don't see what your talking about not mastering anything, but your mastering the martial art that was created not another one which the new one takes moves from.

All in all Krav Maga puts the more effective moves from different martial arts into one making a better fighting style for combat.

Thats the problem. You take moves from all different martial arts but, when it goes to action you have mastered none. The reason being is because your so spread out on mastering all from Judo throws to a Muay Thai clinch. Which leads you to being able to do all of those but, being beaten by people who have a much better mastery and focused on that one style and was able to master that martial art. Krav Maga takes the process out from those effective moves they teach to learn the basics of that martial art and take you into the raw move itself and teach it to you without the realization that you proably arent the best grappler in the world. That to start learning a hip throw from scratch and then to learning how to do a spinning hook kick might be a bad way to start to teaching. For the sole reason that all those techniques are watered down from what the orginally were.

what you were saying wasn't really what Krav maga does but ok... The style is ment for the middle of combat. its fighting style is straight forward without all those spins and crap, plus I don't get where your getting that they don't teach you the proper way of using the move. Also I think that Krav Maga could beat a Muay Thai fighter becuase it has a veraity of different movies, so even if you say that someone is focused on one set of skills doesn't mean they can beat you. It also depends on the fighter. But someone focused on one style can lose to a person with a verity, as they understand that persons style and can counter it since they know different moves.

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Assassin66

Well of course Krav Maga is blended with other styles, thats how a new martial is made. It takes different parts of different martial arts and puts them together to make a brand new one...I'm sure yo know that much. And I don't see what your talking about not mastering anything, but your mastering the martial art that was created not another one which the new one takes moves from.

All in all Krav Maga puts the more effective moves from different martial arts into one making a better fighting style for combat.

Thats the problem. You take moves from all different martial arts but, when it goes to action you have mastered none. The reason being is because your so spread out on mastering all from Judo throws to a Muay Thai clinch. Which leads you to being able to do all of those but, being beaten by people who have a much better mastery and focused on that one style and was able to master that martial art. Krav Maga takes the process out from those effective moves they teach to learn the basics of that martial art and take you into the raw move itself and teach it to you without the realization that you proably arent the best grappler in the world. That to start learning a hip throw from scratch and then to learning how to do a spinning hook kick might be a bad way to start to teaching. For the sole reason that all those techniques are watered down from what the orginally were.

what you were saying wasn't really what Krav maga does but ok... The style is ment for the middle of combat. its fighting style is straight forward without all those spins and crap, plus I don't get where your getting that they don't teach you the proper way of using the move. Also I think that Krav Maga could beat a Muay Thai fighter becuase it has a veraity of different movies, so even if you say that someone is focused on one set of skills doesn't mean they can beat you. It also depends on the fighter. But someone focused on one style can lose to a person with a verity, as they understand that persons style and can counter it since they know different moves.

Thats funny last time I checked one of the best fighters in the world from K1 max used a spinning hook kick and floored a guy to the floor. Along with Anderson doing a spinning side thrust kick and using it effectively. See but, the problem with knowing the strengths in weakness is the person will also know your strengths and weakness. So lets say your fighting a boxer who is a much superior in footwork hand speed timing and gap control. He can basically dictate your whole game plan and now your forced to play his game where you may have had basic knowlage of boxing but, your not going to be on his level. Same with a Muay Thai fighter if you were to get close to him and got you into the clinch you wouldnt be able to defend it. You would know how to get out of it but, its obvious that his clinch game dominates yours just for the reason being he knows how to work a clinch better then you. It dictates the same for any martial artist who has a basic knowlage of what your trying to do.

[CaptGwyn]

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Well of course if you watch a TKD match they will use their legs all the time, the martial arts main style is USING THE LEGS! Their not taught to use fists, only the legs really.

As a student of TKD I know that is a bold face lie. We are taught and encouraged to use both our hands and legs. To neglect such a powerful weapon as our hands would be foolish.

And besides, watching a match and watching the style are two different things.

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CaptGwyn

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Well of course if you watch a TKD match they will use their legs all the time, the martial arts main style is USING THE LEGS! Their not taught to use fists, only the legs really.

As a student of TKD I know that is a bold face lie. We are taught and encouraged to use both our hands and legs. To neglect such a powerful weapon as our hands would be foolish.

And besides, watching a match and watching the style are two different things.

Well I have gone up against a so-called Tae Kwon Do black belts just in point sparring. I am not at point sparring but, your style is so predictable. Your either going to go for wheel kicks or side thrust and not try to follow it up then continue to get dominanted with straight out blitzs when you get there timing down. Its the tendencys I see in Tae Kwon Do martial artist that make me question the martial art itself. Nice kicks and quick footwork will only get Martial Artist so far. Its critical that Tae Kwon Do to evolve because anyone with a basic idea of range ground and timing will just ruin a Tae Kwon Do fighters. That goes for people who know how to fight on the inside also because most people usually do get on the inside and wreck TKD fighters.

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Well of course if you watch a TKD match they will use their legs all the time, the martial arts main style is USING THE LEGS! Their not taught to use fists, only the legs really.

As a student of TKD I know that is a bold face lie. We are taught and encouraged to use both our hands and legs. To neglect such a powerful weapon as our hands would be foolish.

And besides, watching a match and watching the style are two different things.

Well I have gone up against a so-called Tae Kwon Do black belts just in point sparring. I am not at point sparring but, your style is so predictable. Your either going to go for wheel kicks or side thrust and not try to follow it up then continue to get dominanted with straight out blitzs when you get there timing down. Its the tendencys I see in Tae Kwon Do martial artist that make me question the martial art itself. Nice kicks and quick footwork will only get Martial Artist so far. Its critical that Tae Kwon Do to evolve because anyone with a basic idea of range ground and timing will just ruin a Tae Kwon Do fighters. That goes for people who know how to fight on the inside also because most people usually do get on the inside and wreck TKD fighters.

Which is exactly why I never went to a tournament in my Taekwondo days. The competitors have their arms dangling on their sides, which made my jaw drop when I started watching competition videos. Granted, I'm sure most of them used their fists during a casual spar in their Dojang but refuse to in an actual tourney thanks to WTF (World Taekwondo Federation, funny acronym) and their restricting point system. Once I found out punching didn't get you squat points, what made me disappointed was the competitors I'd be fighting. Basically, I'd go from swinging to playing p***y-foot with the other guy which I refused to do.

Thats just my two cents on the tournaments.