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Carsayzlyum
2 years away isn't that bad at all.
It's like they say, A black belt is just a white belt that never gave up.

In all these years I've honestly never heard that epic saying! Awesome!
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Yea, I really like it 3nodding
goingd
Carsayzlyum
2 years away isn't that bad at all.
It's like they say, A black belt is just a white belt that never gave up.

In all these years I've honestly never heard that epic saying! Awesome!


It's painted at my dojo.
only difference between a black belt and a white belt, is a where a white belt may have done a technique thousands of times, a black belt has done it millions of times.
Another quote I like (though it's postered everywhere) is, "A black belt is nothing more than a belt that goes around your waist. Being a black belt is a state of mind and attitude."
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Thats really true. Even some black belts aren't really convincing. You can tell the ones who have trained like mad and worked and earned it easily.

Also, gd, which form series do you use? We do kicho il bo, then taegeuk, then for blackbelt koryo, keumgang, etc...
Carsayzlyum
Thats really true. Even some black belts aren't really convincing. You can tell the ones who have trained like mad and worked and earned it easily.

Also, gd, which form series do you use? We do kicho il bo, then taegeuk, then for blackbelt koryo, keumgang, etc...

My school covers Kicho-il-bo through Kicho-oh-bo, it covers all eight Palgue forms and all eight Taegeuk forms, then goes into Koryo, Keumgang, Taebaek, Pyongwon, etc... Personally I think it is way to much. Twenty two forms before black belt! I see no point in it.

I have my own curriculum though. The form aspect follows:
White Belt - Kicho-il-bo
Yellow Belt - Taegeuk-il-Jang
Orange Belt - Taegeuk-yi-jang
Purple Belt - Taegeuk-sam-jang
Green Belt - Taegeuk-sah-jang
2nd Green Belt - Palgue-sah-jang (wanted to include one palgue for tradition)
Blue Belt - Taegeuk-oh-jang
2nd Blue Belt - Taegeuk-yook-jang
Red Belt - Taegeuk-chil-jang
2nd Red Belt - Taegeuk-pal-jang

For me less in more. I believe in simplifying things as much as you feel you should, and distilling what is taught rather than watering it down.
goingd
Another quote I like (though it's postered everywhere) is, "A black belt is nothing more than a belt that goes around your waist. Being a black belt is a state of mind and attitude."
a belt is just used to hold your pants up.
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goingd
Carsayzlyum
Thats really true. Even some black belts aren't really convincing. You can tell the ones who have trained like mad and worked and earned it easily.

Also, gd, which form series do you use? We do kicho il bo, then taegeuk, then for blackbelt koryo, keumgang, etc...

My school covers Kicho-il-bo through Kicho-oh-bo, it covers all eight Palgue forms and all eight Taegeuk forms, then goes into Koryo, Keumgang, Taebaek, Pyongwon, etc... Personally I think it is way to much. Twenty two forms before black belt! I see no point in it.

I have my own curriculum though. The form aspect follows:
White Belt - Kicho-il-bo
Yellow Belt - Taegeuk-il-Jang
Orange Belt - Taegeuk-yi-jang
Purple Belt - Taegeuk-sam-jang
Green Belt - Taegeuk-sah-jang
2nd Green Belt - Palgue-sah-jang (wanted to include one palgue for tradition)
Blue Belt - Taegeuk-oh-jang
2nd Blue Belt - Taegeuk-yook-jang
Red Belt - Taegeuk-chil-jang
2nd Red Belt - Taegeuk-pal-jang

For me less in more. I believe in simplifying things as much as you feel you should, and distilling what is taught rather than watering it down.


That is a lot of forms. We teach kicho yi and sam bo, but they aren't required for tests, its just something to do instead of basic motions sweatdrop

I always go to tournaments and you can find 5 people all the same rank doing a different form from a different series. Its intense... Our 1st gups learn koryo for their black belt test.
i've been in taekwondo now for 13 years and i am going to be receiving my 2nd dan black belt in october of this year. I am currently on the DEMO team for my school along with our specialized tournament team which we call our SWAT team which we have classes several times a week that focuses on nothing but sparring and sparring drills training for upcoming tournaments. I am also one of the few Instructors of the school.
Carsayzlyum
goingd
Carsayzlyum
Thats really true. Even some black belts aren't really convincing. You can tell the ones who have trained like mad and worked and earned it easily.

Also, gd, which form series do you use? We do kicho il bo, then taegeuk, then for blackbelt koryo, keumgang, etc...

My school covers Kicho-il-bo through Kicho-oh-bo, it covers all eight Palgue forms and all eight Taegeuk forms, then goes into Koryo, Keumgang, Taebaek, Pyongwon, etc... Personally I think it is way to much. Twenty two forms before black belt! I see no point in it.

I have my own curriculum though. The form aspect follows:
White Belt - Kicho-il-bo
Yellow Belt - Taegeuk-il-Jang
Orange Belt - Taegeuk-yi-jang
Purple Belt - Taegeuk-sam-jang
Green Belt - Taegeuk-sah-jang
2nd Green Belt - Palgue-sah-jang (wanted to include one palgue for tradition)
Blue Belt - Taegeuk-oh-jang
2nd Blue Belt - Taegeuk-yook-jang
Red Belt - Taegeuk-chil-jang
2nd Red Belt - Taegeuk-pal-jang

For me less in more. I believe in simplifying things as much as you feel you should, and distilling what is taught rather than watering it down.


That is a lot of forms. We teach kicho yi and sam bo, but they aren't required for tests, its just something to do instead of basic motions sweatdrop

I always go to tournaments and you can find 5 people all the same rank doing a different form from a different series. Its intense... Our 1st gups learn koryo for their black belt test.


that's a little different than how our forms system is ours goes as follows:

white - tae guek il jang
yellow - palgwe il jang
orange - tae guek e jang
orange striped - palgwe e jang
purple - tae guek sam jang
purple striped - palgwe sam jang
green - tae guek sa jang
green striped - palgwe sa jang
blue - tae guek oh jang
blue striped - palgwe oh jang
brown - tae guek yuk jang
brown striped - palgwe yuk jang
red - tae guek chil jang
red striped - palgwe chil jang
red/black - tae guek/palgwe pal jang
1st dan - koryo
2nd dan - keumkang
3rd dan - taebaek
and so on and so forth. that's all i know is up to there. but at my rank so far i have memorized i believe it's all 18 forms that i should know from white belt up to my current rank as 2nd dan black belt. what is kicho il bo?? i've never heard of that name for a form before.
I like the palgwe forms, but I preffer the Taegeuk forms. I feel like they are structured better.
It is always interesting to see other forms series' at tournaments... I wish more competition was open like that. I will say though that the Taegeuk forms lack flash... But they were designed for learning, not showing off.

Kicho-il-bo is a very basic form taught at white belt at many Taekwondo schools in the U.S.. It was originally a Shotokan Karate form. It consists of only front stance, with nothing but low blocks and middle punches. Actually, I intend to teach the form with walking stances rather than front stances so that it flows better into Taegeuk-il-jang.
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I like kicho il bo. I was gone for 4 yrs and when I came back it was the only form I could do straight thru no problem. The palgwe series looks fun because it's different, but I've never gone anywhere that used it... and then there are the forms that just look crazy and no one seems to know what they are but the one school that does them...

Taeguek forms aren't meant to look pretty except for 4 and 7, and maybe the end of 5. They aren't that graceful, like you said, they just teach movements together.
right. i believe the only forms that are suppose to be flashy especially at tournaments are forms that are created. i have myself created a poomsae and a jang bong form and both are awesome. i can't wait for my next tournament to compete with them.
Forms are about more than learning technique. They teach a variety of turning and stepping motions, and develop focus, control, and balance. All of that helps in a fight, whether or not one even uses the techniques of the forms. I find that is very often ignored when people are criticizing form training.

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