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Karl_Krebs
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i'm just curious but am i the only one who despises that people call things like XMA and these 'styles' that all emphasize flash and gaudy showmanship martial arts? there's nothing martial about them and imho give all traditional martial arts a bad name.
I would not say that I despise XMA. Its just not for me. XMA does take skill and while I can easly throw guys who weigh 250 pound I can't do double back flip into a kick so who am I to critize somthing I am incapable of doing on the basis of skill. Another reason I am not so distanefull of it is beause it hasn't leaked into my style. I have yet to see XMA Judo. From what I cant tell not alot of people have bad sterotypes of judo.
Now if i did Full contact old style Taekwondo and people keept asking me to do a flip I might grow to resent it.
i don't care how much skill it takes to do a 540 flippy kick, but not only is it XMA (who at least states openly what they teach isn't meant to be used in a real fight) i mean the places that teach a 'traditional' style but it's all flash is what really annoys me.

a while back i participated in a state wide tournament point sparring and kata. i was asked to sit in as a substitute judge for the kata portion, and some of the weapons kata i saw was just kids twirling a shiny bo staff as fast as they possibly could. teaching that kind of stuff and telling some one that it could save them in a fight is what pisses me off, and then the stupidity of the people who believe it. ( sorry but you'd have to be utterly niave and ignorant to believe that. (why pay to spin a stick. i was doing that as a little kid playing power rangers)
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i'm just curious but am i the only one who despises that people call things like XMA and these 'styles' that all emphasize flash and gaudy showmanship martial arts? there's nothing martial about them and imho give all traditional martial arts a bad name.



I don't despise them, they're very entertaining. They deal with the entertainment side of the martial arts, much likes the Shaolin monks and their tricks.
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I am not so distanefull of it is beause it hasn't leaked into my style. I have yet to see XMA Judo. From what I cant tell not alot of people have bad sterotypes of judo.


That got me thinking about my art...XMA aikido. The attackers do flips and tricks in midair when the aikidoka toss them around. razz
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I am not so distanefull of it is beause it hasn't leaked into my style. I have yet to see XMA Judo. From what I cant tell not alot of people have bad sterotypes of judo.


That got me thinking about my art...XMA aikido. The attackers do flips and tricks in midair when the aikidoka toss them around. razz
I haven't had much experince with aikido. Went to a 2 hour seminar on it but it wasn't for me.
i just began shotokan and i really like bu ive been thinking of adding judo to the mix should i wait until i have a more experience with shotokan or should i just try them both?
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i just began shotokan and i really like bu ive been thinking of adding judo to the mix should i wait until i have a more experience with shotokan or should i just try them both?
my personal advice is if you enjoy shotokan (and they're teaching for more than just point sparring type BS) stick with it for at least a year before trying to start a second art. 1 year is not that long to study a traditional art like shotokan or judo, and 3yrs before cross training would be better, but i advise a 1yr minimum in a single art.
Speaking of judo, I don't suppose anyone has been keeping abreast of the olympics at all? I caught a bit of the women's finals and I have to say the matches were quite impressive to watch.

I of course don't speak as someone that has much experience with the art, just a few classes when I was quite little. Somehow I feel I wouldn't mind poking my toe in a grappling art again to counterbalance the striking.

A week to go for the tae kwon do, looking forward to watching a bit, even if its a different style to what I practice razz
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Speaking of judo, I don't suppose anyone has been keeping abreast of the olympics at all? I caught a bit of the women's finals and I have to say the matches were quite impressive to watch.

I of course don't speak as someone that has much experience with the art, just a few classes when I was quite little. Somehow I feel I wouldn't mind poking my toe in a grappling art again to counterbalance the striking.

A week to go for the tae kwon do, looking forward to watching a bit, even if its a different style to what I practice razz
I have watched every match and I must say I am a happy camper. Not to mention Us finally has its first Gold medal in judo!
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i just began shotokan and i really like bu ive been thinking of adding judo to the mix should i wait until i have a more experience with shotokan or should i just try them both?


I read in Black Belt magazine one instructor said it's best to be at least 2nd degree black belt in your chosen art first before cross-training. He advised to get a strong knowledge and background first before branching out to others styles.
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I have watched every match and I must say I am a happy camper. Not to mention Us finally has its first Gold medal in judo!

Yeah I was very interested to see how that final between Kayla Harrison and Gemma Gibbons panned out. The BBC was showing the women's matches because they had a stake in the UK athelete coming through. Both artists showed immense skill in the semi-finals against their respective opponents, so I don't think you could have had a more deserving match-up in the final there.
Gemma beat some supposedly very impression opponents but ended up just getting out-foxed by Kayla in the last match. I wouldn't argue the toss with the results though.

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I read in Black Belt magazine one instructor said it's best to be at least 2nd degree black belt in your chosen art first before cross-training. He advised to get a strong knowledge and background first before branching out to others styles.

As a matter of interest was he referring to cross-training in general or across two similiarly focussed arts.

The reason I ask is because it would seem to me that two similiar striking arts have the capacity to confuse you at an early stage a lot more than two arts which have quite different focus.

I don't speak from experience per say, merely from observing the other clubs at our university. For example our University offers ITF Tae kwon do, Shotokan karate, shaolin kung fu and Lau Gar kick boxing. When I was watching the shaolin club train I noticed that they effectively have many of the same "stock" stances that tae kwon do does: horse/sitting stances, lunge/forward/walking stances, back/L-stances etc. However obviously there are many minute differences across the arts.

There is a fella in our TKD class and he is also a member of the karate club, often I find he's having to be corrected on details in his stances. For example he found a tkd L-stance rather difficult and kept slipping into a shotokan back stance.

Basically I would think as you go through gradings, those minute details could count as strikes against you as you try to move forward. Arguably though at lot of these details are different arts quibbling over minutiae and what really matters is the fundamental concepts behind the movements, but that wont change the fact that you could potentially be doing your head in.

Conversely I would think that something like Judo and Karate focus (especially at the early to intermediate stage) on such wildly different areas that the potential confusion wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue.

Just a thought or two on the matter. Like I said I'm toying with the idea of trying Judo again, so maybe I'll find out for myself. It could be the case that it'll be an example of trying to learn French and Mandarin at the same time, potentially doing your head in XP
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I read in Black Belt magazine one instructor said it's best to be at least 2nd degree black belt in your chosen art first before cross-training. He advised to get a strong knowledge and background first before branching out to others styles.

As a matter of interest was he referring to cross-training in general or across two similiarly focussed arts.


Cross training in general.

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