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CAST1EL
GOODBYE STRANGER
IT'S BEEN NICE
JUST SHOOT ME
IN THE ******** FACE

it's been at least two hours since I watched it (For the third time) and it gets WORSE EVERY TIME AND MY HEART IS TORN ASUNDER.


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It was a sad episode, mhm.
Them words, them words he used towards Castiel.
Ugh.

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Oh GOD!

Those words burning_eyes

My mouth was agape like, that whole freaking episode. Same with Sacrifice.

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CAST1EL
GOODBYE STRANGER
IT'S BEEN NICE
JUST SHOOT ME
IN THE ******** FACE

it's been at least two hours since I watched it (For the third time) and it gets WORSE EVERY TIME AND MY HEART IS TORN ASUNDER.


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It was a sad episode, mhm.
Them words, them words he used towards Castiel.
Ugh.

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Oh GOD!

Those words burning_eyes

My mouth was agape like, that whole freaking episode. Same with Sacrifice.


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IT WAS SO MEANINGFUL, AND HEARTWRENCHING. Like, he was all "I need you Cas". And then the bit about being family. I wanted to die right there. It was enough to make Castiel stop AND THAT is what it's all about.

And now I go back to the bloopers and remember "Your my baby daddy" lmao!

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ScorpionsApprentice
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CAST1EL
GOODBYE STRANGER
IT'S BEEN NICE
JUST SHOOT ME
IN THE ******** FACE

it's been at least two hours since I watched it (For the third time) and it gets WORSE EVERY TIME AND MY HEART IS TORN ASUNDER.


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It was a sad episode, mhm.
Them words, them words he used towards Castiel.
Ugh.

~~~

HDMI

Oh GOD!

Those words burning_eyes

My mouth was agape like, that whole freaking episode. Same with Sacrifice.


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IT WAS SO MEANINGFUL, AND HEARTWRENCHING. Like, he was all "I need you Cas". And then the bit about being family. I wanted to die right there. It was enough to make Castiel stop AND THAT is what it's all about.

And now I go back to the bloopers and remember "Your my baby daddy" lmao!

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I know right?! It was probably one of the most heart-felt moments in Supernatural. FLOWING OUT THE a** WITH FEELS! My heart broke and swelled all at the same time, because I don't think I've EVER seen Dean that raw in front of anyone else before. I mean, when does he ever admit to needing anyone, except for Sam when he absolutely has to? Crazy. That IS what it's all about; I just wish Dean knew he was the one who made Castiel stop and pulled him out of the darkness, but he never will because Supernatural is ******** cruel like that gonk

And don't forget "Stop pulling my face toward your crotch! STOP IT!" rofl

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ScorpionsApprentice
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ScorpionsApprentice
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CAST1EL
GOODBYE STRANGER
IT'S BEEN NICE
JUST SHOOT ME
IN THE ******** FACE

it's been at least two hours since I watched it (For the third time) and it gets WORSE EVERY TIME AND MY HEART IS TORN ASUNDER.


HDMI

~~~
It was a sad episode, mhm.
Them words, them words he used towards Castiel.
Ugh.

~~~

HDMI

Oh GOD!

Those words burning_eyes

My mouth was agape like, that whole freaking episode. Same with Sacrifice.


HDMI

~~~
IT WAS SO MEANINGFUL, AND HEARTWRENCHING. Like, he was all "I need you Cas". And then the bit about being family. I wanted to die right there. It was enough to make Castiel stop AND THAT is what it's all about.

And now I go back to the bloopers and remember "Your my baby daddy" lmao!

~~~

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I know right?! It was probably one of the most heart-felt moments in Supernatural. FLOWING OUT THE a** WITH FEELS! My heart broke and swelled all at the same time, because I don't think I've EVER seen Dean that raw in front of anyone else before. I mean, when does he ever admit to needing anyone, except for Sam when he absolutely has to? Crazy. That IS what it's all about; I just wish Dean knew he was the one who made Castiel stop and pulled him out of the darkness, but he never will because Supernatural is ******** cruel like that gonk

And don't forget "Stop pulling my face toward your crotch! STOP IT!" rofl


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I know almost never. In that moment it was just like, love basically. Not human human love obviously but, family love you know. Omg. Mm.. heart

And yeah I totally forgot about that part. rofl rofl

Oh, what a great cast.

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One of the only times Cas actually shows fear
you know except for when he's cowering in the corner
is when he is faced with the thought of v****a
i can't stop laughing help
i'm talking about this:
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he's so scared
poor baby omg
i just wanna give him a hug jesus

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Betcha he'll be scared when he loses it too, but then he'll be a slick as an alley cat after that emotion_dealwithit

Most people are angry Cas is gonna lose his virginity this season because it's not Dean or whatever, but honestly...I kinda think it's a good thing. He's got to experience it to know what it's like, so he can decide if it's what he wants or not. And what if this is their way of really establishing his sexuality? Like, no Cas isn't fond of the ladies in hindsight. They're too...not Dean xp

Or maybe they'll chicken out and make him heterosexual.

OR maybe they'll establish him as bisexual. That would be cool, and would be a good lead up to establishing Dean as bisexual were they do fully go through with that. Ease people (nonbelievers) into it. Would kinda make sense with the whole angel thing and "not having a gender" originally, even though he's now definitely male...don't think any of us ever really saw him as genderless anyway.

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Lonely Saint

^ I did and do see him as genderless, and also asexual.

So I'm mighty ******** pissed off at this. The past couple months have been basically me trying to stop caring to the point I won't throw myself off a cliff when the episode airs.

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^ I did and do see him as genderless, and also asexual.

So I'm mighty ******** pissed off at this. The past couple months have been basically me trying to stop caring to the point I won't throw myself off a cliff when the episode airs.

Did you? That's cool. And I get it; that's what he was as an angel.

But he's not anymore confused He's human, and irrevocably a male because of it. Even if he's still him, that entity he was, was diminished into the hardware he's got, so that hardware is now going to have an effect on him, more so than it did when he was an angel and it was just "reacting" to sensory stimulus like the pizza man. Human impulses are a part of the baggage now, so he's bound to figure out what that means in all aspects, including sex. I dunno; I just get it. You have a week and a half left to get used to it though mrgreen I guess like 4 actual weeks before the episode of doom airs.

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^ I did and do see him as genderless, and also asexual.

So I'm mighty ******** pissed off at this. The past couple months have been basically me trying to stop caring to the point I won't throw myself off a cliff when the episode airs.

Did you? That's cool. And I get it; that's what he was as an angel.

But he's not anymore confused He's human, and irrevocably a male because of it. Even if he's still him, that entity he was, was diminished into the hardware he's got, so that hardware is now going to have an effect on him, more so than it did when he was an angel and it was just "reacting" to sensory stimulus like the pizza man. Human impulses are a part of the baggage now, so he's bound to figure out what that means in all aspects, including sex. I dunno; I just get it. You have a week and a half left to get used to it though mrgreen I guess like 4 actual weeks before the episode of doom airs.

This... is another thing I honestly don't like, because humanity isn't a state or a condition, it's a species. He won't be "human", because he's an angel. Like if you're a guy who gets turned into a giraffe you'll just be a guy stuck as a giraffe.
Clearly, this affects your needs, but I honestly find sexuality more a thing that comes from your persona than it comes from your reproductive system - angels were screwing left and right without falling first, Cas didn't want to. Why the hell would he suddenly want this now when he just cast every single angel out heaven, when killing a few already made him suicidal? Like what kind of a damn priority is that? Oh, hey, everything's going to hell and I'm the sole reason for that, but let's chase some tail while we're at it, because why not.

Seriously.

What the hell.


As you can see, my quest to not caring isn't going all too well.

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^ I did and do see him as genderless, and also asexual.

So I'm mighty ******** pissed off at this. The past couple months have been basically me trying to stop caring to the point I won't throw myself off a cliff when the episode airs.

Did you? That's cool. And I get it; that's what he was as an angel.

But he's not anymore confused He's human, and irrevocably a male because of it. Even if he's still him, that entity he was, was diminished into the hardware he's got, so that hardware is now going to have an effect on him, more so than it did when he was an angel and it was just "reacting" to sensory stimulus like the pizza man. Human impulses are a part of the baggage now, so he's bound to figure out what that means in all aspects, including sex. I dunno; I just get it. You have a week and a half left to get used to it though mrgreen I guess like 4 actual weeks before the episode of doom airs.

This... is another thing I honestly don't like, because humanity isn't a state or a condition, it's a species. He won't be "human", because he's an angel. Like if you're a guy who gets turned into a giraffe you'll just be a guy stuck as a giraffe.
Clearly, this affects your needs, but I honestly find sexuality more a thing that comes from your persona than it comes from your reproductive system - angels were screwing left and right without falling first, Cas didn't want to. Why the hell would he suddenly want this now when he just cast every single angel out heaven, when killing a few already made him suicidal? Like what kind of a damn priority is that? Oh, hey, everything's going to hell and I'm the sole reason for that, but let's chase some tail while we're at it, because why not.

Seriously.

What the hell.


As you can see, my quest to not caring isn't going all too well.

Um, yeah I see that lol. And I don't really think I can agree with you. The way you just explained yourself is kind of contradictory. If humanity were a state or condition, than a guy getting turned into a giraffe would equate just being a guy stuck as a giraffe. If humanity is considered a species, then if you get turned into a giraffe, you're a freaking giraffe and not a human anymore. Species is scientific, which equates to physiology and certain levels of chemistry that go along with it, like for humans a consciousness and free will from our instincts or for bees, dancing to communicate flower locations. If you're trying to say Castiel is still an angel, when PHYSICALLY he's a human, than you're defining the state of being an angel as something different than their physical traits as a species. If you wanna say they're different species, then Castiel is not an angel anymore. He's human. He no longer has any grace, he will age as a mortal, need to consume food, water, and air as a mortal, and he will die as a mortal.

That also begs the question then, that if a demon is cured of it's "demonic" illness and turned into a human, is it still a demon or a human? Do you know what I'm getting at? Being turned into a human changes things, for both angels and demons. Demons grow a consciousness, and angels expand on their feelings. As an angel, Castiel felt, but not to the extent that humans feel. It could be that tapping into the full scope of humanity sparked a curiosity in his libido that wasn't present there before. And, Castiel didn't show much of an interest in sex; that's not to say he wasn't interested at all. He did get a boner watching porn, and he was TERRIFIED of losing his virginity with a prostitute because he had no idea what he was doing or what to expect. That kinda shows he had an interest, it was just skewed toward the negative side. He said he "never had an occasion" to do the nasties when Dean ask, not that "I have no interest." If the prostitute hadn't flipped out, he may have lost his virginity a long time ago. Cas more than a lot of our favorite angels is more of a soldier, whereas our other rebels were definitely more hedonists than good lil' soldier Cas is. I see them all as having broken out of their shell, due to selfish desires and age, where Castiel had many other priorities than exploring what he wanted out of free will and his own feelings. Because he's a good soldier, he's always mission oriented and never gives himself time to enjoy anything. I've also always viewed Castiel as younger than the ones we've seen who have explored the more "sinful" side of humanity.

I also know that the woman is the aggressor when it comes to Castiel's sexual experience, so it could just be that. You don't know what you like until you try it, and Castiel has never tried anything. Could be that this woman just doesn't scare easily against his scared and awkward ways, and sex is actually a really good comfort mechanism. She may see how broken he is and take him to bed, and being so broken and none the wiser, Cas tries it out. He's really lost, hunted, and gonna be figuring s**t out on his own.

But that's just my schpeal. Like I said, I get it. And I respect that you're really angry by it lol. I can understand why it would be so frustrating to see the character you love change for no apparent reason. Cause I love Castiel too, but I'm just down with the whole "exploring his humanity" change I guess. And I also want to clarify that I do agree with sexuality being based on more than just your hardware lol. I didn't mean to sound so narrow-minded about the whole thing. Sorry, hope I made myself clear!

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I'm so ******** excited for season 9. Why did I not know about this thread? Oh yeah, maybe because I spend all my time on Tumblr and never come on Gaia anymore. sweatdrop I'm more comfortable here, though, like talking to people.

I'm pretty apprehensive about how they're going to treat Castiel's story. I've definitely got mixed feelings about his supposed love interest.

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Um, yeah I see that lol. And I don't really think I can agree with you. The way you just explained yourself is kind of contradictory. If humanity were a state or condition, than a guy getting turned into a giraffe would equate just being a guy stuck as a giraffe. If humanity is considered a species, then if you get turned into a giraffe, you're a freaking giraffe and not a human anymore. Species is scientific, which equates to physiology and certain levels of chemistry that go along with it, like for humans a consciousness and free will from our instincts or for bees, dancing to communicate flower locations. If you're trying to say Castiel is still an angel, when PHYSICALLY he's a human, than you're defining the state of being an angel as something different than their physical traits as a species. If you wanna say they're different species, then Castiel is not an angel anymore. He's human. He no longer has any grace, he will age as a mortal, need to consume food, water, and air as a mortal, and he will die as a mortal.

That also begs the question then, that if a demon is cured of it's "demonic" illness and turned into a human, is it still a demon or a human? Do you know what I'm getting at? Being turned into a human changes things, for both angels and demons. Demons grow a consciousness, and angels expand on their feelings. As an angel, Castiel felt, but not to the extent that humans feel. It could be that tapping into the full scope of humanity sparked a curiosity in his libido that wasn't present there before. And, Castiel didn't show much of an interest in sex; that's not to say he wasn't interested at all. He did get a boner watching porn, and he was TERRIFIED of losing his virginity with a prostitute because he had no idea what he was doing or what to expect. That kinda shows he had an interest, it was just skewed toward the negative side. He said he "never had an occasion" to do the nasties when Dean ask, not that "I have no interest." If the prostitute hadn't flipped out, he may have lost his virginity a long time ago. Cas more than a lot of our favorite angels is more of a soldier, whereas our other rebels were definitely more hedonists than good lil' soldier Cas is. I see them all as having broken out of their shell, due to selfish desires and age, where Castiel had many other priorities than exploring what he wanted out of free will and his own feelings. Because he's a good soldier, he's always mission oriented and never gives himself time to enjoy anything. I've also always viewed Castiel as younger than the ones we've seen who have explored the more "sinful" side of humanity.

I also know that the woman is the aggressor when it comes to Castiel's sexual experience, so it could just be that. You don't know what you like until you try it, and Castiel has never tried anything. Could be that this woman just doesn't scare easily against his scared and awkward ways, and sex is actually a really good comfort mechanism. She may see how broken he is and take him to bed, and being so broken and none the wiser, Cas tries it out. He's really lost, hunted, and gonna be figuring s**t out on his own.

But that's just my schpeal. Like I said, I get it. And I respect that you're really angry by it lol. I can understand why it would be so frustrating to see the character you love change for no apparent reason. Cause I love Castiel too, but I'm just down with the whole "exploring his humanity" change I guess. And I also want to clarify that I do agree with sexuality being based on more than just your hardware lol. I didn't mean to sound so narrow-minded about the whole thing. Sorry, hope I made myself clear!

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Basically, I think a creature's soul has a "true form". Which is why a ghost or an afterlife form of a person turns up looking like the person, for example. Castiel, with his grace taken, is still a fallen angel. He's bound to a human form in the lack of another to return to but he's never a human, because to be a human, you're born to be one, and even this doesn't work if you were formerly something else (Anna, for example, was genuinely born into her own body and still never became a human per se, despite experiencing a life as one, because in the end she still recalled her true self and even as a child protested to the idea of her father being her real father, therefore living in a conflict against her assumed new form and identity).

Demons are mutilated human souls (and fallen angels, actually, lorewise at least), so a cured demon has been, indeed, cured, and becomes what it actually was before. The state of being a demon is unnatural to a human, just like the state of being "human" is unnatural to an angel.

If it was dependent on what kind of a meatsuit you walk in, then an angel assuming the form of a human would automatically become human, and a skinwalker taking the form of a dog would stop being a skinwalker and become a dog instead, when in truth they still function with the mindset of a human. Castiel's main flaw in the sense of becoming human is that no human will ever live up to be older than life itself. Castiel already is. He cannot be a human when his whole existence is something that is completely different from that of a human. He wasn't created as a human, therefore, he will never truly be one, and his former life and experiences as well as the fact that he is an angel will fundamentally affect the way he experiences "humanity".
He can live and die as jimmyflesh but inside, he's still an angel.

Stretching from that, I also believe humans that become monsters are monsters by state or affliction, not design. Lorewise, purgatory is a place of purification between heaven and hell and once a soul has been purified, it moves on to the final destination. Therefore, I believe that when a monster dies in purgatory, it ceases to be a monster and comes out as a purified human soul. This would fit the lore on purgatory, but whether or not SPN agrees with me, we'll probably never know. There are true monsters such as the leviathans and alphas which were created as monsters and have never been human, and they're generally pretty impossible to ice, so who knows what the hell happens to them if they die. Maybe they can't die in purgatory. Maybe they'll just pop up again like souls in hell do after every time they die. Which would mean d**k Roman's in there still, somewhere. Hmm. I don't know, I'm not God, this is one of those questions again. 8|

ANYWAY

Angels don't actually get feelings when they enter vessels. This has been Castiel's "flaw", the "crack in his chassis", something that isn't supposed to happen, because angels don't feel. The other angels loved to blame Dean for this ("When he first laid a hand on you in hell, he was lost", "He has this weakness: he likes you." wink , but in truth as Naomi implied, it's always been just who Castiel is. Like Samandriel said: "Too much heart was always Castiel's problem."
He's not like the other angels, but he isn't like humans either.

Boners are physical reactions to stimuli and have very little to do with actual sexual interest. The scene with the prostitutes is interesting, I'll never be able to figure out if it was the sex that scared him or if it was the thought of having sex with someone who might not want to have sex with him, which would probably be akin to violence for him. Probably the latter.

I don't know what Castiel's age is, but considering he was in the lead of a garrison, is a seraph - the highest rank an angel can be without being an archangel - and was respected enough to make other angels listen to him when he flatout suggested they should break free from what comes most naturally to them, obedience, and think for themselves, I'd imagine he isn't a fledgling by any stretch. He was sent to hell to fight an extremely important war and came out on top of it as the one who brought Dean back - which, by the way, is funny because he'd already defied orders before. Why they sent down a soldier who could not be trusted on a mission of this scale is... baffling. I guess he was fresh out of Bible Camp and supposedly functioning, and because the mission didn't involve slaughtering innocent babies, he had little reason to flip again.

Okay, ahem, I'm way offtopic again.

I can get social pressure, though. Everyone and their dog (read: his older siblings from Anna to Gabriel and his best buddy Balthazar, and his primary human example, Dean) was all over sex. Therefore, I can totally get him falling and, stuck as a confused bag of guts and poop, follows example.

I just don't think it's an interest for him. Even with Meg, he played along to a point but then came the major, MAJOR hesitation. I think he may have tried it out if the chance was actually presented, but this whole subject still ******** irks me, mainly because there are so many people around me just parading that YAY HE FINALLY BECOMES HUMAN AND HAS REAL HUMAN'S NEEDS. Like ******** you people I am human too, I was BORN as one, and I don't experience sexual attraction, go away. I'm real tired of being dehumanized and this isn't helping, so I'm angry. Yes. Castiel's basically been THE reflection point for me: his character is so close to how I feel in society, out of place, and the lack of sexual interest was something I have literally never before seen in a character on any show, anywhere, established like it was for Castiel. A character who had the opportunity but did not feel it was a priority and never stepped up to take it because there were so many more important things to do, you just never see that anywhere. And now I'm back to being a freak again. Feels nice, not.
So yeah, I'm biased. Way, way biased, and also very literal with my lore.

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I'm so ******** excited for season 9. Why did I not know about this thread? Oh yeah, maybe because I spend all my time on Tumblr and never come on Gaia anymore. sweatdrop I'm more comfortable here, though, like talking to people.

I'm pretty apprehensive about how they're going to treat Castiel's story. I've definitely got mixed feelings about his supposed love interest.


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Hey remember me? I still had to watch Season 8 a little bit ago. But guess what, I finished Season 8 in like 3 days! So I'm all caught up!

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