Xbox one facts

[MarkM117]

RedTwinBlade

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MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

You're forgetting this fact too.
There'll always be people who like being screwed in the a** by big corporations, it's nice to see who does.

so by the time i'm finally able to afford one i can play it in my area? great! blaugh

Depends. Microsoft says that it'll be available to the entire country in 2015. That's two years to cover 29 states unable to play it. Just shady business all around, and their reasoning is (LITERALLY) they don't want overweight people playing their console.

as well as demand, the amount of complaints received from each state, internet quality, amount of Xbox Live users, quality of life and more.
do i care? no. i'll eventually be getting it and nothing sony does will ever convince me to get a ps4 any time soon. besides taht same article says that the date is not final. so it may be sooner if enough people say something instead of whining like children

You find it to be OK if millions of people are excluded because some corporate employees feel that the market may not be perfect? Frankly, the idea that they can just say 'sorry dudes, but we decided that were you to buy our console, it wouldn't work for an unspecified amount of time, meaning you've wasted your money' is terrible business practice, and purchasing the XB1 is a form of apathy on the part of the consumer, not realizing that microsoft is not looking to make things better for you. They didn't look to improve the graphics greatly, they don't allow you to play outside of your region, which is a giant ******** you to our armed forces, and the need to check in screws over the people who just want to play single player. You can't just look at this from a 'well it doesn't effect me' perspective, this is microsoft telling the entire world that they will make a s**t sandwich, and if the world purchases an XB1 they'd better eat the ******** sandwich.

personally i think they should delay it a year at most. take some time to fix the services but that won't fly too well.and graphically it's not to far different than the ps4. remember how different the 360 and ps3 were graphically? yet it still sold. and the 30 second check in is not that bad. so you lose 30 seconds! who plays a 24 solid hours? no lifers.

[Player Kite]

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

You're forgetting this fact too.
There'll always be people who like being screwed in the a** by big corporations, it's nice to see who does.

so by the time i'm finally able to afford one i can play it in my area? great! blaugh

Depends. Microsoft says that it'll be available to the entire country in 2015. That's two years to cover 29 states unable to play it. Just shady business all around, and their reasoning is (LITERALLY) they don't want overweight people playing their console.

as well as demand, the amount of complaints received from each state, internet quality, amount of Xbox Live users, quality of life and more.
do i care? no. i'll eventually be getting it and nothing sony does will ever convince me to get a ps4 any time soon. besides taht same article says that the date is not final. so it may be sooner if enough people say something instead of whining like children

You find it to be OK if millions of people are excluded because some corporate employees feel that the market may not be perfect? Frankly, the idea that they can just say 'sorry dudes, but we decided that were you to buy our console, it wouldn't work for an unspecified amount of time, meaning you've wasted your money' is terrible business practice, and purchasing the XB1 is a form of apathy on the part of the consumer, not realizing that microsoft is not looking to make things better for you. They didn't look to improve the graphics greatly, they don't allow you to play outside of your region, which is a giant ******** you to our armed forces, and the need to check in screws over the people who just want to play single player. You can't just look at this from a 'well it doesn't effect me' perspective, this is microsoft telling the entire world that they will make a s**t sandwich, and if the world purchases an XB1 they'd better eat the ******** sandwich.

personally i think they should delay it a year at most. take some time to fix the services but that won't fly too well.

If they were to take a year, to get their fanbase back, they'd have to literally gut the thing and rebuild it. The kinect bit will always be a problem, along with the used games bit and licensing, the check in too, there'd need to be offline gaming on it as well. Microsoft really did shoot themselves in both feet, and all other parts of the body this time around. The 360's going to probably greatly flourish.

[Haern]

You're an Xbox d**k rider, and it doesn't change the fact that you can't do s**t with the Xbox One.

And WOW, PS4 gamers have to pay!? MAAAN that's ROUGH. Compared to the SHITTY list of "benefits" Xbox has!!

[Pretty Renegade]

MarkM117

graphically they wont be too different only load times will have a major difference (surprise! they're both going to be using blu-ray! which means only slight graphical time differences!. i've compared versions of games between the 360 and ps3. most times on the 360 you may beat us in graphics but we get better lighting, and better fps(frames per second in case you're confused). load times are milliseconds different if you have the game installed or not)

Actually, the xBox360 has graphics of 1080, and the PS3 had graphics of 720. n u n

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[Mayor Gravity]

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

MarkM117

RedTwinBlade

You're forgetting this fact too.
There'll always be people who like being screwed in the a** by big corporations, it's nice to see who does.

so by the time i'm finally able to afford one i can play it in my area? great! blaugh

Depends. Microsoft says that it'll be available to the entire country in 2015. That's two years to cover 29 states unable to play it. Just shady business all around, and their reasoning is (LITERALLY) they don't want overweight people playing their console.

as well as demand, the amount of complaints received from each state, internet quality, amount of Xbox Live users, quality of life and more.
do i care? no. i'll eventually be getting it and nothing sony does will ever convince me to get a ps4 any time soon. besides taht same article says that the date is not final. so it may be sooner if enough people say something instead of whining like children

You find it to be OK if millions of people are excluded because some corporate employees feel that the market may not be perfect? Frankly, the idea that they can just say 'sorry dudes, but we decided that were you to buy our console, it wouldn't work for an unspecified amount of time, meaning you've wasted your money' is terrible business practice, and purchasing the XB1 is a form of apathy on the part of the consumer, not realizing that microsoft is not looking to make things better for you. They didn't look to improve the graphics greatly, they don't allow you to play outside of your region, which is a giant ******** you to our armed forces, and the need to check in screws over the people who just want to play single player. You can't just look at this from a 'well it doesn't effect me' perspective, this is microsoft telling the entire world that they will make a s**t sandwich, and if the world purchases an XB1 they'd better eat the ******** sandwich.

personally i think they should delay it a year at most. take some time to fix the services but that won't fly too well.and graphically it's not to far different than the ps4. remember how different the 360 and ps3 were graphically? yet it still sold. and the 30 second check in is not that bad. so you lose 30 seconds! who plays a 24 solid hours? no lifers.

They're not going to fix anything, they still think it's a good idea to release it the way it is.

[Shanna66]

I think I will probably stick to my wiiU, get a ps4, and keep using my pc. sure it will suck to not have all the major systems, but so far I have not seen anything that makes me want to get an xbox1. nearly all games come out on every system now, and the ones that don't usually can still be found on steam even if you have to wait a little longer.

plus on steam, ps, and wii I can still play nearly all my games offline if I want to mrgreen

[Mandybun]

Now, I don't know how the internet bills for US citizens work, but I personally only have a 80 GB of data a month for my home and honestly paying $500+ tax for a system that needs so many online check ins just to play a single player game seems to be more hassle than it's worth just isn't worth my time.

I'll just stick with nintendo systems, because at least those don't cost an arm and a leg, and they put out games I generally enjoy instead of a mountain of sports games.

[Maikus]

This thread is so pointless. The fact is that PS4 won over the audience at E3. The Xbox One just isn't appealing to majority of the public. Sure they focused on how the family interacts with the system, but they didn't focus enough on the main reason why people buy gaming consoles, gaming DUH!

Now your last 2 paragraphs are completely irrelevant to anything really. The reason why they don't care if your pirate their games (which this is something I highly doubt, I'm sure they care to a certain extent) is because Playstation knows that they will retake the gaming console thrown in 2014. They will be and already make so much money, it doesn't really matter if some people pirate their games. Very few people pirate console games to begin with.

[black_wing_angel]

MarkM117

LB-UK

Even if your points are valid and not just rambling from an xbox fanboy, it still doesn't change the fact that the Xbone is an overpriced box with inferior hardware to the PS4 and gimmicky features most gamers don't care about (saying "xbox, menu" instead of pushing one button? Really? That's innovation? neutral ).

Also, I think limiting which regions can actually play the Xbone on launch is actually the dumbest thing they've done yet. They're practically telling millions of people worldwide to ******** off and buy a PS4.

the kinect can easily be turned off (like anyone towards an attitude like yours)

But you still have to pay for obtaining it, whether you want to use it, or not. That's....not a very good marketing strategy.

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graphically they wont be too different only load times will have a major difference (surprise! they're both going to be using blu-ray! which means only slight graphical time differences!. i've compared versions of games between the 360 and ps3. most times on the 360 you may beat us in graphics but we get better lighting, and better fps(frames per second in case you're confused). load times are milliseconds different if you have the game installed or not)

Except that.....nobody's complaining about graphics...

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besides, who cares about hardware? playing a game for graphics is like watching porn for the story. I don't care why debbie wants to go to dallas. i'm just trying to get off

So, if you recognize that hardware is not the issue, then why bring it up?

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paying for live gives us more protection than the psn gets.

No, it really doesn't. It just means you have a financial investment, that you can lose.

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remember the two months xbox live was down and our credit cards were stolen? neither do i.

That's because the hackers all had Live accounts. It's not that Live CAN'T be hacked. It's just that nobody has the inclination to.

In reality, it's no safer. Just more expensive. You're paying for a false sense of security.

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accounts may be stolen but that can't be helped no matter how hard you try. ask sony

Ok....So your argument is "We can still get hacked....but at least we're PAYING for it!"

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the only reasons you wouldn't get ps+ to play online with friends is because you have none or have none that are worth playing with.

That's right. It's because you're a Forever Alone guy, and not, perchance. someone who doesn't HAVE to play "online" to play with your friends. It's not like we might have actual regionally close friends that we can play "old school" with, without the need for an ethernet cable....

Yeah...you know those little lights at the top of the controllers? The ones with the 1, 2, 3, and 4 on them? Whadda ya suppose those are for?

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last i checked MMOs have pay-to-play and seem to do just fine

Not all of them are pay to play. And not all of them "do just fine".

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Sony has practically stated that they don't care if you pirate their games thus losing them mass amounts of money forcing them to go broke

And you just proved that you know nothing about economics. Nice.

So tell me, then: If you believe that bullshit, then why hasn't EVERY SINGLE MOTOR VEHICLE PRODUCER ON THE PLANET, gone under?

If I buy a car for full price, and then after a few years, sell it to someone else....am I really screwing Ford? No. They got the full price of the vehicle, the first time it was sold. The only person being screwed in ANY sense, is the seller. And even that, is only in the sense that he is getting less for it, than he paid for it. He's actually taking a loss on the investment. The producer, however, suffers no loss of profit, from the transaction.

Very few producers are ever given payment for their products, beyond the initial retail sale, unless their products are strictly rental only. Yet they all seem to survive comfortably.

You're just buying into Microsoft's bullshit sob-story, while they sucker you out of every penny they can whittle out of your pocket. And that makes you look really silly.

Seriously. Owning anything Xbox related, is the equivalent of setting fire to a sack of money

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the regions they aren't releasing in are also regions where either they have their own internet that is policed by the government and thus limiting them massively (china, japan)

their internet is either dial-up, cable, DSL, FTTH, mobile, wireless and satellite(russia)

or limits such as the number of ISP subscriptions, overall number of hosts, IXP-traffic, and overall available bandwidth are so low they most likely wouldn't be able to connect or afford to anyway(africa).

And that makes it ok?

I'd say that doesn't serve as much as an "acceptable excuse", as a "reason why someone should be fired."

[PandaMan51]

Just to put my input in this. If you look at this economicaly Microsoft is doing this right. If things are as is Xbox games wont be the same price as PS games. Economically speaking should drop game price about 15 maybe 20 bucks as for PS will bump up again.

[MarkM117]

Pretty Renegade

MarkM117

graphically they wont be too different only load times will have a major difference (surprise! they're both going to be using blu-ray! which means only slight graphical time differences!. i've compared versions of games between the 360 and ps3. most times on the 360 you may beat us in graphics but we get better lighting, and better fps(frames per second in case you're confused). load times are milliseconds different if you have the game installed or not)

Actually, the xBox360 has graphics of 1080, and the PS3 had graphics of 720. n u n

that's resolution. graphical processing capability they surpass us a bit

[MarkM117]

black_wing_angel

MarkM117

LB-UK

Even if your points are valid and not just rambling from an xbox fanboy, it still doesn't change the fact that the Xbone is an overpriced box with inferior hardware to the PS4 and gimmicky features most gamers don't care about (saying "xbox, menu" instead of pushing one button? Really? That's innovation? neutral ).

Also, I think limiting which regions can actually play the Xbone on launch is actually the dumbest thing they've done yet. They're practically telling millions of people worldwide to ******** off and buy a PS4.

the kinect can easily be turned off (like anyone towards an attitude like yours)

But you still have to pay for obtaining it, whether you want to use it, or not. That's....not a very good marketing strategy.

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graphically they wont be too different only load times will have a major difference (surprise! they're both going to be using blu-ray! which means only slight graphical time differences!. i've compared versions of games between the 360 and ps3. most times on the 360 you may beat us in graphics but we get better lighting, and better fps(frames per second in case you're confused). load times are milliseconds different if you have the game installed or not)

Except that.....nobody's complaining about graphics...

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besides, who cares about hardware? playing a game for graphics is like watching porn for the story. I don't care why debbie wants to go to dallas. i'm just trying to get off

So, if you recognize that hardware is not the issue, then why bring it up?

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paying for live gives us more protection than the psn gets.

No, it really doesn't. It just means you have a financial investment, that you can lose.

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remember the two months xbox live was down and our credit cards were stolen? neither do i.

That's because the hackers all had Live accounts. It's not that Live CAN'T be hacked. It's just that nobody has the inclination to.

In reality, it's no safer. Just more expensive. You're paying for a false sense of security.

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accounts may be stolen but that can't be helped no matter how hard you try. ask sony

Ok....So your argument is "We can still get hacked....but at least we're PAYING for it!"

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the only reasons you wouldn't get ps+ to play online with friends is because you have none or have none that are worth playing with.

That's right. It's because you're a Forever Alone guy, and not, perchance. someone who doesn't HAVE to play "online" to play with your friends. It's not like we might have actual regionally close friends that we can play "old school" with, without the need for an ethernet cable....

Yeah...you know those little lights at the top of the controllers? The ones with the 1, 2, 3, and 4 on them? Whadda ya suppose those are for?

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last i checked MMOs have pay-to-play and seem to do just fine

Not all of them are pay to play. And not all of them "do just fine".

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Sony has practically stated that they don't care if you pirate their games thus losing them mass amounts of money forcing them to go broke

And you just proved that you know nothing about economics. Nice.

So tell me, then: If you believe that bullshit, then why hasn't EVERY SINGLE MOTOR VEHICLE PRODUCER ON THE PLANET, gone under?

If I buy a car for full price, and then after a few years, sell it to someone else....am I really screwing Ford? No. They got the full price of the vehicle, the first time it was sold. The only person being screwed in ANY sense, is the seller. And even that, is only in the sense that he is getting less for it, than he paid for it. He's actually taking a loss on the investment. The producer, however, suffers no loss of profit, from the transaction.

Very few producers are ever given payment for their products, beyond the initial retail sale, unless their products are strictly rental only. Yet they all seem to survive comfortably.

You're just buying into Microsoft's bullshit sob-story, while they sucker you out of every penny they can whittle out of your pocket. And that makes you look really silly.

Seriously. Owning anything Xbox related, is the equivalent of setting fire to a sack of money

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the regions they aren't releasing in are also regions where either they have their own internet that is policed by the government and thus limiting them massively (china, japan)

their internet is either dial-up, cable, DSL, FTTH, mobile, wireless and satellite(russia)

or limits such as the number of ISP subscriptions, overall number of hosts, IXP-traffic, and overall available bandwidth are so low they most likely wouldn't be able to connect or afford to anyway(africa).

And that makes it ok?

I'd say that doesn't serve as much as an "acceptable excuse", as a "reason why someone should be fired."

1. the kinect is built in because the main UI is built around it. the price is based around the fact you can do more than just games on the One.

2. go look at some of the other ps4 lovers threads and you'll see some morons praising its slight graphical superiority. that is why i bring it up

3. until you prove that the people who have been legitimately hacked, and not the 12 year olds who fell for phishing scams, on Live outnumbers the 77 million hacked on psn (and prove the hackers were Live account owners(not some random who says they are to seem cool)) your point is moot

4.30 seconds offline to check for any new purchases that may have occurred while we were offline?! OH NO!
you mean when i go to a buds house with my controller and recover my account i can't play his games with him like they say i can? for free?

those lights on our guide button? that tells you what player that controller is!

5. free to play, pay to win.- microtransactions

6. say you run a company that makes this amazing car. you want to sell all of them and make a profit. oh? what is this? someone bought one! oh joy! but wait! he's copying it and giving it away free! all those other cars you spent money making aren't getting sold! you're not making a profit! you can't pay all the people who worked so hard on that car!

the fees on used games are up to the publishers, who won't do it as they would instantly be the bad guy. DRM? nope, no thanks!

selling your game? " Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. "

the participating retailers are the companies that do it now. wanna give your game away to a bud? well you can only do it once. once it's theirs the one trade away starts anew.

7. i agree the region thing is harsh but, why waste more money on something that isn't getting you any money? those millions? more like thousands. not everyone in those countries is playing on the xbox. and as for the states? that 2015 date is not final

[Casshern1337]

Grasping at straws.

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