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mahi poi no ka oi
True but they don't mark processors with pentium it it's a core 2 duo or something. I'm gonna have to say that it's still a no as Pentium is a name generally used on outdated processors just like celeron.
Any "Pentium Dual Core" is a Core 2 Duo.
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mahi poi no ka oi
True but they don't mark processors with pentium it it's a core 2 duo or something. I'm gonna have to say that it's still a no as Pentium is a name generally used on outdated processors just like celeron.
They still make new versions of Pentiums. They are the low end offerings for their flagship products. They phased out celeron I think.
     
mahi poi no ka oi
Nvidia GTX295 GPU
6 GB of RAM
Intel Core i7 processor extreme edition
some sound card (didn't really care about it)
an internet card from an external vendor
and 1TB of hard drive space.
The processor's totally overkill for modern gaming.

mahi poi no ka oi
Also I do not believe that any laptop can hold a graphics card greater than 9600 or so
http://www.google.com/products?q=9800m&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf
Plenty right there with the 9800M.

Also, here's a GTX260M.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220639
For only $1,250...

mahi poi no ka oi
And BTW just the core i7 extreme would cost more than $800 unless you have a REALLY good vendor.
That's where most of your wasted money happened.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts/Far-Cry-2-1.0.1,1401.html
Notice that while the Core i7 extreme (an $800+ part) scores 113 FPS...
The Core 2 Quad Q9550 (a $256 part) scores 95 FPS...

While the core i7 may be a lot faster than less expensive and older processors, games don't need it.

It's called "bottlenecking", and for modern games, the bottleneck is the video card.
 
     
 
Raywazza
Here is a good gaming computer, for less than $600. you will just need to already own a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Case $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095
Power Supply $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182160
CPU $102.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
Motherboard $69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228
RAM $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262
Video Card $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161297
Hard Drive $47.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Operating System $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

Total $589.93
My com already holds over 500GB of data. That hard drive is not gonna cut it. That coupled with the fact that it's not a solid state will automatically make me say no to it. The video card is adequate for now, but will probably be out of date within the next few months. The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting. The lack of a good amount of PCI-e slots is a concern for me should I decide to further upgrade. The case and power supply are acceptable though and the fact that shipping is free in mainland US is a plus. However I live in the middle of the pacific and thus would have to pay the shipping charges and additionally there is no warranty included in the price. If I were to purchase a warranty for the parts, that would increase the price to over your predetermined $600 and the lack of technical support would discourage newbies from buying it. Should the com break down for whatever reason and they have no access to any technical support and no warranty, they would have to shell out another couple hundred to get someone to check it out for them. In the end, putting together a com from scratch and ordering a premade com really has no difference when it comes to price. It's just that you don't see the additional prices being added on should you order a premade one.
     
@Rydian: Impressive. So they finally made a GTX series GPU for netbooks eh? Ah well. I'm hoping that the GTX260M doesn't have the same limitations as the PCI version of the GeForce 8100 had. As for the processor, I admit that none of the games that I had tried out so far needed that much power (or anywhere near it). However it does ensure that my CPU won't overclock as much as it would should I have ordered the less expensive ones (I've heard that intel processors have a bad habit of breaking down upon overclocking). I also played it safe with the power supply and ordered the best one at the time and got an extra 500GB or hard disk space (thank god). In essence, despite the cost, I think it was pretty worth it since my com hasn't come anywhere near breaking down yet. And that considering that I spend around 12-13 hours a day on my com (weekends anyway).
 
     
 
mahi poi no ka oi
The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting.
Nope!
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589&p=10
The "speed" of ram is actually it's bandwidth, and you can see from those charts that memory bandwidth doesn't have nearly as big of an effect on games as the companies selling it to you would like you to think.
     
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting.
Nope!
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589&p=10
The "speed" of ram is actually it's bandwidth, and you can see from those charts that memory bandwidth doesn't have nearly as big of an effect on games as the companies selling it to you would like you to think.
Assuming that graph is accurate, it is interesting as even with a decent 6GB DDR3 RAM I get lag on the max settings of some of the games I play. True it may not be devastating lag, but enough to make it skip a few times when a lot of stuff happens. I had just assumed that anything less would just increase that amount of lag to the point of being an actual nuisance.
 
     
 
mahi poi no ka oi
So they finally made a GTX series GPU for netbooks eh?
They've had them for a bit... but it seems the ATI mobile cards are better (when you compare power+heat as well) so they're the more common cards in laptops.

mahi poi no ka oi
I also played it safe with the power supply and ordered the best one at the time
Unfortunately, another mistake.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413&p=3
If you get a PSU rated for much more than your system actually pulls, you're wasting power.
     
Raywazza
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Raywazza
Are you a troll? What did waste your money on? A very good gaming computer with just the tower and contents inside that can be bought for $700-800. I bought my laptop for less than $1500 and it out performs most of my friends towers at gaming.
Nvidia GTX295 GPU, 6 GB of RAM, Intel Core i7 processor extreme edition, some sound card (didn't really care about it), an internet card from an external vendor, and 1TB of hard drive space. Also I do not believe that any laptop can hold a graphics card greater than 9600 or so and I can easily expand my RAM should it be necessary (which ATM it is not). And BTW just the core i7 extreme would cost more than $800 unless you have a REALLY good vendor.
Be educated, better graphics than what you have. In a laptop.
Are you sure that's accurate? I'm currently running a Radeon HD 4870 x2 and yet according to a friend, GTX295 is better.
 
     
 
mahi poi no ka oi
Raywazza
Here is a good gaming computer, for less than $600. you will just need to already own a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Case $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095
Power Supply $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182160
CPU $102.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
Motherboard $69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228
RAM $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262
Video Card $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161297
Hard Drive $47.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Operating System $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

Total $589.93
My com already holds over 500GB of data. That hard drive is not gonna cut it. That coupled with the fact that it's not a solid state will automatically make me say no to it. The video card is adequate for now, but will probably be out of date within the next few months. The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting. The lack of a good amount of PCI-e slots is a concern for me should I decide to further upgrade. The case and power supply are acceptable though and the fact that shipping is free in mainland US is a plus. However I live in the middle of the pacific and thus would have to pay the shipping charges and additionally there is no warranty included in the price. If I were to purchase a warranty for the parts, that would increase the price to over your predetermined $600 and the lack of technical support would discourage newbies from buying it. Should the com break down for whatever reason and they have no access to any technical support and no warranty, they would have to shell out another couple hundred to get someone to check it out for them. In the end, putting together a com from scratch and ordering a premade com really has no difference when it comes to price. It's just that you don't see the additional prices being added on should you order a premade one.
Stop pirating porn and music? This is not a thread about you but for "the shady dealer" This was for him not you.
     
mahi poi no ka oi
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting.
Nope!
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589&p=10
The "speed" of ram is actually it's bandwidth, and you can see from those charts that memory bandwidth doesn't have nearly as big of an effect on games as the companies selling it to you would like you to think.
Assuming that graph is accurate, it is interesting as even with a decent 6GB DDR3 RAM I get lag on the max settings of some of the games I play. True it may not be devastating lag, but enough to make it skip a few times when a lot of stuff happens. I had just assumed that anything less would just increase that amount of lag to the point of being an actual nuisance.
You know, a single program under a home 32-bit version of windows cannot use more than 2 gigs of ram (3 gigs if an optional command-line switch is turned on).
http://site-not-allowed/4Pv2R

So in order to run on as many systems as possible, most games purposely stay below 2 gigs of memory usage (unless you're specifically running their 64-bit executable). That may be something to look into, if they have a 64-bit version.
 
     
 
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting.
Nope!
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589&p=10
The "speed" of ram is actually it's bandwidth, and you can see from those charts that memory bandwidth doesn't have nearly as big of an effect on games as the companies selling it to you would like you to think.
Assuming that graph is accurate, it is interesting as even with a decent 6GB DDR3 RAM I get lag on the max settings of some of the games I play. True it may not be devastating lag, but enough to make it skip a few times when a lot of stuff happens. I had just assumed that anything less would just increase that amount of lag to the point of being an actual nuisance.
You know, a single program under a home 32-bit version of windows cannot use more than 2 gigs of ram (3 gigs if an optional command-line switch is turned on).
http://site-not-allowed/4Pv2R

So in order to run on as many systems as possible, most games purposely stay below 2 gigs of memory usage (unless you're specifically running their 64-bit executable). That may be something to look into, if they have a 64-bit version.
32bit Apps LMA on x64 use up to 4GB.
     
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Raywazza
mahi poi no ka oi
Raywazza
Here is a good gaming computer, for less than $600. you will just need to already own a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Case $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095
Power Supply $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182160
CPU $102.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680
Motherboard $69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228
RAM $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262
Video Card $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161297
Hard Drive $47.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
Operating System $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

Total $589.93
My com already holds over 500GB of data. That hard drive is not gonna cut it. That coupled with the fact that it's not a solid state will automatically make me say no to it. The video card is adequate for now, but will probably be out of date within the next few months. The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting. The lack of a good amount of PCI-e slots is a concern for me should I decide to further upgrade. The case and power supply are acceptable though and the fact that shipping is free in mainland US is a plus. However I live in the middle of the pacific and thus would have to pay the shipping charges and additionally there is no warranty included in the price. If I were to purchase a warranty for the parts, that would increase the price to over your predetermined $600 and the lack of technical support would discourage newbies from buying it. Should the com break down for whatever reason and they have no access to any technical support and no warranty, they would have to shell out another couple hundred to get someone to check it out for them. In the end, putting together a com from scratch and ordering a premade com really has no difference when it comes to price. It's just that you don't see the additional prices being added on should you order a premade one.
Stop pirating porn and music? This is not a thread about you but for "the shady dealer" This was for him not you.
If that was for him, why did you post all those links to random parts? If he doesn't know what specs he would need, what makes you think he'll be able to put his own com together? Additionally what makes you think I pirated anything? Just because I have a crapload of stuff on my com doesn't mean that it's all pirated. A lot of the things on my com are CD rips (of which I bought), games, downloads (Xfire, Steam, DirectX, AVG, etc.), programs, discounted from my school's store (photoshop, flash, premiere, fruity loops), and most of the rest are all saved files mainly from FL and premiere. Oh and most of the songs I get are from newgrounds made by the artists there and are therefore not illegal.
 
     
 
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
So they finally made a GTX series GPU for netbooks eh?
They've had them for a bit... but it seems the ATI mobile cards are better (when you compare power+heat as well) so they're the more common cards in laptops.

mahi poi no ka oi
I also played it safe with the power supply and ordered the best one at the time
Unfortunately, another mistake.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413&p=3
If you get a PSU rated for much more than your system actually pulls, you're wasting power.
Most likely, but at the time of purchase I was basing my purchases around the mistakes of others (lack of power being the most common issue I had seen next to overclocked processors). Back then I was relatively new to hardware and its requirements but still I regret nothing razz
     
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The Last Rydian
mahi poi no ka oi
The RAM given would cause lag for some of the games that I play unless I would decrease the settings to a low setting.
Nope!
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589&p=10
The "speed" of ram is actually it's bandwidth, and you can see from those charts that memory bandwidth doesn't have nearly as big of an effect on games as the companies selling it to you would like you to think.
Assuming that graph is accurate, it is interesting as even with a decent 6GB DDR3 RAM I get lag on the max settings of some of the games I play. True it may not be devastating lag, but enough to make it skip a few times when a lot of stuff happens. I had just assumed that anything less would just increase that amount of lag to the point of being an actual nuisance.
You know, a single program under a home 32-bit version of windows cannot use more than 2 gigs of ram (3 gigs if an optional command-line switch is turned on).
http://site-not-allowed/4Pv2R

So in order to run on as many systems as possible, most games purposely stay below 2 gigs of memory usage (unless you're specifically running their 64-bit executable). That may be something to look into, if they have a 64-bit version.
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 razz
 
     
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