Why The Aquaman Hate?

Do you like or dislike Aquaman?

+ Like	88.6%	[ 31 ]
- Dislike	11.4%	[ 4 ]
Total Votes:			[ 35 ]

[The Iron Magus]

Well, people would probably think the same about Batman, if we hadn't had any TV shows or movies about him since the Adam West show. So I guess to change people's mind, we need a badass Aquaman movie.

[The Spectrum]

The Iron Magus

Well, people would probably think the same about Batman, if we hadn't had any TV shows or movies about him since the Adam West show. So I guess to change people's mind, we need a badass Aquaman movie.

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

[Miss-dark8607]

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Miss-dark8607

Pretty much what everyone else said. Kind of odd how popular culture can make or break a character. Damn I hope Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records.

Why did you even post?
"What everyone else said".
And then you went off topic.

Umm no I'm saying that pop culture affects a character. IE Superman being overpower or weak-sauce given just like Aquaman he's in the same boat when it comes to mass misconception and just a general mishandling from DC.

[The Spectrum]

Miss-dark8607

The Spectrum

Miss-dark8607

Pretty much what everyone else said. Kind of odd how popular culture can make or break a character. Damn I hope Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records.

Why did you even post?
"What everyone else said".
And then you went off topic.

Umm no I'm saying that pop culture affects a character. IE Superman being overpower or weak-sauce given just like Aquaman he's in the same boat when it comes to mass misconception and just a general mishandling from DC.

Umm no.
Go look at your first post.
"Pretty much what everyone else said." You did not expand further upon the topic.
And then you just said how it was kind of odd how popular culture can make or a break a character.
You weren't answering my question by saying "Pop culture affects a character."
And even then, that makes no sense to the question.
IE No.
Your Superman comment was completely unrelated.
You were "Hoping Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records."
Lol? Pop culture affects how the creators decided to make Superman?
Go check your facts, kid.
The creators decided how strong he would be.
Superman is in the same boat of mass misconception? Not really.
There is no misconception going on here at all.
DC has mishandled what? Power levels?

[Captain Talavar]

The Spectrum

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Actually, the 60s TV show was darker than what was happening in a lot of the comics at the time.



While it may be debatable that the 60s show toned down some things, it's not debatable that it's pretty much the most accurate comic book adaptation ever.

[The Spectrum]

Captain Talavar

The Spectrum

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Actually, the 60s TV show was darker than what was happening in a lot of the comics at the time.



While it may be debatable that the 60s show toned down some things, it's not debatable that it's pretty much the most accurate comic book adaptation ever.

Did you really just say that?
I'm talking about the movie, not the comics at the time.
The show was not very dark.
LOL. The most accurate comic book adaption of Batman?
Did you really just say that?

[Captain Talavar]

The Spectrum

Captain Talavar

The Spectrum

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Actually, the 60s TV show was darker than what was happening in a lot of the comics at the time.



While it may be debatable that the 60s show toned down some things, it's not debatable that it's pretty much the most accurate comic book adaptation ever.

Did you really just say that?
I'm talking about the movie, not the comics at the time.
The show was not very dark.
LOL. The most accurate comic book adaption of Batman?
Did you really just say that?

Yeah. The show wasn't very dark, no, but it was arguably closer to reality than many of the comics at the time, thanks to budget constraints I'm sure. But yes, that show is the most accurate adaptation of Batman in live-action. In animation, well, that one is obvious to any serious Batman fan. But in terms of live-action? Nothing's closer to the comics than that TV series. It's just a matter of which comics it's close to. The Batman comics at the time were just as goofy and campy as the TV show, and while the show couldn't be as outlandish as some of the comics, it captured the comics more perfectly than any other live-action adaptation.

Batman comics didn't start with Frank Miller you know. It wasn't always a "dark" and "serious" series.

[The Spectrum]

Captain Talavar

The Spectrum

Captain Talavar

The Spectrum

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Actually, the 60s TV show was darker than what was happening in a lot of the comics at the time.



While it may be debatable that the 60s show toned down some things, it's not debatable that it's pretty much the most accurate comic book adaptation ever.

Did you really just say that?
I'm talking about the movie, not the comics at the time.
The show was not very dark.
LOL. The most accurate comic book adaption of Batman?
Did you really just say that?

Yeah. The show wasn't very dark, no, but it was arguably closer to reality than many of the comics at the time, thanks to budget constraints I'm sure. But yes, that show is the most accurate adaptation of Batman in live-action. In animation, well, that one is obvious to any serious Batman fan. But in terms of live-action? Nothing's closer to the comics than that TV series. It's just a matter of which comics it's close to. The Batman comics at the time were just as goofy and campy as the TV show, and while the show couldn't be as outlandish as some of the comics, it captured the comics more perfectly than any other live-action adaptation.

Batman comics didn't start with Frank Miller you know. It wasn't always a "dark" and "serious" series.

Hmmmm.... No.
The show wasn't close to comics.
What about all the recent Batman movies? Even the slightly older ones?
The campy one failed.
The batman comics did not involve Batman saying "Good golly Robin, l think I know who the villain is! Let's make a plan!"

And you're saying that all Batman comics were like the campy show until Frank Miller?
Wow. That's basically what you just said in your last line.
It wasn't always "dark and serious" but it wasn't always "Campy and jolly" either.

[Bani Slasher]

People just be jealous of Aquaman being with such a fine woman as Mera.

Haters gonna hate.

[Bani Slasher]

The Spectrum

Miss-dark8607

The Spectrum

Miss-dark8607

Pretty much what everyone else said. Kind of odd how popular culture can make or break a character. Damn I hope Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records.

Why did you even post?
"What everyone else said".
And then you went off topic.

Umm no I'm saying that pop culture affects a character. IE Superman being overpower or weak-sauce given just like Aquaman he's in the same boat when it comes to mass misconception and just a general mishandling from DC.

Umm no.
Go look at your first post.
"Pretty much what everyone else said." You did not expand further upon the topic.
And then you just said how it was kind of odd how popular culture can make or a break a character.
You weren't answering my question by saying "Pop culture affects a character."
And even then, that makes no sense to the question.
IE No.
Your Superman comment was completely unrelated.
You were "Hoping Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records."
Lol? Pop culture affects how the creators decided to make Superman?
Go check your facts, kid.
The creators decided how strong he would be.
Superman is in the same boat of mass misconception? Not really.
There is no misconception going on here at all.
DC has mishandled what? Power levels?

Dood, calm down. This isn't some super serious intellectual debate. This is a forum about comic books on a website with dress-up dolls. Every post doesn't have to add anything to the discussion and it really isn't necessary to call it out when someone fails to do that. If you truly feel someone is just posting random spam or whatever other craziness is going on in your head, hit the report button and be on your way.

[The Iron Magus]

The Spectrum

The Iron Magus

Well, people would probably think the same about Batman, if we hadn't had any TV shows or movies about him since the Adam West show. So I guess to change people's mind, we need a badass Aquaman movie.

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Well, I can certainly speculate about why people might dislike you. neutral

I was under the impression that this was a discussion, rather than an interrogation. I can see I was mistaken.

[Captain Talavar]

The Spectrum

Hmmmm.... No.

Yes, actually.

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The show wasn't close to comics.

In the costume department alone it was the closest attempt to replicating the comic imagery. They even used the sound effects for god's sake. If you don't think the 60s Batman show was close to the Batman comics, you clearly aren't enough of a Batman fan to know that there were a ton of Batman comics just like that.

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What about all the recent Batman movies? Even the slightly older ones?

Not as close to the comics as the 60s show. Granted, at that time the comics had gotten darker. But at the time the 60s show aired? It was almost perfectly accurate.

Quote:

The campy one failed.

The TV series was a major hit and is still a cultural milestone. Ask any stranger on the street to sing or hum "the Batman theme" ambiguously, and chances are they'll bring out the "Nananananananana BATMAN!" Heck, that show is part of the reason Batman's villains are so well known. I don't know how the movie fared, but without that show, Batman may not be the media juggernaut it is today.

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The batman comics did not involve Batman saying "Good golly Robin, l think I know who the villain is! Let's make a plan!"

You haven't read many old Batman comics have you?

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And you're saying that all Batman comics were like the campy show until Frank Miller?
Wow. That's basically what you just said in your last line.

Learn to read. I said that Batman comics didn't start with Frank Miller and that it wasn't always a "dark" and "serious" series. Of course they weren't all like the TV show until Frank Miller. Writers like Steve Englehart and Denny O'Neil got that ball rolling before Miller showed up. And the very early comics from Bob Kane and Bill Finger were darker. But it didn't take long for things to get light-hearted and campy. Robin made his first appearance in Detective Comics #38. Batman first appeared in #27. Do the math.

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It wasn't always "dark and serious" but it wasn't always "Campy and jolly" either.

Of course not. But as you just demonstrated a few sentences ago, you seem to think it was never campy like the TV show at all. And that's just plain bullshit.

[The Spectrum]

Bani Slasher

The Spectrum

Miss-dark8607

The Spectrum

Miss-dark8607

Pretty much what everyone else said. Kind of odd how popular culture can make or break a character. Damn I hope Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records.

Why did you even post?
"What everyone else said".
And then you went off topic.

Umm no I'm saying that pop culture affects a character. IE Superman being overpower or weak-sauce given just like Aquaman he's in the same boat when it comes to mass misconception and just a general mishandling from DC.

Umm no.
Go look at your first post.
"Pretty much what everyone else said." You did not expand further upon the topic.
And then you just said how it was kind of odd how popular culture can make or a break a character.
You weren't answering my question by saying "Pop culture affects a character."
And even then, that makes no sense to the question.
IE No.
Your Superman comment was completely unrelated.
You were "Hoping Man of Steel breaks all kinds of records."
Lol? Pop culture affects how the creators decided to make Superman?
Go check your facts, kid.
The creators decided how strong he would be.
Superman is in the same boat of mass misconception? Not really.
There is no misconception going on here at all.
DC has mishandled what? Power levels?

Dood, calm down. This isn't some super serious intellectual debate. This is a forum about comic books on a website with dress-up dolls. Every post doesn't have to add anything to the discussion and it really isn't necessary to call it out when someone fails to do that. If you truly feel someone is just posting random spam or whatever other craziness is going on in your head, hit the report button and be on your way.

Dood, stop replying.
I was and still am calm.
Nor have I ever regarded it as an intellectual debate.
You made a stupid post and tried to debate that fact.
You're supposed to add to the discussion, even in a tiny way.
There is no point in saying "WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID".
Instead of me going through the trouble of reporting, I can just tell you and stop you from doing it again.
Now that your argument is invalidated you say "It's just a forum with dress up dolls, don't take it seriously".
The argument itself is not the website.
It's still an argument between two people, it doesn't matter where or on what.
Every post is supposed to add to the discussion.
If you don't want to, go to chatterbox.

[The Spectrum]

The Iron Magus

The Spectrum

The Iron Magus

Well, people would probably think the same about Batman, if we hadn't had any TV shows or movies about him since the Adam West show. So I guess to change people's mind, we need a badass Aquaman movie.

Well, no.
Batman was actually darker than that.
The campy Batman TV series was one of my adaptations. It was the goofy kid-friendly version.
TV shows and movies aren't what changed the idea of him.
Comics are what he started in, and comics are what he's still in.
In comics he wasn't as shown in that 1966 movie.
An Aquaman movie wouldn't flourish. He doesn't have that great of a storyline to his deep sea adventures for a movie. Well, I guess he actually does.
Your comment did not apply to my original post.
You answered the question which had not been proposed: "How do we make people think Aquaman is awesome?" Is a question you answered.
I asked why people dislike him.
Aquaman wasn't involved in Batman: The Movie (1966).
No one would think the same about Batman because of that old TV show, by the way.

Well, I can certainly speculate about why people might dislike you. neutral

I was under the impression that this was a discussion, rather than an interrogation. I can see I was mistaken.

LOL.
An interrogation? No, not even in the slightest bit.
I replied to your post, which lacked some information.
I can say I see why people might dislike you[/] as well. neutral
You weren't mistaken.
If you're going to reply to a topic with a question, try having proper information.

[The Spectrum]

Captain Talavar

The Spectrum

Hmmmm.... No.

Yes, actually.

Quote:

The show wasn't close to comics.

In the costume department alone it was the closest attempt to replicating the comic imagery. They even used the sound effects for god's sake. If you don't think the 60s Batman show was close to the Batman comics, you clearly aren't enough of a Batman fan to know that there were a ton of Batman comics just like that.

Quote:

What about all the recent Batman movies? Even the slightly older ones?

Not as close to the comics as the 60s show. Granted, at that time the comics had gotten darker. But at the time the 60s show aired? It was almost perfectly accurate.

Quote:

The campy one failed.

The TV series was a major hit and is still a cultural milestone. Ask any stranger on the street to sing or hum "the Batman theme" ambiguously, and chances are they'll bring out the "Nananananananana BATMAN!" Heck, that show is part of the reason Batman's villains are so well known. I don't know how the movie fared, but without that show, Batman may not be the media juggernaut it is today.

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The batman comics did not involve Batman saying "Good golly Robin, l think I know who the villain is! Let's make a plan!"

You haven't read many old Batman comics have you?

Quote:

And you're saying that all Batman comics were like the campy show until Frank Miller?
Wow. That's basically what you just said in your last line.

Learn to read. I said that Batman comics didn't start with Frank Miller and that it wasn't always a "dark" and "serious" series. Of course they weren't all like the TV show until Frank Miller. Writers like Steve Englehart and Denny O'Neil got that ball rolling before Miller showed up. And the very early comics from Bob Kane and Bill Finger were darker. But it didn't take long for things to get light-hearted and campy. Robin made his first appearance in Detective Comics #38. Batman first appeared in #27. Do the math.

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It wasn't always "dark and serious" but it wasn't always "Campy and jolly" either.

Of course not. But as you just demonstrated a few sentences ago, you seem to think it was never campy like the TV show at all. And that's just plain bullshit.

You certainly put a lot of effort into this.
Instead of individually quoting every line, I'll just respond in order.
No, actually.
So you say it was the closest to comics because of the costume?
You clearly aren't a Batman fan.
I said the campy one failed as in failing to portray Batman properly.
Having a catchy theme doesn't change that.
Most people who sing the theme song have never seen the show.
I don't think that's why the villains are known at all.
Obviously it added a little bit to that, since it's a Batman show.
Batman would most likely be "the media juggernaut it is today."
But that's my word against yours.
Are you incapable of reading?
Obviously Robin said those things, I said "BATMAN SAYING . . ."
I've read some old comics, actually. Have you?
LOL, now it's I who must learn to read. I read your comment well, I paraphrased it and simplified it. smile
And you yourself agreed that Batman comics have been dark for a long time, even since the beginning.
They introduced Robin to make Batman a bit lighter and not as dark and scary. This was not the same as having Batman jump around and saying "Good golly Robin, l think I know who the villain is! Let's make a plan!"
No, now you need to read- AGAIN.
You said I need to learn to read for changing what you said but keeping the same meaning.
That's what you are doing now.
Obviously at some point in comics it might have been a bit lighter, but not mainly.
Give me a Batman comic where it's pretty much the same as the campy show?
Now get off the forum. This thread is about Aquaman, not Batman.